is there anything in the Fury glove controversy?

Ricky
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Re: is there anything in the Fury glove controversy?

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Steveh583 wrote: 03 Nov 2020, 06:20
Ricky wrote: 03 Nov 2020, 06:02
Steveh583 wrote: 03 Nov 2020, 05:51
I'm not even entertaining it, this is a website for serious boxing fans, not TMZ. take this poo to youtube where a million casual fans with their own agenda (be it patriotism or race hating) will feed you the confirmation bias you are so desperately craving.

Fury pitty pats..... hence wilder saying he has pillow fists repeatedly...... until the narrative no longer suits and then he has a horseshoe in his glove or other such utter drivel.


I don't have any agenda, I just think there is explaining to do.

The photos aren't shopped, here's the actual video footage;



I've watched thousands of fights. Thousands. Not once have I ever seen a glove flapping around like that, ever. So what's the explanation? He's got wrists made of cooked pasta?
i have. loads of times. lots of fighters slap with an empty hand on post with their lead palm to set up a powerful cross.

and respectfully you do have an agenda as you consistently championed wilder prior to the fight. not a SINGLE other poster lends any credibility to this nonsense.

But if you slap with an open hand, you still have knuckles where they should be, and fingers where the should be in the glove. It doesn't flap back like its empty. The clip and the photos look very much like the top half of the glove is empty - which I've never seen before. And I don't have agenda, the idea that I lost £100 betting Wilder would lead me to have sour grapes about the fight months later is stupid... (i lost double that on Usyk to stop Chisora).

If someone can demonstate a glove flapping around like that with the fist inserted into the glove properly, then I'd believe it. I don't think a glove flaps around like that if its worn correctly.
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Ricky wrote: 03 Nov 2020, 06:49
Steveh583 wrote: 03 Nov 2020, 06:20
Ricky wrote: 03 Nov 2020, 06:02



I don't have any agenda, I just think there is explaining to do.

The photos aren't shopped, here's the actual video footage;



I've watched thousands of fights. Thousands. Not once have I ever seen a glove flapping around like that, ever. So what's the explanation? He's got wrists made of cooked pasta?
i have. loads of times. lots of fighters slap with an empty hand on post with their lead palm to set up a powerful cross.

and respectfully you do have an agenda as you consistently championed wilder prior to the fight. not a SINGLE other poster lends any credibility to this nonsense.

But if you slap with an open hand, you still have knuckles where they should be, and fingers where the should be in the glove. It doesn't flap back like its empty. The clip and the photos look very much like the top half of the glove is empty - which I've never seen before. And I don't have agenda, the idea that I lost £100 betting Wilder would lead me to have sour grapes about the fight months later is stupid... (i lost double that on Usyk to stop Chisora).

If someone can demonstate a glove flapping around like that with the fist inserted into the glove properly, then I'd believe it. I don't think a glove flaps around like that if its worn correctly.
im not entertaining this
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Re: is there anything in the Fury glove controversy?

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J-C wrote: 03 Nov 2020, 06:57 Image
That's his fingers bent back, not his wrist.
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Ricky wrote: 03 Nov 2020, 07:04
J-C wrote: 03 Nov 2020, 06:57 Image
That's his fingers bent back, not his wrist.
Bravo, that is some response!

Okay, so you have no trouble thinking Ali is able to lock his wrist in place and bend his finger backward 90 degrees. Something which fingers need a good amount of applied pressure to be able to do.

But it's unbelievable that a boxer's wrist can do this. Something the wrist is more than capable of doing without external pressure.

Does that not seem a bit strange to you?
Besides it looks pretty obvious from that photo that it's bending at the wrist, not the finger joint, but right, whatever.

Right, so anyway, lets say Fury doesn't have his hand/fist in the correct position, how far down into the glove do you think his hand/fist needs to be to enable the glove to bend back at the wrist based on air resistance alone?

I'll give you a clue two of these are the correct answer:

a) the hand being correctly inside the glove
b) the hand being below the wrist of the glove
c) the hand being somewhere in between (a) and (b)
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Wilder got outfought, out thought and out boxed. He did not win a minute of the fight and instead of owning the defeat he has blamed everyone and everything bar himself for getting dismantled in a spectacular way. Maybe the thread should be; was my suit too heavy, was my water spiked by my trainer, was I injured in training, why did my cornerman (who is a former world champ) throw in the towel when I was on the verge of getting knocked out. Has a better ring to it.
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Ricky wrote: 03 Nov 2020, 08:03 https://youtu.be/-ffnmXvwow4
Right so notice to get that same effect Cunningham has moved his fist fully into the wrist. If you look closely you can see a lot of space in the palm of the glove. He even inserts fingers into the pocket of space above his fist.

Does Cunningham's fist position match up with the photo evidence which you posted? Can you see an obvious empty space within Fury's glove?
I'll answer that one, no you can't.

Therefore that disqualifies position (b)
Now unfortunately the bones in the back of your hand stop the glove from flopping back if you chose (c)

Resultantly the only possibility left is that Fury's hand was in the correct position, which was option (a).
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JimJim2009 wrote: 02 Nov 2020, 09:43 the problem for deontay with fury's gloves is that they contained tyson's fists
Hahaha, so funny man!
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lol, as if Fury could wear his glove like Cunningham did without anyone noticing that for a year :lol:

just like rickster, and lep, and all these other glovegate bois who were on wilder hard didnt notice a single f@cking thing during either fight or for the year afte the first one. not a word was said until wilder lost. excuse searching time! even if that means suddenly becoming unable to know what a slap is, and thinking that palms are fingers!

and of course the comission missed it, and wilder missed it, and wilder's team missed it, and all commentators and fans missed it. and despite this glove loading--which would be an extremely serious and illegal wrong doing-- no complaint or lawsuit has been filed.

and of course, as plainly shown, fury could still make a fist, something that would be impossible if his hand was way down
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Re: is there anything in the Fury glove controversy?

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i can do that in my boxing gloves , there valour gloves 16 oz you can back slap with them if quick .the front of the glove flaps back with an open hand, identical to that tyson glove , if you ever watch tyson spar train he throws shots like that back hand slap, foolish talk
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