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Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 05:11
by Bercli
samwbr wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 18:43
mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 18:39
rd350lc wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 18:35
Same as how can going to Eton can give you some sort of reality of what the average working fella has to endure in every day struggles ?
Does a mayor run a city? Ours works in the local petrol station.
Its becoming a devolved authority hence the election. Decision making removed from Westminster.
Try telling that to Londoners
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 06:18
by leelee88
He could have run as a independent with his profile but joined the grift he must know about it surely can't be that naive. won't surprise me if he won in my city lots of turkeys
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 06:20
by mickey1975
leelee88 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 06:18
He could have run as a independent with his profile but joined the grift he must know about it surely can't be that naive. won't surprise me if he won in my city lots of turkeys
His in laws are very wealthy, successful business people, he runs his business plus he has the profile. You're stereotyping him when it couldn't be further from the truth.
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 06:26
by leelee88
mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 06:20
leelee88 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 06:18
He could have run as a independent with his profile but joined the grift he must know about it surely can't be that naive. won't surprise me if he won in my city lots of turkeys
His in laws are very wealthy, successful business people, he runs his business plus he has the profile. You're stereotyping him when it couldn't be further from the truth.
Please let us know what you think reform will do for the people of Hull? Certainly not stereotyping him hes representing Reform a party that involves transferring wealth to the richest. It does make sense with what you said and my sister works in accounts. Do you think he break the Reform mold and do something for the people or will we all get flags to keep us excited
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 06:45
by leelee88
I have stereotyped him I apologise just disappoints me more because the last bit of everything is slowly been taken but I get so angry because I see straight through frog face but I need to stop myself commenting had a lot of eyestrain lately
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 06:54
by mickey1975
leelee88 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 06:26
mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 06:20
leelee88 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 06:18
He could have run as a independent with his profile but joined the grift he must know about it surely can't be that naive. won't surprise me if he won in my city lots of turkeys
His in laws are very wealthy, successful business people, he runs his business plus he has the profile. You're stereotyping him when it couldn't be further from the truth.
Please let us know what you think reform will do for the people of Hull? Certainly not stereotyping him hes representing Reform a party that involves transferring wealth to the richest. It does make sense with what you said and my sister works in accounts. Do you think he break the Reform mold and do something for the people or will we all get flags to keep us excited
I'm not from Hull and have no idea what he brings to the city, nor am I interested in politics. I do have mutual friends with Campbell and was just pointing out that there's a lot more to him and his 'people' than just being an ex boxer.
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 14:44
by rd350lc
garethhop wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 02:48
rd350lc wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 18:35
tony1234 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:19
I don't know why getting punched in the head gives him the experience to run a city ?
Same as how can going to Eton can give you some sort of reality of what the average working fella has to endure in every day struggles ?
Just the fellas then?
It's amazing how people get so offended at the slightest things nowadays
Must be quite a sad old time with that hanging over you all the time .
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 15:49
by Alba
mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 06:20
leelee88 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 06:18
He could have run as a independent with his profile but joined the grift he must know about it surely can't be that naive. won't surprise me if he won in my city lots of turkeys
His in laws are very wealthy, successful business people, he runs his business plus he has the profile. You're stereotyping him when it couldn't be further from the truth.
What buisness do his parents run? And what buisness has he set up since retirement
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 16:02
by mickey1975
Alba wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 15:49
mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 06:20
leelee88 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 06:18
He could have run as a independent with his profile but joined the grift he must know about it surely can't be that naive. won't surprise me if he won in my city lots of turkeys
His in laws are very wealthy, successful business people, he runs his business plus he has the profile. You're stereotyping him when it couldn't be further from the truth.
What buisness do his parents run? And what buisness has he set up since retirement
It's called Dutch Imports, plus a property company. Campbell owns a trendy fitness club.
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 17:33
by CaptainSpacerod
SamWise72 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 18:10
handsofstone wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 10:51
Would be the last person you'd expect to get into politics especially reform llf, in saying that the countries on it's arse, Farage can't be worse than Starmer or the Tories
I think if you look at what's going on in the States, you'll see he definitely could be. Wouldn't it be nice to be offered a good alternative instead
One war with potentially dangerous geopolitical ramifications ended, another one possibly ending soon, other world leaders being shamed into finally meeting their security obligations, markets up, economic confidence up, a clear mandate from the people to get rid of wokeism and bureaucratic waste …… we’d be wise to follow the path US voters have taken
Regardless, good luck to Luke, always seemed like a nice kid and spoke with thought and insight in interviews
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 17:37
by margaret thatcher
trump has been president in his second term for a f@cking month, it could go great or be utter shite, way to early to conclude
as for luke, at least see what has to say about what he'd do in hull before writing him off as wrongheaded
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 19:07
by dookus
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 17:33
One war with potentially dangerous geopolitical ramifications ended,
That situation is very far from over and most of the work leading up to the ceasefire was done by the Biden administration and Arab powers
another one possibly ending soon,
Possibly is the operative word in that sentence, and given that it really started in 2014, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it doesn't start back up in the near future
other world leaders being shamed into finally meeting their security obligations,
granted
markets up,
Wrong
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/ ... ion-boost/
economic confidence up,
Also wrong
https://www.voanews.com/a/us-consumer-c ... 87763.html
a clear mandate from the people to get rid of wokeism and bureaucratic waste
He won by 49.8% to 48.3%, so hardly a landslide, and much of that was driven by a) the cost of living and b) perceived need to reduce immigration, rather than by any supposed desire to "get rid of wokeism and bureaucratic waste"
He's already admitted he can't do very much about the cost of living despite having campaigned on that promise:
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/01/nx-s1-52 ... -inflation
...and as to immigration, Biden deported twice as many people as Trump did in his first term:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/22/us/t ... tions.html
...so unless Trump intends to seriously cripple the raft of industries that depend on mass migrant labour in the US (e.g. hospitality, construction, agriculture) I doubt he will do very much more, if anything, than what is already being done.
