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Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 13:23
by Old bones Ian
gilgamesh wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 12:08
Old bones Ian wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 03:43
gilgamesh wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 03:25 Ironic that this thread is in the British section when you guys threw beer bottles at him for beating Alan Minter.
Show some respect to other posters please.
Just stating a fact.
Again show respect, that is what I'm asking for. Thanks

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 13:32
by high tower 1
He had chest pains ?

I thought it could have been that hard career catching up on him but doesn’t sound like it.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 13:39
by THEBUTCH

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 13:46
by gilgamesh
Old bones Ian wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 13:23
gilgamesh wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 12:08
Old bones Ian wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 03:43

Show some respect to other posters please.
Just stating a fact.
Again show respect, that is what I'm asking for. Thanks
Wasn't saying it to be disrespectful.

Glad Hagler is revered now by the fans as well he should be. One of the all time greatest Middleweight Champions without question. Probably universally Top 5, most people would have him Top 3 amongst Middleweight Champions I'd think.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 14:05
by Jimmy2020
Tarquin Tarpaulin IV wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 13:22 From the Mail Online: Anti-vaxxers hijack boxing legend Marvin Hagler's death after rival Tommy Hearns said he was 'in ICU fighting after-effects of vaccine': Boxer's family says 66-year-old actually died of natural causes at home.

Hagler's son James told TMZ his father was rushed to hospital with chest pains and was experiencing trouble breathing before dying about four hours later.

Tommy Hearns posts: 'Our love and respect to Marvin and his family, this is not an anti vaccine campaign.. it's outrageous to have that in mind during the passing of a King, Legend, Father, Husband and so much more.'
The rumours will continue to fly unless it is categorically stated that he had not received the vaccine in the last few days.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 14:24
by high tower 1
Best middleweight since ray robinson for me. People were talking up Hopkins record over him but I could only see him putting a beating on Hopkins.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 14:48
by DrDuke
RIP, Legend. Never forgotten.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 14:50
by Coco
high tower 1 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 14:24 Best middleweight since ray robinson for me. People were talking up Hopkins record over him but I could only see him putting a beating on Hopkins.
Hopkins would have feigned injury and tried to get the marvellous one disqualified.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 14:52
by DrDuke
Hopkins is overblown and competed in the relatively weak era. Hopkins isn't near to the great Hagler. Hagler would boss Hopkins.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 14:54
by oogiebe
I was a huge Vito Antoufermo fan when he faced Hagler. After that fight (Bullshite draw), I became an even bigger Hagler fan. He gave us so many great memories in an out of the ring. Never forget 'silk pajamas.'

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 14:58
by coghaugen11
If Monzon ruled the 70s, Hagler certainly ruled 5 years of the 80s!

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:07
by Jimmy2020
coghaugen11 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 14:58 If Monzon ruled the 70s, Hagler certainly ruled 5 years of the 80s!
That's a nice way of putting it. I was just going to say that I rate Monzon as the best Middleweight ever.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:08
by Tuan_Jim
This one really hurts. Extremely depressing day for boxing.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:10
by DrDuke
Jimmy2020 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:07
coghaugen11 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 14:58 If Monzon ruled the 70s, Hagler certainly ruled 5 years of the 80s!
That's a nice way of putting it. I was just going to say that I rate Monzon as the best Middleweight ever.
Yeah, Monzon was the best.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:14
by smiling assassin
Jimmy2020 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:07
coghaugen11 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 14:58 If Monzon ruled the 70s, Hagler certainly ruled 5 years of the 80s!
That's a nice way of putting it. I was just going to say that I rate Monzon as the best Middleweight ever.
I must of missed something about monzon, the fights I’ve seen of his I’ve not been impressed. He wasn’t even in a great era unlike Hagler.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:22
by DrDuke
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:14
Jimmy2020 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:07
coghaugen11 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 14:58 If Monzon ruled the 70s, Hagler certainly ruled 5 years of the 80s!
That's a nice way of putting it. I was just going to say that I rate Monzon as the best Middleweight ever.
I must of missed something about monzon, the fights I’ve seen of his I’ve not been impressed. He wasn’t even in a great era unlike Hagler.
Monzon's era was great. Double wins over Benvenuti, Griffith and Valdez along with the schooling of Briscoe were bigger, than the best achievements of the great Hagler.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:24
by oogiebe
DrDuke wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:22
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:14
Jimmy2020 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:07

