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Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:24
by gilgamesh
Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:20
I voted and thought I wrote, but apparently I haven't.
Wilder because Wilder was undefeated and Wlad had been KO'd 4 times. Also a KO vs a snooze fest.
The main thing is like I said, after the Wilder rematch the Boxing world in general can't wait to see Fury's next fight. After the Wlad fight, he was gone for nearly 3 years, and wasn't missed.
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:26
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:23
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:13
not at all ,didnt mean that i meant looking for fighter to be slick and sharp as they were before and instead getting a washed up fighter
Tyson wasn't washed up when he fought Holyfield. Holyfield was believed to be washed up coming into the 1st fight with Tyson, and then he whipped Tyson's ass.
how many fights did he have in jail during that period , come on he wasnt the same fighter,how could he be after that
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:27
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:24
Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:20
I voted and thought I wrote, but apparently I haven't.
Wilder because Wilder was undefeated and Wlad had been KO'd 4 times. Also a KO vs a snooze fest.
The main thing is like I said, after the Wilder rematch the Boxing world in general can't wait to see Fury's next fight. After the Wlad fight, he was gone for nearly 3 years, and wasn't missed.
well i missed him
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:28
by gilgamesh
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:26
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:23
Tyson wasn't washed up when he fought Holyfield. Holyfield was believed to be washed up coming into the 1st fight with Tyson, and then he whipped Tyson's ass.
how many fights did he have in jail during that period , come on he wasnt the same fighter,how could he be after that
Holyfield wasn't his 1st fight fresh out of the joint. He had a few fights prior to fighting Holyfield.
Holyfield had an enlarged heart, and was forced to retire due to medical reasons in 1994. Then he came back, and beat Mike Tyson 2 years later.
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:32
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:24
Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:20
I voted and thought I wrote, but apparently I haven't.
Wilder because Wilder was undefeated and Wlad had been KO'd 4 times. Also a KO vs a snooze fest.
The main thing is like I said, after the Wilder rematch the Boxing world in general can't wait to see Fury's next fight. After the Wlad fight, he was gone for nearly 3 years, and wasn't missed.
no but honestly any fighter goes now there forgotten about, says more about how great boxing is doing as a sport at the moment we can lose fighters like fury, and no one really cares also look at pac man no one would care if he retired now., would you of said that 10 years ago
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:33
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:28
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:26
how many fights did he have in jail during that period , come on he wasnt the same fighter,how could he be after that
Holyfield wasn't his 1st fight fresh out of the joint. He had a few fights prior to fighting Holyfield.
Holyfield had an enlarged heart, and was forced to retire due to medical reasons in 1994. Then he came back, and beat Mike Tyson 2 years later.
what year and what fight you talking
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:34
by gilgamesh
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:32
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:24
The main thing is like I said, after the Wilder rematch the Boxing world in general can't wait to see Fury's next fight. After the Wlad fight, he was gone for nearly 3 years, and wasn't missed.
no but honestly any fighter goes now there forgotten about, says more about how great boxing is doing as a sport at the moment we can lose fighters like fury, and no one really cares also look at pac man no one would care if he retired now., would you of said that 10 years ago
Pac is in his 40's and is well past his best. 10 years ago he was the biggest star in the sport, and he was prime.
Hell even now he's still one of the Top 5 biggest stars in the sport, but obviously he ain't what he used to be.
People are a lot more interested in Fury now because he's made himself a lot more interesting by being entertaining for a change.
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:35
by gilgamesh
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:28
Holyfield wasn't his 1st fight fresh out of the joint. He had a few fights prior to fighting Holyfield.
Holyfield had an enlarged heart, and was forced to retire due to medical reasons in 1994. Then he came back, and beat Mike Tyson 2 years later.
what year and what fight you talking
Their 1st fight in 1996.
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:36
by margaret thatcher
Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:20
I voted and thought I wrote, but apparently I haven't.
Wilder because Wilder was undefeated and Wlad had been KO'd 4 times. Also a KO vs a snooze fest.
Those perfect unbeaten records! Dudes better not take dat L
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:38
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:35
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:33
what year and what fight you talking
Their 1st fight in 1996.
yeah werent 94 holy was like 36 heart condition mike out of jail , yeah prime right
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:39
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:34
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:32
no but honestly any fighter goes now there forgotten about, says more about how great boxing is doing as a sport at the moment we can lose fighters like fury, and no one really cares also look at pac man no one would care if he retired now., would you of said that 10 years ago
Pac is in his 40's and is well past his best. 10 years ago he was the biggest star in the sport, and he was prime.
