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Re: Tony Bellew working with the WBC to potentially create a new "super cruiserweight" division!

Posted: 18 Sep 2020, 01:03
by sykessta
I guess if you wanna look at it that way.

Re: Tony Bellew working with the WBC to potentially create a new "super cruiserweight" division!

Posted: 18 Sep 2020, 01:05
by gilgamesh
sykessta wrote: 18 Sep 2020, 01:03 I guess if you wanna look at it that way.
That's the only way to look at it.

If you make Cruiserweight 225, you might as well just do away with boxing completely because you've killed the magic.

Re: Tony Bellew working with the WBC to potentially create a new "super cruiserweight" division!

Posted: 18 Sep 2020, 01:42
by sykessta
In case you didn't check my post in the other topic. Would you watch the olympics every four years if your country did not allow professionals to play countries that did on the 1 in 1000 chance that your country might win while the other 999 times they get completely demolished?

Re: Tony Bellew working with the WBC to potentially create a new "super cruiserweight" division!

Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 04:15
by Enlightened-One
I’ve just read a Dougie Fischer article published on The RING website, where he shared his thoughts about it being better to increase the weight limits for light heavyweights from 175lbs to 185lbs and cruiserweights from 200lbs to 215lbs, rather than creating a new 220lbs super-cruiserweight division to cater for small heavyweights.

It's not a bad idea, but I’d probably go one step further, by also increasing the weight limit slightly for the super-middleweight division (perhaps from 168lbs to to 172lbs) to fill the 25lbs void between middleweight and the new 185lbs light-heavyweight limit.

Re: Tony Bellew working with the WBC to potentially create a new "super cruiserweight" division!

Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 05:37
by Freakzilla
Surely it would make more sense to drop Cruiserweight back down to 190 and create a Super Cruiserweight division at 210.
Small cruisers who can't make light heavy have a more natural division and the bigger cruisers and smaller heavies can fight at 210.

Would mess with the integrity of Cruiserweight history and lineage etc but it doesn't really have that anyway.

Any division higher than 210 detracts from the prestige of heavyweight in my opinion. A Super Cruiserweight limit should be lower than what some of the lighter modern iconic fighters (Tyson, Ali, Foreman etc) weighed in their primes.

Re: Tony Bellew working with the WBC to potentially create a new "super cruiserweight" division!

Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 05:49
by Enlightened-One
Freakzilla wrote: 28 Sep 2020, 05:37Super Cruiserweight limit should be lower than what some of the lighter modern iconic fighters (Tyson, Ali, Foreman etc) weighed in their primes.
I don’t think it would do.

Roughly 45 years has passed since Ali & Foreman competed at heavyweight weighing less than 220lbs.

And Rocky Marciano, as well most of the heavyweight greats that preceded him, weighed less than 190lbs for their bouts, which is today's equivalent of a rehydrated 175lb-er’s ring weight.

No one really questions the heavyweight credentials of those guys.

Human beings are getting bigger as time passes by. So “something” has to be done within the next decade or so to fill the massive (45lbs+) increasingly growing void in weight between 200lbs cruiserweights and the average heavyweight.

Re: Tony Bellew working with the WBC to potentially create a new "super cruiserweight" division!

Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 06:29
by Tevfik1907
There are already too many weight classes in boxing, no need to make it even more.

Re: Tony Bellew working with the WBC to potentially create a new "super cruiserweight" division!

Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 06:32
by Enlightened-One
Tevfik1907 wrote: 28 Sep 2020, 06:29 There are already too many weight classes in boxing, no need to make it even more.
But what about Dougie Fischer's suggestion to increase the weight limits for light heavyweights from 175lbs to 185lbs and cruiserweights from 200lbs to 215lbs, rather than creating a new 220lbs super-cruiserweight division to cater for small heavyweights?

I suppose we'd probably need to go one step further, by also increasing the weight limit slightly for the super-middleweight division (perhaps from 168lbs to to 172lbs) to fill the 25lbs void between middleweight and the new 185lbs light-heavyweight limit.