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mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 18:43 Tris always gets involved, trying to promote his new book.

skanksta wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:38

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 10:15

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 08:39 Former world lightweight champion John Murray lives blind in one eye.

I didn't know this

I didn’t know John Murray was ever World Champion ?

Apart from that, great piece.

Ricky wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:59 The quitter stuff is just bullshït bravado.

David Haye said after the fight he'd "rather be knocked spark out than lose that way". What a liar.

Haye got his shot vs Klitchko (that he got by acting like a total knob) and what did he do? He threw himself to the canvas after every shot because he was fvcking terrified of getting hit by a counter.

His showing that night was far more cowardly than anything you'll see from Dubois.

nfc90210 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:56 This video perfectly illustrates why eye injuries in combat sports are no joke.

I like Michael Bisping but he's a lunatic. Going blind in one eye due to injuries sustained in fights and then, rather than retiring, deciding to cheat on eye tests so that you could continue fighting is insane. It demonstrates the "warrior mentality", but is that really what we want from fighters? Doing what Dubois is the humane and sensible thing.

Though in the defense of the commissions, while Bisping went blind in the eye during his career I don't think he actually had it removed till after he retired.

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:30 Bellew was one of the first to put his boot in, but he'll never admit to turning away from Stevenson. He won my respect for getting into that ring, and lost none for what happened. He lost it for letting his ego get in the way of honesty afterwards.

Mason said he felt like quitting when he took some painful shots he wasn't used to in his first step up, but went on to give one of the bravest performances in an all-British fight. These guys are pushing themselves to face down fears we don't, rather than just not being right in the head (usually!), and we relate to that. It's why I love boxing, and Dubois-Joyce was a credit.

It's a shame Dan didn't continue, give it one last go, and then call for the doctor to stop it in the corner. Or he could've asked for the doc earlier, because it should've been stopped. And that's the crux, innit? When you're surrounded by people who care more about money and the reflected glory they're about to lose than your health, eff 'em.

If he's open to relocating to the US for a couple of years, I wonder if Breland might be a good fit? He needs a team that looks out for him. One of the things that impresses me about Dubois is that he had time for Bruno's advice, instead of dismissing it because of Frank's world-level losses. I think if he goes to the US and fights a handful of their quality B-level heavies, working with someone who gets his head and feet moving half-decently, he can still potentially win a title in the next 5 years.

nfc90210 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:56 This video perfectly illustrates why eye injuries in combat sports are no joke.

I like Michael Bisping but he's a lunatic. Going blind in one eye due to injuries sustained in fights and then, rather than retiring, deciding to cheat on eye tests so that you could continue fighting is insane. It demonstrates the "warrior mentality", but is that really what we want from fighters? Doing what Dubois is the humane and sensible thing.

Though in the defense of the commissions, while Bisping went blind in the eye during his career I don't think he actually had it removed till after he retired.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:33

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 18:54

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 15:49 Is anyone ballsy enough to say that Gerald McClellan quit?

He did quit. Yes. Is what it is.

DDD was happy to live the rest of his life being called a quitter.

The first time I watched the pre fight Benn buildup (i was too young to watch it at the time), I remember being frightened of McClellan in interviews despite knowing what happened in the fight. I think he was one of the most intimidating guys in boxing history.

I really don't think there was any quit in McClellan. He just wasn't built that way. None of us have had blood clots on our brains and had our brains bleeding while we try to use the utmost concentration and focus in a fight.

He was literally dying and collapsed moments later. We don't know what he was going through in there and it probably started many rounds before, when he was getting hit with rabbit punches. He'd been blinking for quite some time which suggests the brain bleeding was probably already occurring. He was probably in agony and suffering from some neurological impairment where he couldn't think straight or move right. If he'd quit earlier he might have been able to have a normal life and not have to spend the rest of his life blind, deaf, probably unable to wipe his ass.

He's been living like that day in day out for the best part of 25 years yet he still gets called a quitter.

Saying he quit just doesn't feel accurate when you weigh up everything.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:09

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 18:54

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 15:49 Is anyone ballsy enough to say that Gerald McClellan quit?

He did quit. Yes. Is what it is.

DDD was happy to live the rest of his life being called a quitter.

This attitude is less than pathetic. Who do you think you are? Dubois would melt your head with a slap. The man showed intelligence looking after himself while doing his job.

Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 13:17 Very confused as to why a doctor wasn't called to look at the eye before that last round, and why the corner didn't think "save him for another day"

Likewise, imagine if you will, that fight was in Sky and Dubois was Johnny Foreigner against Joyce, they'd have been calling for the corner to jump in from round 7...

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 04:55

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:09

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 18:54

He did quit. Yes. Is what it is.

DDD was happy to live the rest of his life being called a quitter.

