Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[mickey1975]

Fury and AJ will spend the rest of their careers calling each other out; generating publicity off each other as they go. The promoters will do the same. My guess, the fight never happens.

Fury will do wwe again.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[mickey1975]

So who is the biggest name?

[DrDuke]

No doubt, even he knows, that it sounds like a complete nonsense.

[Counter-puncher]

Fury and AJ will spend the rest of their careers calling each other out; generating publicity off each other as they go. The promoters will do the same. My guess, the fight never happens.

or it's a pac-floyd scenario where they're both well over 35 b y the time they fight, and boxing just kills my love for it stone-dead, again

[Onamastus]

Fury and AJ will spend the rest of their careers calling each other out; generating publicity off each other as they go. The promoters will do the same. My guess, the fight never happens.

or it's a pac-floyd scenario where they're both well over 35 b y the time they fight, and boxing just kills my love for it stone-dead, again

Most likely scenario

[Counter-puncher]

Fury and AJ will spend the rest of their careers calling each other out; generating publicity off each other as they go. The promoters will do the same. My guess, the fight never happens.

or it's a pac-floyd scenario where they're both well over 35 b y the time they fight, and boxing just kills my love for it stone-dead, again

Most likely scenario

man, fck boxing

[dookus]

No doubt, even he knows, that it sounds like a complete nonsense.

He's spending a lot of time downplaying Fury lately. I think he's trying to convince himself, not us, that he can beat Fury.

[Ruthless-RKO]

So who is the biggest name?

He probably considers Charles Martin as his biggest name..

[DrDuke]

If to make a top 5 of those, whom Joshua has already fought, I'd place them in a such order:

1. Klitschko
2. Povetkin
3. Whyte (looking on this fight retrospectively)
4. Parker
5. Ruiz

If to place Wilder there, I'd put him after Povetkin.

If to place Fury, he'd be #1.

[mickey1975]

He can’t beat The Gypsy King. He can’t even make sense now!

[mickey1975]

If to make a top 5 of those, whom Joshua has already fought, I'd place them in a such order:

1. Klitschko
2. Povetkin
3. Whyte (looking on this fight retrospectively)
4. Parker
5. Ruiz

If to place Wilder there, I'd put him after Povetkin.

If to place Fury, he'd be #1.

And that’s a good record. But Tyson already beat Wlad in Germany so how on earth does he say it isn’t the biggest name on his record?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Anthony Joshua: I've Been Placed On Pedestal, I Shouldn't Be Mentioned In Fury’s Era

Although Anthony Joshua is just 14 months younger than Tyson Fury, the WBC heavyweight champion Fury has five additional years of professional experience as a boxer.

The 30-year-old Joshua made his pro debut in 2013 shortly after capturing Olympics gold for Great Britain. The recently turned 32-year-old Fury didn’t pan out for the Summer Games and instead turned pro in 2008.

Although they are the top two active heavyweights in the world, the WBO, WBA, IBF and IBO champion Joshua doesn’t think he should be considered to be in the same era as the more seasoned Fury.

“Being world champion, with all those knockouts, you do feel kind of unstoppable. But realistically, in boxing terms, I’m way ahead of where I should be,” Joshua told GQ Magazine. “I’m working at such a quick pace. I shouldn’t even be in a position where I’m mentioned in Tyson Fury’s era. He’s five or six years ahead of me in terms of turning professional. In fact, when he was turning pro, I was just putting on my gloves for the first time.”

Joshua (23-1, 21 KOs) has fought just seven fewer pro fights than Fury (30-0-1, 21 KOs), who stepped away from the sport for three and a half years from 2015 and 2018 while battling with obesity, substance abuse and mental health issues.

“There’s always that question in my head. Am I as good as I should be? Am I as good as people say I am? I’ve been placed on this pedestal but with minimum experience, so there’s always that element of doubt,” said Joshua.

Joshua, who eventually captured all of the belts Fury was forced to vacate in recent years, also offered a look into how he was maturing when Fury was on hiatus.

“I was just living life. Enjoying myself, having no real structure. I was going to college, but there was no real purpose,” said Joshua. “With boxing, it wasn’t even about becoming the world champion. It was about becoming a world champion of myself. I made the decision to focus on the sport. It was either sleep early, digest good food, listen to the right things, focus on my boxing education or just go to the gym to keep fit, have a bit of fun with it, sleep late, struggle the next day, probably miss training and eventually give up.

