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Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 09 Jul 2020, 23:02
by TheBeast
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Thursday 9, July 2020
The Bubble, MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA

heavy
Carlos Takam 38 5 1
VS
Jerry Forrest 26 3 0

super bantam
Carlos Castro 25 0 0
VS
Cesar Juarez 25 8 0

cruiser
Robin Sirwan Safar 10 0 0
VS
TBA

heavy
Jared Anderson 4 0 0
VS
Hector Perez 7 2 0

super feather
Joshafat Ortiz 7 0 0
VS
Joshua Orta 6 0 0

middle
Fred Wilson Jr 6 0 2
VS
Donte Stubbs 6 1 0

welter
Peter Cortez 2 1 0
VS
Corey Champion 1 3 0


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welter
Peter Cortez 2 1 0
VS
Corey Champion 1 3 0

Corey won by TKO
Double KD in this one!
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FULL CARD HIGHLIGHTS & VIDEO HERE:
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ENJOY!! :TU:

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 09 Jul 2020, 23:09
by diddy
diddy wrote: 07 Jul 2020, 22:51 The odds on this fight are even money. I’m utterly flabbergasted by those odds.
Still flabbergasted.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 09 Jul 2020, 23:24
by margaret thatcher
I get people having doubts about what Takam still has, but Forrest didn't really seem like the type who would take advantage. At least we know for sure know. Please no more Forrest until he's put in better showings.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 09 Jul 2020, 23:28
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 09 Jul 2020, 23:24 I get people having doubts about what Takam still has, but Forrest didn't really seem like the type who would take advantage. At least we know for sure know. Please no more Forrest until he's put in better showings.
This is really only Forrest's 2nd televised fight I'm aware of. At least only the 2nd one of any significance. I thought he deserved the nod against Franklin so I had no issue with him getting another opportunity, but yeah he's not a real exciting guy to watch.

Maybe he's the type you'd want to match an up and coming phenom against or something, but even then I'm not sure because he's not really a guy that you'll look good against even in beating him.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 09 Jul 2020, 23:30
by Evander
diddy wrote: 09 Jul 2020, 23:09
diddy wrote: 07 Jul 2020, 22:51 The odds on this fight are even money. I’m utterly flabbergasted by those odds.
Still flabbergasted.
Totally get where you were coming from especially taking into account Forrest's opponents, it was a bit of a steal wasn't it.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 09 Jul 2020, 23:46
by gilgamesh
Evander wrote: 09 Jul 2020, 23:30
diddy wrote: 09 Jul 2020, 23:09

Still flabbergasted.
Totally get where you were coming from especially taking into account Forrest's opponents, it was a bit of a steal wasn't it.
Yeah as soon as I heard the odds I really wished I had about $400 on Takam.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 09 Jul 2020, 23:52
by Evander
gilgamesh wrote: 09 Jul 2020, 23:46
Evander wrote: 09 Jul 2020, 23:30

Totally get where you were coming from especially taking into account Forrest's opponents, it was a bit of a steal wasn't it.
Yeah as soon as I heard the odds I really wished I had about $400 on Takam.
Absolutely

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 10 Jul 2020, 05:25
by Ruthless-RKO
Carlos Takam Holds Off Late Rally By Jerry Forrest, Wins Decision

Carlos Takam physically suffered more than he bargained for in taking a short-notice assignment, but one where his career will benefit moving forward.

The 39-year Cameroonian heavyweight prevailed via unanimous decision over Jerry Forrest in their 10-round main event Thursday evening at MGM Grand Conference Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Judge Max DeLuca had the bout 98-92, with judge Patricia Morse Jarman scoring the contest 97-93 and Dave Moretti a little closer at 96-94 all in favor of Takam, who stepped into the main event on just two weeks’ notice.

The makeshift main event came on relative short notice for both boxers. Forrest was originally due to face Jarrell Miller, the disgraced unbeaten heavyweight who threw away yet another big opportunity after once again providing a dirty drug test through pre-fight random testing.

Luckily for Forrest, the DiBella Entertainment-promoted heavyweight was able to keep a fight date on Top Rank’s show. In came Takam, who was previously training for another ESPN bout only for the opportunity to fall through when scheduled opponent Oscar Rivas suffered an elbow injury and was forced to withdraw.

“The preparation for this fight was not easy,” the 39-year old Takam admitted to Bernardo Osuna after the bout. “I was supposed to fight June 14 veruss Rivas but Mr Rivas could not fight because he had an injury. My promoter (Joe DeGuardia, Star Boxing) called me and said he had a fight for me.