This attitude is less than pathetic. Who do you think you are? Dubois would melt your head with a slap. The man showed intelligence looking after himself while doing his job.

He'll be called a quitter for the rest of his life. It's there on film. His own free will.

McClellan could've carried on but probably would've died, so 'quit' instead. Maybe it's a not nice word but that's what's happened, the footage shows this.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 04:55

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:09

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 18:54

He did quit. Yes. Is what it is.

DDD was happy to live the rest of his life being called a quitter.

This attitude is less than pathetic. Who do you think you are? Dubois would melt your head with a slap. The man showed intelligence looking after himself while doing his job.

He'll be called a quitter for the rest of his life. It's there on film. His own free will.

McClellan could've carried on but probably would've died, so 'quit' instead. Maybe it's a not nice word but that's what's happened, the footage shows this.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 06:39

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 04:55

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:09

This attitude is less than pathetic. Who do you think you are? Dubois would melt your head with a slap. The man showed intelligence looking after himself while doing his job.

He'll be called a quitter for the rest of his life. It's there on film. His own free will.

McClellan could've carried on but probably would've died, so 'quit' instead. Maybe it's a not nice word but that's what's happened, the footage shows this.

I agree.

Quitting is a fact. You can argue the ways and wherefores, but Dubois decided to quit.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 05:53

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 04:55

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:09

This attitude is less than pathetic. Who do you think you are? Dubois would melt your head with a slap. The man showed intelligence looking after himself while doing his job.

He'll be called a quitter for the rest of his life. It's there on film. His own free will.

McClellan could've carried on but probably would've died, so 'quit' instead. Maybe it's a not nice word but that's what's happened, the footage shows this.

Your obviously very insecure to be calling professional fighters quitters. I pity you and so does any other man whose been in a ring. Gimp.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 08:06

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 05:53

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 04:55
He'll be called a quitter for the rest of his life. It's there on film. His own free will.

McClellan could've carried on but probably would've died, so 'quit' instead. Maybe it's a not nice word but that's what's happened, the footage shows this.

Your obviously very insecure to be calling professional fighters quitters. I pity you and so does any other man whose been in a ring. Gimp.

normally rate your posts tommy, but calling someone insecure cos you dont agree with them is the weakest option in regards to an internet debate.

Cyclops wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 04:14

nfc90210 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:56 This video perfectly illustrates why eye injuries in combat sports are no joke.

I like Michael Bisping but he's a lunatic. Going blind in one eye due to injuries sustained in fights and then, rather than retiring, deciding to cheat on eye tests so that you could continue fighting is insane. It demonstrates the "warrior mentality", but is that really what we want from fighters? Doing what Dubois is the humane and sensible thing.

Though in the defense of the commissions, while Bisping went blind in the eye during his career I don't think he actually had it removed till after he retired.

Bloody hell.

Cyclops wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 08:21

Steveh583 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 08:06

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 05:53

Your obviously very insecure to be calling professional fighters quitters. I pity you and so does any other man whose been in a ring. Gimp.

normally rate your posts tommy, but calling someone insecure cos you dont agree with them is the weakest option in regards to an internet debate.

To be fair, your reply does make you sound a wee bit insecure mate.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 08:06

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 05:53

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 04:55
He'll be called a quitter for the rest of his life. It's there on film. His own free will.

McClellan could've carried on but probably would've died, so 'quit' instead. Maybe it's a not nice word but that's what's happened, the footage shows this.

Your obviously very insecure to be calling professional fighters quitters. I pity you and so does any other man whose been in a ring. Gimp.

normally rate your posts tommy, but calling someone insecure cos you dont agree with them is the weakest option in regards to an internet debate.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 08:27

Cyclops wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 04:14

nfc90210 wrote: ↑30 Nov 2020, 19:56 This video perfectly illustrates why eye injuries in combat sports are no joke.

I like Michael Bisping but he's a lunatic. Going blind in one eye due to injuries sustained in fights and then, rather than retiring, deciding to cheat on eye tests so that you could continue fighting is insane. It demonstrates the "warrior mentality", but is that really what we want from fighters? Doing what Dubois is the humane and sensible thing.

Though in the defense of the commissions, while Bisping went blind in the eye during his career I don't think he actually had it removed till after he retired.

Bloody hell.

Bispings hips need to be replaced too. If you listen to his podcasts and see him on UFC commentary he is the happiest guy you'll see. He takes it all as a badge of honour.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 08:41

Cyclops wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 08:21

Steveh583 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 08:06
normally rate your posts tommy, but calling someone insecure cos you dont agree with them is the weakest option in regards to an internet debate.

To be fair, your reply does make you sound a wee bit insecure mate.

you understand I wasn't the OP he was quoting right?