Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin - Who wins?

[oogiebe]

As you say, dear God of Arguments.

I asked you before about Walcott/Marciano (based on your own posts regarding a said fighter winning by ko after being behind) and you've resorted to childish responses. Care to take it on? or are we done here?

I hinted to the irrelevance of that example, but you didn't try to prove me wrong, you instead resorted to childish responses and passionately fornicated with your new friend.

Let me try to 'dumb' this down for you.

You posted that Usyk's win over Chis was more impressive than Whyte's. I asked your view of Marciano/Walcott.
Seeing that it's too confusing for you to see the relevance...
Would you say that Charles' win over Walcott was more impressive than Marciano's?

[margaret thatcher]

usyk for me beat chisora comfortably by several rounds, whyte ended chis with a bang but also had more trouble with him....imo losing the first fight and being hurt bad a number of times, and being down in the second until the big finish

if you rate ko > decision, then no doubt whyte was better. but going on overall trouble they had, i think whyte had bigger struggles vs chizzy

[margaret thatcher]

and of course, with usyk's points scoring style and lack of power, if you rate performances on stoppages you aint gonna rate him much!

[margaret thatcher]

andy and dill are similar levels, sure andy beat josh but he couldnt even seperate himself from joe parker when in 'shape'. and 'in shape' andy got hurt and dropped by chris and could never put a dent in him

the aj fight hugely flatters him imo, everything else has been nothing near that level, before or after.

but anyway, if someone do rate andy really high, then weird to be so disgusted with whyte possibly fighting a guy who just dropped his elite ass and hurt him bad, and was never even remotely hurt by his huge power and super speed. surely if andy was in trouble and couldnt hurt arreola, then inferior dill should have a real battle on his hands

[DrDuke]

I asked you before about Walcott/Marciano (based on your own posts regarding a said fighter winning by ko after being behind) and you've resorted to childish responses. Care to take it on? or are we done here?

I hinted to the irrelevance of that example, but you didn't try to prove me wrong, you instead resorted to childish responses and passionately fornicated with your new friend.

Let me try to 'dumb' this down for you.

You posted that Usyk's win over Chis was more impressive than Whyte's. I asked your view of Marciano/Walcott.
Seeing that it's too confusing for you to see the relevance...
Would you say that Charles' win over Walcott was more impressive than Marciano's?

It depends on the fights themselves. In this particular case it's not very fair to judge, because I haven't watched the full fight of Charles-Walcott. Anyway, it's not correct to compare those fighters with Whyte and especially Chisora in any case.

[Counter-puncher]

That's it, Usyk-Chisora bout was less competetive overall, than the Whyte-Chisora bout.

You mean apart from the bit where one of them got knocked out?

seriously? you're citing a closing knockout finish, to, what? suggest somehow that the KO means it wasn't a competitive fight? at the end of a fight where they beat the crap out of each other from the start.. compared to Chisora having one whole round of pressure and then getting totally dominated?

have i misunderstood you here? if not, that's the crappest bit of equivocation i've seen all week

[mickey1975]

The original argument was who had the most impressive win over Chisora, Whyte or Usyk? My argument is that knocking someone clean out in a close fight is a lot more impressive than having a close points decision.

It wasn't close on my card, at all.

[mickey1975]

The original argument was who had the most impressive win over Chisora, Whyte or Usyk? My argument is that knocking someone clean out in a close fight is a lot more impressive than having a close points decision.

It wasn't close on my card, at all.

Do you think Usyk's win was more impressive than Whyte's?

Yes.

[mickey1975]

Do you think Usyk's win was more impressive than Whyte's?

Yes.

Ok, which win over Kevin Johnson was more impressive, Fury's or Joshua's?

Joshua's.

[DrDuke]

The original argument was who had the most impressive win over Chisora, Whyte or Usyk? My argument is that knocking someone clean out in a close fight is a lot more impressive than having a close points decision.

If it was close for you in the Usyk bout, than you're as good as tony bellend.

[DrDuke]

The original argument was who had the most impressive win over Chisora, Whyte or Usyk? My argument is that knocking someone clean out in a close fight is a lot more impressive than having a close points decision.

