Ingle Pringles Gym - ped users and mostly bums

[Switch hitter]

Jason Quigley, Willy Hutchinson, Lee Reeves were top amateurs picked up by Ingles. They all regressed and got beat very quickly with them.

Clearly you are not a fan of the gym.

Due to personal experience? Or do you have ulterior motives?

Where would you send your son?

None of that. Just simply don't rate Dom Ingle as a trainer much, think he's overrated. Anyone with eyes can see what's happening, they are taking L after L, and fighters keep leaving. It's a fundamentally flawed style. Papachenko!

how many champions have they produced again ?

[a force]

Hutchinson & Galahad we’re both dominating & boxing really well when they got clipped. I don’t think there’s anything you can criticise the Ingles for with Williams & Skeete. Both boxed really well under them.

Davies had a shocker with Dom in his corner I agree but is Davies all that anyway? He pushed Ritson fairly close who’s been shown to be not much better than British level, I’m not sure beating this version of Hank Lundy in impressive fashion means all that. If Davies picks up some good wins then yes that will look bad on Dom but that’s to be seen.

[skanksta]

I'd be surprised if the Ingle Gym is ever as good as it was without the late, great Brendan for sure.
A guy like that is a once-in-a-lifetime personality, a real force of nature. Almost no legendary gyms can constantly repeat their 'golden periods'.

But, that said, it's equally daft the way you're running it down, saying it's sh1t and "ruining fighters"
That's obviously just bitterness, formed by some sort of personal spite.

[margaret thatcher]

the ingle gym bois are sure weirdos and doxers online, and there are some bad looks for sure regards to them pringles, but the gym has an amazing track record for success, including raising talents from scratch. all gyms, trainers., will go through ups and downs

[coneye]

It takes years to develop a guy from novice ameteur to a top pro , so there not going to develop a fighter every year ,, It could be argued that they have quite often took an average fighter , to be a good fighter , who loses when he meets a real good fighter , Levels and all that ,, but regardless , its a gym i would send my son too i have no doubt they would bring the best out of him not everyone can train absolute champs but they have had more than there share ,,

I don't know the ingles , they will have a world champ , a european champ . and probably a british champ , but still take in a couple of snotty nosed 12 year olds , and train them , for that they will do me ,,, wonder how many 12 year old beginners Mr Ben the tactics Davidson has got ,,, wonder if Shane mcgigan trains novice kids ,,,, Ok most of the succes was because of the late Bredon , but Dom certainly knows his stuff , like i said i would'nt hesitate to send my boys there

[emallini]

Same old crap. Keyboard warriors who sit quietly in the corner in real life calling boxers bums.

[polecateddy]

I don’t follow boxing quite as religiously as I did in those Naz heydays. Is the gym still run as it was in Brendan’s days, with lots of fighters with little amateur experience being converted into quite handy and unorthodox pros?

[Coco]

It takes years to develop a guy from novice ameteur to a top pro , so there not going to develop a fighter every year ,, It could be argued that they have quite often took an average fighter , to be a good fighter , who loses when he meets a real good fighter , Levels and all that ,, but regardless , its a gym i would send my son too i have no doubt they would bring the best out of him not everyone can train absolute champs but they have had more than there share ,,

I don't know the ingles , they will have a world champ , a european champ . and probably a british champ , but still take in a couple of snotty nosed 12 year olds , and train them , for that they will do me ,,, wonder how many 12 year old beginners Mr Ben the tactics Davidson has got ,,, wonder if Shane mcgigan trains novice kids ,,,, Ok most of the succes was because of the late Bredon , but Dom certainly knows his stuff , like i said i would'nt hesitate to send my boys there

Bout right

[a force]

On the drugs thing as well. He’s had three positive tests by my reckoning.

One was Ngabu for coke which I think we can instantly dismiss as a performance enhancing drug Dom gave him.

The other two are Saunders who got caught because he was under Vada testing for the first time. The substance wasn’t a prohibited substance in the UK. That doesn’t make it right but also it was something he’d taken throughout his career to help shift weight. Not something that he started taking at the Ingle gym.