“I checked out Jerry Forrest and said, ‘OK, let’s go.’ He asked if I was sure. I told him I’m ready to fight anybody.”


The lack of full preparation for one another showed in an awkward opening round. Takam—who represented Cameroon in the 2004 Olympics—put his size advantage to use, his well-proportioned 245 ¾-pound frame used to outmuscle his southpaw foe whom he outweighed by 20 pounds.

Both boxers looked sharper in round two. Takam bounced on his toes while Forrest came forward in hopes of working his right jab. Takam’s long left stick was enough to keep the Virginia-bred heavyweight on the outside for much of the frame. Forrest closed the gap, connecting with a left hand which forced Takam—a 39-year old Cameroon native now based out of the greater Las Vegas area—to clinch. Takam closed the frame with a sweeping right hand upstairs.

Forrest grew tentative in round three, struggling to pin down a mobile Takam and failing to let his hands go. A similar pattern played out in round four, where Takam mixed it up between infighting and bouncing on his toes on the outside. Forrest was unable to time the rhythm of the 39-year old contender, resulting in his falling well behind.

Takam continued to outwork a reluctant Forrest in a sloppy round five marred by frequent clinching. A cut over Takam’s eye seemed to have dulled his own attack, though his simply remaining active was enough to continue banking rounds.

Forrest connected with a left hand in round seven, a point in the fight where he seemed poised to turn the tide. Takam shook off the blow, but his own offense was dulled as the sight of his own blood and the pain of a suspected fractured cheek bone appeared to have affected his performance in the second half of the fight.

Takam effectively circled away from Forrest’s left hand throughout round eight, Action continued to be sorely lacking in the slow-paced main event, with neither fighter letting their hands go in the later rounds. Takam scored the best punch of the frame, connecting with a right hand as Forrest dropped his left hand low.

Round nine was marred by frequent clinching as the pair of heavyweights fought through fatigue. Takam fought behind a flicking jab, while Forrest moved forward but did little once he made his way inside.

Forrest was given the marching orders by head trainer Anthony Chase to go for the knockout as the bout entered the 10th and final round. Instead, it was Takam who took the initiative, connecting with lead right hands, Forrest fought behind a range-finding jab, hoping to land a straight left behind it but never pulling the trigger. A left hand finally connected for the 32-year old southpaw late in the round, but lacked any follow-through as Takam was able to clinch and recreate distance.

Takam led in every statistical category according to Compubox. Takam landed 106 of 455 punches for a 23% connect rate, including 30 body punches. Forrest—seven years Takam’s junior—landed 70 punches out of just 321 thrown for a 22% clip as he falls to 26-4 (20KOs), suffering his second loss in his last three starts.

A narrow defeat by Forrest to Jermaine Franklin last July was met with dispute by most observers, although the Newsport News native remains without a signature win while leaving Vegas with a lot of regret.

Meanwhile, Takam advances to 39-5-1 (28KOs), The win is his fourth straight win after suffering back to back knockout losses to unified heavyweight titlist Anthony Joshua and fellow former title challenger Dereck Chisora.

While another title shot is in his sights even in the twilight of his career, the veteran contender wouldn’t mind making use of his prior training camp as a springboard to such a fight.

“I want to get me Oscar Rivas,” Takam suggested of his next opponent. “I want anyone in the top five at heavyweight or a world title shot if that materializes.”

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 10 Jul 2020, 05:27
by gregregegg
Yep, always worth remembering that being semi competitive vs top level shows lots more than decently beating bad opponents. AJ, Parker, Pov, Chis ect would butcher Jerry forrests resume of wins. I think aJ, parker or 2014 povetkin could probably knock out Jerry forests carrer wins in 1 night, back to back to back to back...

Remind me to bet against Jermain Franklin when he steps up...