If it was close for you in the Usyk bout, than you're as good as tony bellend.

I had Usyk winning, but it was a fairly close fight.

So just to clarify, you think Usyk, based on beating Chisora is more impressive than Whyte beating Parker, Povetkin, Helenius, Rivas and Chisora?

Not only on this. Judging Usyk at HW only by Chisora fight is even dumber than calling Usyk-Chisora close. CWs like Briedis and Gassiev are natural HWs, who cut weight to make CW limit. Like Usyk himself. You gotta be a true Whyte fan or just another bizarro, if Whyte impresses ya more than Usyk.

[DrDuke]

I had Usyk winning, but it was a fairly close fight.

So just to clarify, you think Usyk, based on beating Chisora is more impressive than Whyte beating Parker, Povetkin, Helenius, Rivas and Chisora?

Not only on this. Judging Usyk at HW only by Chisora fight is even dumber than calling Usyk-Chisora close. CWs like Briedis and Gassiev are natural HWs, who cut weight to make CW limit. Like Usyk himself. You gotta be a true Whyte fan or just another bizarro, if Whyte impresses ya more than Usyk.

I don't like Whyte at all and I am convinced Usyk will beat Joshua and Fury, but I'm unbiased, not like you.

Lol, where am I biased? Or that's just no more argiments, so there's "no, it's just you biased!!!"?

[DrDuke]

I don't like Whyte at all and I am convinced Usyk will beat Joshua and Fury, but I'm unbiased, not like you.

Lol, where am I biased? Or that's just no more argiments, so there's "no, it's just you biased!!!"?

You're either biased, delusional or as thick as mince.

No arguments indeed, just some ad hominem cryings.

[DrDuke]

You're either biased, delusional or as thick as mince.

No arguments indeed, just some ad hominem cryings.

I've tried being rational with you and it didn't work. BoxRec, TBRB and Ring Magazine all rate Whyte higher than Usyk and Joyce. Which independent boxing ratings agree with you?

So, I should agree with somebody to be unbiased. Bruh, stop, please.

[oogiebe]

Curious who folks would pick between Whyte and Usyk.

[margaret thatcher]

usyk did the better job overall on chizz for me, but whyte did a much more explosive ending --at least on his 2nd try

have we really had all that arguing just over that question

[oogiebe]

usyk did the better job overall on chizz for me, but whyte did a much more explosive ending --at least on his 2nd try

have we really had all that arguing just over that question

No idea. Just posed some Jamamb like followup questions and the whole thing went awry.

[KiwiRider]

Uysk by savage KO.

[oogiebe]

Uysk by savage KO.

[KiwiRider]

Uysk by savage KO.

If Povetkin can do it, Uysk can easily do it.
I even think Arreola has a chance, especially if he keeps showing us he is training properly

[margaret thatcher]

usyk did the better job overall on chizz for me, but whyte did a much more explosive ending --at least on his 2nd try

have we really had all that arguing just over that question

No idea. Just posed some Jamamb like followup questions and the whole thing went awry.

ah yes, the goat, you are learning well my friend

[oogiebe]

usyk did the better job overall on chizz for me, but whyte did a much more explosive ending --at least on his 2nd try

have we really had all that arguing just over that question

No idea. Just posed some Jamamb like followup questions and the whole thing went awry.

ah yes, the goat, you are learning well my friend

[DrDuke]

Curious who folks would pick between Whyte and Usyk.

Today I'd confidently pick only Fury over Usyk.

[margaret thatcher]

aj vs usyk looks up next, aj will poleaxe him , may take a few rounds but he's gonna beat uzzy

[gregregegg]

aj vs usyk looks up next, aj will poleaxe him , may take a few rounds but he's gonna beat uzzy

Hearing Eddie talk about it I’m not so confident. If it was next eddie would of reverted to hyping it by now (unless this is negotiation strategy)..

he talked about Ruiz 3 in the states, looked horny for that, also mentioned whyte in uk and Ortiz.... I think he is scared usyk will accept the wbo split no rematch clauses then and that’s AJ/eddies biggest fear.

if usyk gives a rematch clause I hope it’s incredibly generous to usyk (75-25 usyks way kinda generous).