Which leaves you with Galahad which is bad there’s no doubt about that. Anybody who believes the spiked story needs their head checking. I’d like to think it was a one off as he got short notice for a fight on channel 5 but whether it was or not it’s not a good look.

I just find it bizarre that Dom gets all the questions when he’s trained probably hundreds of fighters & had so few positives but someone like Peter Fury who’s barely trained anyone takes Tyson & Hughie abroad for training camp in a remote gym & they both pop for nandrolone. But barely anyone ever mentions it. He’s the most suspicious trainer in the country for me.

[Pugilist-specialist]

It takes years to develop a guy from novice ameteur to a top pro , so there not going to develop a fighter every year ,, It could be argued that they have quite often took an average fighter , to be a good fighter , who loses when he meets a real good fighter , Levels and all that ,, but regardless , its a gym i would send my son too i have no doubt they would bring the best out of him not everyone can train absolute champs but they have had more than there share ,,

I don't know the ingles , they will have a world champ , a european champ . and probably a british champ , but still take in a couple of snotty nosed 12 year olds , and train them , for that they will do me ,,, wonder how many 12 year old beginners Mr Ben the tactics Davidson has got ,,, wonder if Shane mcgigan trains novice kids ,,,, Ok most of the succes was because of the late Bredon , but Dom certainly knows his stuff , like i said i would'nt hesitate to send my boys there

Not just kids, but men with learning difficulties would train at the same time and even get up in the ring with fighters like Naz and nobody would lay a glove on them. Some of the main success stories from the gym have never competed at boxing.

[Pugilist-specialist]

On the drugs thing as well. He’s had three positive tests by my reckoning.

One was Ngabu for coke which I think we can instantly dismiss as a performance enhancing drug Dom gave him.

The other two are Saunders who got caught because he was under Vada testing for the first time. The substance wasn’t a prohibited substance in the UK. That doesn’t make it right but also it was something he’d taken throughout his career to help shift weight. Not something that he started taking at the Ingle gym.

Which leaves you with Galahad which is bad there’s no doubt about that. Anybody who believes the spiked story needs their head checking. I’d like to think it was a one off as he got short notice for a fight on channel 5 but whether it was or not it’s not a good look.

I just find it bizarre that Dom gets all the questions when he’s trained probably hundreds of fighters & had so few positives but someone like Peter Fury who’s barely trained anyone takes Tyson & Hughie abroad for training camp in a remote gym & they both pop for nandrolone. But barely anyone ever mentions it. He’s the most suspicious trainer in the country for me.

Ngabu wasn't banned for his averse reading.
There are 2 gyms just in Sheffield where fighters have had longer UKAD bans than the combined total of all the hundreds of Ingle fighters.

[Pugilist-specialist]

It's the big benefit of developing your own.

Other trainers are waiting for the next Olympics and hoping to pick up some cast offs.

Jason Quigley, Willy Hutchinson, Lee Reeves were top amateurs picked up by Ingles. They all regressed and got beat very quickly with them.

Clearly you are not a fan of the gym.

Due to personal experience? Or do you have ulterior motives?

Where would you send your son?

He's been trolling for years and had numerous bans. He started the thread.

[Frostieballs]

Two of the key criteria for judging the success of a boxing gym:-

1. The performance of its fighters
2. The benefits it offers to society

I cannot think of a gym that can match the pedigree of the Wincobank on either count for a sustained period of time.

[583940]

On the drugs thing as well. He’s had three positive tests by my reckoning.

There was Liam Cameron as well He got banned for life

& You only have to look at Dom to see he knows about steroids.

Think there may* have been more. Probably some forgettable low level names

Quote from Tony Bellew
'' I think this will be the 5/6th fail from that stable! I don’t know of any other gym In the country providing so many failed tests!'' '' How many times is this gonna happen with this coach in question''

[mickey1975]

On the drugs thing as well. He’s had three positive tests by my reckoning.

There was Liam Cameron as well He got banned for life

& You only have to look at Dom to see he knows about steroids.