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 10 Jul 2020, 06:46
by DrDuke
Takam's performance was unconvincing. A totally lackluster bout.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 10 Jul 2020, 07:27
by Cent0089
DrDuke wrote: 10 Jul 2020, 06:46 Takam's performance was unconvincing. A totally lackluster bout.
Yeah, but he is 39 y old. Still was able to handle Forrest and got some dollars. maybe Top Rank can make Takam - Jennings bout :box: :box: :box:

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 10 Jul 2020, 07:45
by DrDuke
Cent0089 wrote: 10 Jul 2020, 07:27
DrDuke wrote: 10 Jul 2020, 06:46 Takam's performance was unconvincing. A totally lackluster bout.
Yeah, but he is 39 y old. Still was able to handle Forrest and got some dollars. maybe Top Rank can make Takam - Jennings bout :box: :box: :box:
This is a one of the best matchups for Takam. He is old indeed and younger rising fighers are likely to stop him. So, a matchup against some other known veteran like Jennengs will be OK.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 10 Jul 2020, 08:09
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 10 Jul 2020, 08:32
by world ranked
world ranked wrote: 08 Jul 2020, 11:29
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Jul 2020, 05:52 The 39-year-old Takam is a slight -155 betting favorite. Backers of Forrest, 32, can get +135.
Got Forrest at a bad number (-100). But Takam at his age can go at any fight worth a shot.
I was banking on Takam being more faded than what he was. This was more about what I thought of Takam at this stage than Forrest. I lost this only means to fade Takam again next fight. Forrest is utter trash and doesn't need to waste tv space.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 10 Jul 2020, 19:53
by bobcatbox
I was extremely disappointed in the fight. Was hoping for a lot better. Forrest never seemed to push the fight the way he needed to. Let Takam settle into a pace he could win every round with. I had it 97-93, being generous to Forrest.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 10 Jul 2020, 20:01
by brilo33
takam looked a lot cutter but a lot less powerfulf and dangerous

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 11 Jul 2020, 05:42
by Ruthless-RKO
The heavyweight-headlined July 9 edition of Top Rank Boxing on ESPN averaged 299,000 viewers over the course of the two-hour, forty-seven minute telecast, according to Nielsen Media Research. The four-fight card reached a peak audience of 344,000 viewers, which came at the 10:15pm-10:29pm ET block during the headlining act which saw Cameroon’s Takam (39-5-1, 28KOs) score a 10-round decision over Forrest live on ESPN from the MGM Grand Conference Center in Las Vegas.

From Boxing Scene

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 11 Jul 2020, 11:19
by Cent0089
is that numbers so low? This was actually pretty solid card. What numbers did espn had before pandemic ?

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 11 Jul 2020, 12:23
by world ranked
Cent0089 wrote: 11 Jul 2020, 11:19 is that numbers so low? This was actually pretty solid card. What numbers did espn had before pandemic ?
I guess its not a solid card without big A side fighters according to boxing fans.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 11 Jul 2020, 12:48
by Jeff_lacy_ko
There are 350k ish hardcore fans in the US

There are about 800k more fans who tune in for bigger fighters

Thats it.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 11 Jul 2020, 13:02
by world ranked
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 11 Jul 2020, 12:48 There are 350k ish hardcore fans in the US

There are about 800k more fans who tune in for bigger fighters

Thats it.
Great point this clearly goes to most only care about bigger fights and not the sport itself. If it doesn't regards someone they know or care about they won't be watching just because it's boxing.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 11 Jul 2020, 14:38
by Ruthless-RKO
world ranked wrote: 11 Jul 2020, 13:02
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 11 Jul 2020, 12:48 There are 350k ish hardcore fans in the US

There are about 800k more fans who tune in for bigger fighters

Thats it.
Great point this clearly goes to most only care about bigger fights and not the sport itself. If it doesn't regards someone they know or care about they won't be watching just because it's boxing.
A few years ago (2-3 years), there was 500k-600k hardcore fans..

We’ll need to compare these numbers to those of FOX when they air boxing next month. Showtime figures are always low anyway.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 11 Jul 2020, 14:43
by margaret thatcher
Funny thing is people were saying the numbers would be lit due to people being desperate for boxing, there was even talk of ordinary fights people ppv smashes lol

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 11 Jul 2020, 14:43
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jul 2020, 14:43 Funny thing is people were saying the numbers would be lit due to people being desperate for boxing
Yeh. And it’s not like you have to pay for ESPN.

Heck UFC did 1m viewers on ESPN couple weeks ago.

Re: Carlos Takam vs. Jerry Forrest - July 9, 2020

Posted: 11 Jul 2020, 14:50
by Jeff_lacy_ko
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jul 2020, 14:43 Funny thing is people were saying the numbers would be lit due to people being desperate for boxing, there was even talk of ordinary fights people ppv smashes lol
I think it might be an economic necessity to put fights on PPV just so the 300k fans can generate some revenue for purses