That's a nice way of putting it. I was just going to say that I rate Monzon as the best Middleweight ever.
I must of missed something about monzon, the fights I’ve seen of his I’ve not been impressed. He wasn’t even in a great era unlike Hagler.
Monzon's era was great. Double wins over Benvenuti, Griffith and Valdez along with the schooling of Briscoe were bigger, than the best achievements of the great Hagler.
I have Monzon number 1. One of my favorite fighters ever.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:25
by DrDuke
oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:24
DrDuke wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:22
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:14

I must of missed something about monzon, the fights I’ve seen of his I’ve not been impressed. He wasn’t even in a great era unlike Hagler.
Monzon's era was great. Double wins over Benvenuti, Griffith and Valdez along with the schooling of Briscoe were bigger, than the best achievements of the great Hagler.
I have Monzon number 1. One of my favorite fighters ever.
Yeah, I remember, that we agree on this.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:34
by Twinkle Toes
A machine. A lot of modern fighters could learn a lot by taking a look at Hagler and how he went about his business.

Huge loss for the boxing world.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:35
by JC
A legend. Would have been great in any era.

I had a VHS of the fab four fights that I must have watched a hundred times.

RIP

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:44
by coghaugen11
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:14
Jimmy2020 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:07
coghaugen11 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 14:58 If Monzon ruled the 70s, Hagler certainly ruled 5 years of the 80s!
That's a nice way of putting it. I was just going to say that I rate Monzon as the best Middleweight ever.
I must of missed something about monzon, the fights I’ve seen of his I’ve not been impressed. He wasn’t even in a great era unlike Hagler.
If you know what you’re looking at, Monzon mastered distance, timing and ring generalship better than any fighter in history.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:46
by coghaugen11
Bennie Briscoe would’ve battered Bernard Hopkins (probably out of the ring). B-Hop had enough trouble with Antwun Echols (and he couldn’t lace Bennie’s boots).

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 15:50
by smiling assassin
DrDuke wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:22
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:14
Jimmy2020 wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:07

That's a nice way of putting it. I was just going to say that I rate Monzon as the best Middleweight ever.
I must of missed something about monzon, the fights I’ve seen of his I’ve not been impressed. He wasn’t even in a great era unlike Hagler.
Monzon's era was great. Double wins over Benvenuti, Griffith and Valdez along with the schooling of Briscoe were bigger, than the best achievements of the great Hagler.
Sorry my mistake his era was full of greats but he did not fight them all in their prime. My dad always said the Valdez fight should of happened years before. Benvenuti was past his best. I’m not saying people shouldn’t rate him as the best MW just that I don’t think he looked spectacular.

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 16:18
by coghaugen11
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:50
DrDuke wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:22
smiling assassin wrote: 14 Mar 2021, 15:14

I must of missed something about monzon, the fights I’ve seen of his I’ve not been impressed. He wasn’t even in a great era unlike Hagler.
Monzon's era was great. Double wins over Benvenuti, Griffith and Valdez along with the schooling of Briscoe were bigger, than the best achievements of the great Hagler.
Sorry my mistake his era was full of greats but he did not fight them all in their prime. My dad always said the Valdez fight should of happened years before. Benvenuti was past his best. I’m not saying people shouldn’t rate him as the best MW just that I don’t think he looked spectacular.
He didn’t look spectacular. That’s why he’s so good!

He didn’t need to go all wild with Briscoe from the opening bell leaving himself all open etc

Re: The Marvelous One has died

Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 16:24
by keirw
Sad news.

Great man, great fighter.

RIP