Think there may* have been more. Probably some forgettable low level names

Quote from Tony Bellew
'' I think this will be the 5/6th fail from that stable! I don’t know of any other gym In the country providing so many failed tests!'' '' How many times is this gonna happen with this coach in question''

Cameron didn't get banned for life nor use PEDs and isn't an Ingle fighter....

[583940]

On the drugs thing as well. He’s had three positive tests by my reckoning.

There was Liam Cameron as well He got banned for life

& You only have to look at Dom to see he knows about steroids.

Think there may* have been more. Probably some forgettable low level names

Quote from Tony Bellew
'' I think this will be the 5/6th fail from that stable! I don’t know of any other gym In the country providing so many failed tests!'' '' How many times is this gonna happen with this coach in question''

Cameron didn't get banned for life nor use PEDs and isn't an Ingle fighter....

Its a boring subject . Can't be bothered going back researching dates, details and things.but he was definitely an Ingle fighter for a long time. So hes been in the the gym nicknamed 'The Lab' and the bodybuilder stedhed trainer.


Its all a bit dodgy to me. If another ingle fighter pops dirty I don't think anyone can keep making excuses. It's a shame Kid wasnt back on the peds for the Martinez fight. He needed them!

The big problem is the atrocious form of the gym. Its getting to the stage you see whos in the corner and you just expect a loss

[handsofstone]

Cameron got banned for either 2 or 4 years for coke which is a disgrace and shows where bbbc loyalties lie, they know juicing is rampant so don't want to set the bar high which is why bans are minimal for Peds and severe for recreational

[a force]

On the drugs thing as well. He’s had three positive tests by my reckoning.

There was Liam Cameron as well He got banned for life

& You only have to look at Dom to see he knows about steroids.

Think there may* have been more. Probably some forgettable low level names

Quote from Tony Bellew
'' I think this will be the 5/6th fail from that stable! I don’t know of any other gym In the country providing so many failed tests!'' '' How many times is this gonna happen with this coach in question''

Liam Cameron wasn’t anything to do with the Ingle gym & it was for coke.

Tony Bellew lied. There’s been two failed PED’s tests & one of them was for a substance that is allowed in the UK which Billy had been taking for years, long before he started training with the Ingles.

Tony & Dom had a row at the Ajisafe fight & Tony can’t let it go. It’s about time he grew up to be honest. He does the same with Shane McGuigan. They don’t get on so he keeps sniping at him. It’s pathetic for a supposed pundit

[polecateddy]

Dom Ingle is passionate about bodybuilding, and presumably has a decent level of knowledge in relation to testosterone, steroids and growth hormones. Even if he doesn’t use them a great deal of informative YouTube fitness influencers often will provide information on PEDs as well as fitness training - More Plates, More Dates etc. To a certain degree this sort of stuff is general knowledge in the bodybuilding community. If he does share this information with his boxers presumably a whistleblower will come forward at some point and we’ll get a better idea of what happens in his gym. It would be interesting to know if Dom is on Testosterone Replacement Therapy now as he’s a bit older. Usually quite indicative of past steroid abuse as the body can no longer produce normal levels of testosterone naturally anymore.

[Pugilist-specialist]

There was Liam Cameron as well He got banned for life

& You only have to look at Dom to see he knows about steroids.

Think there may* have been more. Probably some forgettable low level names

Quote from Tony Bellew
'' I think this will be the 5/6th fail from that stable! I don’t know of any other gym In the country providing so many failed tests!'' '' How many times is this gonna happen with this coach in question''

Cameron didn't get banned for life nor use PEDs and isn't an Ingle fighter....

Its a boring subject . Can't be bothered going back researching dates, details and things.but he was definitely an Ingle fighter for a long time.

He wasn't. He was with another trainer for virtually all of his career.

[Wee Tommy]

I think cos Doms in excellent nick for his age folk automatically assume he’s a steroid head. I think it’s likely he uses at least testosterone but that’s almost normal nowadays for folk who train hard in to their 40s

The evidence against his fighters however is much less conclusive. He trains loads and not many have been popped. Although it’s pretty easy to avoid capture in boxing these days.