“It’s not about me elevating myself to have some sort of Hollywood status where I want to disconnect from the real world. No matter how far you go, I firmly believe that you’ll always come back to your roots. The biggest aspect is being able to take people with me, to have them see what’s on the other side, what’s achievable in life.”

[mickey1975]

He’s nowhere near where Eddie has convinced him he is. Hollywood status! Nobody out there has a clue who he is!

[margaret thatcher]

“With boxing, it wasn’t even about becoming the world champion. It was about becoming a world champion of myself.

omg so motivational and deep #TeamAJ

[margaret thatcher]

hollywood is pansy land anyway, basically dudes in the drama or choir club who spend hours a day on their makeup and get worshipped by little girls

[Ruthless-RKO]

Fury vs. Joshua: Hearn Says Deal On The Verge of Being Put on Paper

Eddie Hearn, promoter for IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua, has continued to hold discussions to finalize a 2021 unification with WBC champion Tyson Fury.

Both champions have fights coming up in the next few months.

Fury is scheduled to face Deontay Wilder in a trilogy fight on December 19 in Las Vegas, while Joshua is going to take on mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev on December 12 in the UK.

Back in June, Joshua and Fury agreed on the financial terms for a two-fight pact in 2021.

There was a big sticking point, with Fury having a mandatory obligation to Dillian Whyte that had to be satisfied by February.

But the obligation was abolished last month, when Alexander Povetkin knocked out Whyte in five rounds.

Hearn has been holding serious conversations with Fury's co-promoter, Bob Arum of Top Rank.

"Yeah, I've been talking to Bob Arum about various things," Hearn told Sky Sports. "Fury against Joshua is a big ambition of everybody involved, to be honest.

"We want to talk about it, but we also want to take care of business, which is Kubrat Pulev for AJ, and Deontay Wilder for Tyson Fury. I'm very sure you're going to see two versions of that fight in 2021. I think we're on the verge now of papering that deal with Bob Arum. We haven't done it yet, but all the conversations are positive.

"We have a lot on our plates with the pandemic, making sure we keep boxing alive and trying to deliver those fights for AJ and Fury, but I think 2021, I'm very sure you'll see those two fights."

Top Rank president Todd DuBoef recently stated that his company is very motivated to get the Fury-Joshua fight done.

"There is a gravitation to bring the titles together, and that would be Joshua and Fury," said DuBoef. "Obviously we would have loved to do that before the end of this year, but for the pandemic.

"I don't think anybody is wavering from that objective. Both guys have great personalities, they can fight, and it is overdue. Let's get it done."

[Ruthless-RKO]

Johnny Nelson backs 'better all-rounder' AJ to beat Gypsy King

Next year could be the year we finally get to see one of the most highly anticipated fights of all time... Tyson Fury vs Anthony Joshua.

The all-British heavyweight fight is scheduled for next year and has divided opinion among fans and professionals alike as to who will come out on top (other than both fighter’s bank accounts, which will be the real winners).

The bookmakers, as well as boxing legends Mike Tyson and George Foreman, have Tyson Fury as the favourite in the fight. However, the latest boxing great to throw his hat into the ring in this debate has said writing off the Olympic champion is a “fatal mistake."

Johnny Nelson, the retired British cruiserweight, has predicted Joshua will beat the Gypsy King as he is the “better all-round fighter”. Although Nelson claims Fury is the better boxer tactically and technically, Joshua is still his favourite for the win due to the “variety in his arsenal."

“I’ve gone public in saying I think Anthony Joshua is the all round better fighter. I think Tyson Fury is better tactically and the more technically equipped, but AJ is the all-rounder," he told talkSPORT.

“He can fight, he can box, he’s an athlete. Tyson Fury is a boxer. I think both men are now at a stage where they’ve done so much and learned so much in their careers that they’re so neck and neck.

“But, I’d go with Anthony Joshua because he’s shown me a lot more variety in his arsenal.”

Nelson is not alone in this debate, with former heavyweight world champions David Haye and Wladimir Klitschko also backing AJ for the victory. The Hayemaker went on to say: "Joshua is the only person who has the artillery, the skill set, the athleticism, the clean living, the know-how, the experience, to have a chance to beat Fury."