Hell even now he's still one of the Top 5 biggest stars in the sport, but obviously he ain't what he used to be.
People are a lot more interested in Fury now because he's made himself a lot more interesting by being entertaining for a change.
but if pac walked away then he would of be forgotten same as fury
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:40
by gilgamesh
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:38
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:35
Their 1st fight in 1996.
yeah werent 94 holy was like 36 heart condition mike out of jail , yeah prime right
I mean they were still on top of the Heavyweight scene for the next few years. Holyfield was basically a Top 3 contender for another 5 years or so following the 1st Tyson fight.
So yeah, they were pretty damn close to prime there guy. Better than everyone else in the division at the time, save for Lennox Lewis.
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:41
by gilgamesh
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:39
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:34
Pac is in his 40's and is well past his best. 10 years ago he was the biggest star in the sport, and he was prime.
Hell even now he's still one of the Top 5 biggest stars in the sport, but obviously he ain't what he used to be.
People are a lot more interested in Fury now because he's made himself a lot more interesting by being entertaining for a change.
but if pac walked away then he would of be forgotten same as fury
Pac will never be forgotten by Boxing fans. He's the greatest Asian Boxer in the history of the sport.
Fury won't be forgotten now. He may have been if his only noteworthy achievement was the Wlad staring contest, thankfully he's actually been exciting now.
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:47
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:40
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:38
yeah werent 94 holy was like 36 heart condition mike out of jail , yeah prime right
I mean they were still on top of the Heavyweight scene for the next few years. Holyfield was basically a Top 3 contender for another 5 years or so following the 1st Tyson fight.
So yeah, they were pretty damn close to prime there guy. Better than everyone else in the division at the time, save for Lennox Lewis.
no dont agree , that was poor time for heavy weight boxing ,and it was a great fight either it was a brawl
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:50
by gilgamesh
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:47
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:40
I mean they were still on top of the Heavyweight scene for the next few years. Holyfield was basically a Top 3 contender for another 5 years or so following the 1st Tyson fight.
So yeah, they were pretty damn close to prime there guy. Better than everyone else in the division at the time, save for Lennox Lewis.
no dont agree , that was poor time for heavy weight boxing ,and it was a great fight either it was a brawl
The 90's is the 2nd best era in the history of Heavyweight Boxing. Behind only the 1970's.
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:51
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:50
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:47
no dont agree , that was poor time for heavy weight boxing ,and it was a great fight either it was a brawl
The 90's is the 2nd best era in the history of Heavyweight Boxing. Behind only the 1970's.
says who
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:52
by gilgamesh
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:51
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:50
The 90's is the 2nd best era in the history of Heavyweight Boxing. Behind only the 1970's.
says who
The majority of Boxing fans.
Make a poll about it I dare you.
Hell I'll do it for ya.
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:52
by brilo33
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:51
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:50
The 90's is the 2nd best era in the history of Heavyweight Boxing. Behind only the 1970's.
says who
do you think Pinklon Thomas
was better than aj
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:53
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:52
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:51
says who
The majority of Boxing fans.
Make a poll about it I dare you.
Hell I'll do it for ya.
going then
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:54
by brilo33
90s v 2015s-on wards
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:55
by gilgamesh
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:54
90s v 2015s-on wards
It's not even close.
Though I will grant you that Heavyweight Boxing is more exciting now than it was in the 10 or 12 years that preceeded 2016 or so.
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:56
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:55
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:54
90s v 2015s-on wards
It's not even close.
Though I will grant you that Heavyweight Boxing is more exciting now than it was in the 10 or 12 years that preceeded 2016 or so.
will see
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 15:58
by gilgamesh
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:56
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:55
It's not even close.
Though I will grant you that Heavyweight Boxing is more exciting now than it was in the 10 or 12 years that preceeded 2016 or so.
will see
We will
It's not even a question to me. In fact I feel mildly ridiculous even making the poll because it's like asking if Fire is Hot, and Water is Wet.
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 16:01
by brilo33
gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:58
brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:56
will see
We will
It's not even a question to me. In fact I feel mildly ridiculous even making the poll because it's like asking if Fire is Hot, and Water is Wet.
come of it mate there has been some good heavey weights fights in last year compaired to than i remember in 90s boxing was going stale in the 90s thats why super mid took its crown
Re: Which Fury win was better
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 16:03
by brilo33
how old are u gil, i mean roughly 20s 30s 40s