I know a pro who goes to the ingle gym for sparring and says it’s different level training than most of the gyms he has been to. The footwork drills especially. He’s very impressed by the place. Him and Willy were at the same club growing up, same club I used to go to as a teenager.

[polecateddy]

I think cos Doms in excellent nick for his age folk automatically assume he’s a steroid head. I think it’s likely he uses at least testosterone but that’s almost normal nowadays for folk who train hard in to their 40s

The evidence against his fighters however is much less conclusive. He trains loads and not many have been popped. Although it’s pretty easy to avoid capture in boxing these days.

I know a pro who goes to the ingle gym for sparring and says it’s different level training than most of the gyms he has been to. The footwork drills especially. He’s very impressed by the place. Him and Willy were at the same club growing up, same club I used to go to as a teenager.

Good nick? He’s up to his neck in bodybuilding culture! It’s nonsense that taking testosterone replacement therapy is normal for people who train in the UK in their 40’s. You will not get it prescribed by a doctor unless you have sub normal testosterone levels. Occasionally people will have low levels through illness. But usually it because you have either deliberately crashed your system prior to getting tested by a doctor or that you have a history of long term testosterone and steroid use and your body cannot produce normal levels naturally. The normal threshold is also set very low in the UK and a sub normal result is actually difficult to achieve. The incentive as to why you’d ever want to do this with normal levels is in the ballpark of batshit crazy. Who wants to have to inject themselves with testosterone twice a week for the rest of their lives if you don’t need to?

[Controversial]

I think cos Doms in excellent nick for his age folk automatically assume he’s a steroid head. I think it’s likely he uses at least testosterone but that’s almost normal nowadays for folk who train hard in to their 40s

It’s nonsense that taking testosterone replacement therapy is normal for people who train in the UK in their 40’s. You will not get it prescribed by a doctor unless you have sub normal testosterone levels.

I assume most people who take testosterone for training purposes aren't getting that prescribed though. I agree that most people in their 40s who train hard aren't taking testosterone, only those looking to build muscle fast.

[polecateddy]

I think cos Doms in excellent nick for his age folk automatically assume he’s a steroid head. I think it’s likely he uses at least testosterone but that’s almost normal nowadays for folk who train hard in to their 40s

It’s nonsense that taking testosterone replacement therapy is normal for people who train in the UK in their 40’s. You will not get it prescribed by a doctor unless you have sub normal testosterone levels.

I assume most people who take testosterone for training purposes aren't getting that prescribed though. I agree that most people in their 40s who train hard aren't taking testosterone, only those looking to build muscle fast.

If you are taking testosterone in a stupid way in gels (that don’t work), or with long gaps between taking it (you really need it a minimum of twice a week), or short term and coming off it then maybe you get away with it. But to get actual benefit it would have to be long term use which will always knacker your natural systems in the end. Are people really planning to take black market testosterone, which is really dangerous, for the rest of their lives? It does not seem like a very well thought out life plan! lol And when you come off it you face feeling crap the rest of your life as your natural testosterone production is permanently in the crapper. As an aside, for people that don’t know, all steroids are a derivative of testosterone. Professional bodybuilders these days always have a baseline of high testosterone use without fail, plus whatever designer steroid and growth hormone on top.

[Wee Tommy]

I think cos Doms in excellent nick for his age folk automatically assume he’s a steroid head. I think it’s likely he uses at least testosterone but that’s almost normal nowadays for folk who train hard in to their 40s

It’s nonsense that taking testosterone replacement therapy is normal for people who train in the UK in their 40’s. You will not get it prescribed by a doctor unless you have sub normal testosterone levels.

I assume most people who take testosterone for training purposes aren't getting that prescribed though. I agree that most people in their 40s who train hard aren't taking testosterone, only those looking to build muscle fast.

Nothing to do with building muscle fast. That’s absolute rubbish. What I notice in here is folk with zero experience of a situation make it up as they go along. I have direct experience and that’s why I commented.