Joshua’s variety and athleticism may be his key to beating the undefeated Fury, with both Nelson and Haye believing this. Nelson also clarified (if it was needed) that both fighters want the fight.

Joshua will have even more of a point to prove against the Gypsy King, after Fury publicly claimed that Joshua has never fought Deontay Wilder because he is “scared of getting knocked out” by the American.

With Joshua and Fury having to first step into the ring against Kubrat Pulev and Deontay Wilder respectively, fans will get one more look at the two heavyweights before they finally face each other.

With more belts on the line than there are in the average person’s wardrobe, this fight can’t come soon enough.

[mickey1975]

I’m amazed Sky Johnny tips AJ.....

[margaret thatcher]

Fury is easily the most rounded fighter in the division, he can fight any style effectively, can fight south paw and orthodox, has the best foot work, fast hands for a shw, plenty of stamina, good recovery, etc. Really only noticable lack is of a big shot, but he's no feather man.

To pick AJj for being more well rounded is just straight up retarded. If AJ wins it's gonna be because he caught Fury with a big shot, he will be losing on points until then

[DrDuke]

Fury is easily the most rounded fighter in the division, he can fight any style effectively, can fight south paw and orthodox, has the best foot work, fast hands for a shw, plenty of stamina, good recovery, etc. Really only noticable lack is of a big shot, but he's no feather man.

To pick AJj for being more well rounded is just straight up retarded. If AJ wins it's gonna be because he caught Fury with a big shot, he will be losing on points until then

Absolutely correct. However, there are even more chances of Fury stopping Joshua than vice versa.

[Grilling Machine]

Fury is easily the most rounded fighter in the division

Not since Usyk moved up, unless you separate them into HW and SHW. Fury's size is a serious threat to everyone, and he's an ATG clincher with it. He also eats boar for his big fights and comes in with extra muscle.

I'd back the confident Wlad-beating AJ of 2017, but I think that version was put to bed by Ruiz. Wilder also has the tools but fights too scared to maximise himself.

[DrDuke]

Fury is easily the most rounded fighter in the division

Not since Usyk moved up, unless you separate them into HW and SHW. Fury's size is a serious threat to everyone, and he's an ATG clincher with it. He also eats boar for his big fights and comes in with extra muscle.

Usyk's inside game isn't that good as Fury's one.

[Ash93]

I’m amazed Sky Johnny tips AJ.....

[Ruthless-RKO]

Fury To Joshua: Vacate WBO Title, Forget Usyk, Fight Me in 2021

WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury has applied pressure on his domestic rival, Anthony Joshua, to bypass any further obligations that stand in the way of a 2021 showdown.

Fury is going to face Deontay Wilder in a trilogy fight on the tentative date of December 19.

Joshua, who holds the WBO, IBF, IBO, WBA world titles, will defend his titles on the tentative date of December 12 against Kubrat Pulev.

Pulev is the IBF's mandatory challenger.

Should Joshua prevail, he would then owe another mandatory fight - to the WBO's top man, Oleksandr Usyk.

Usyk has already made it clear that he won't step aside - which puts Joshua in a very tight position.

A two-fight series with Fury is by far a more lucrative opportunity.

"Rather than fight all these mandatories he’s got, I’d say just vacate those belts and fight the fight everyone wants to see," Fury told Behind the Gloves.

"I ain’t running from you, I don’t care about you. I’ll go through you like a knife through butter. Come and fight the big boy, step up to the plate and get knocked out. Then fight all those easy guys. No disrespect to Oleksandr Usyk – great fighter, cruiserweight world champion, probably going to be heavyweight champion if he fights Anthony Joshua – but don’t take my retirement cheque, baby. Don’t do it.

"I said to Deontay Wilder years ago, 'do not take my retirement fund, do not fight Joshua, He’s mine. He’s my countryman, I’m having him, I’m breaking him in!' But it didn’t happen. He got broke in by an unlikely suspect [in Andy Ruiz]. It was what it was. If they fight [Usyk will beat Joshua], but I bet they don’t [fight]. Because why would he fight Usyk and get ten percent of what he can make off the Gypsy King.

"Vacate it, let them boys fight for the vacant [WBO] belt, whoever it is, Usyk and [Joseph] Parker. We’re at the top of the game. We’re in this boxing to fight the biggest fights out there. It’s a boxing match, what’s the worse that can happen? You can lose? Big deal."