As for reducing "waste" because government is too large and unaffordable: if that is really the aim, why does this new budget
increase the US debt ceiling by 4 trillion dollars?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/d ... rcna191665
…… we’d be wise to follow the path US voters have taken
Going to need a lot more convincing of that. The early signs are not good.
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 20:39
by CaptainSpacerod
You make some good points Dookus tbf
Re Israel I don’t agree. Over a year of fruitless talks had got nobody anywhere and the US was widely perceived to have weakened its stance during the Biden presidency to the real troublemakers here, Iran. Coincidence that a ceasefire is agreed only a few weeks into Trump taking office ? No not for me. Trump left nobody in any doubt, least of all Israel, that a lasting ceasefire was necessary.
Re Russia I can’t disprove your point. Trump shows pragmatism, Russia will not be defeated militarily in Ukraine without crossing a hugely dangerous line in the sand. Let’s stop the bloodshed and huge economic cost now and deal with the geopolitics as best we can.
The markets are up significantly since the date Trump won the election
Consumer confidence: the recent focus on tariffs has no doubt been a big factor in this months steep fall although only amongst democrats and independent voters. I don’t think anyone really expects him to slap huge self defeating tariffs on various countries, it’s just his opening gambit, when these deals are thrashed out properly things will change.
Winning the presidency, both houses and the oooikar vote strikes me as a clear mandate. You’re right to say cost of living was a major factor in his win, it always is, but polls show that a lot of ordinary people are losing patience with identity politics here as well as in the US
Immigration - you’re being a bit mischievous there. quoting the absurdly biased NYT. The impartial and better informed CIS debunks a lot of the left wing media hypocrisy here
https://cis.org/Feere/Fact-Check-Reuter ... iens-Trump
Anyhow that’s enough from me and certainly on a boxing forum, I’d be happy to argue back and forth in a private chat, always good to hear opinions you disagree with.

Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 04 Mar 2025, 10:20
by leelee88
I think Trump will go through with the tariffs because he gets richer by pain and suffering. By about 2 years people will be well downtrodden then it's time for the rubber bullet national guard or army and the fascism style stuff will be an interesting watch.
I love the way things are referred to as left wing now that are not far right. centre right etc now is left amazing how well the properganda as done. And how far right think tanks are used as non biased evidence
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 04 Mar 2025, 12:07
by golden_labrador
What's that quote about an informed electorate being a prerequisite for a functioning democracy? well we definitely don't have that. the ignoramuses have taken the steering wheel.
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 04 Mar 2025, 14:31
by margaret thatcher
markets sure arent up today
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 04 Mar 2025, 16:56
by rd350lc
leelee88 wrote: ↑04 Mar 2025, 10:20
I think Trump will go through with the tariffs because he gets richer by pain and suffering. By about 2 years people will be well downtrodden then it's time for the rubber bullet national guard or army and the fascism style stuff will be an interesting watch.
I love the way things are referred to as left wing now that are not far right. centre right etc now is left amazing how well the properganda as done. And how far right think tanks are used as non biased evidence
Far right when I was a lad was skinheads and the national front .
Unbelievable how times have changed .
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 04 Mar 2025, 17:02
by Coco
golden_labrador wrote: ↑04 Mar 2025, 12:07
What's that quote about an informed electorate being a prerequisite for a functioning democracy? well we definitely don't have that. the ignoramuses have taken the steering wheel.
Imagine you don't consider the UK or the USA as functioning democracies at the time of the War on Terror?
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 04 Mar 2025, 17:04
by Coco
rd350lc wrote: ↑04 Mar 2025, 16:56
leelee88 wrote: ↑04 Mar 2025, 10:20
I think Trump will go through with the tariffs because he gets richer by pain and suffering. By about 2 years people will be well downtrodden then it's time for the rubber bullet national guard or army and the fascism style stuff will be an interesting watch.
I love the way things are referred to as left wing now that are not far right. centre right etc now is left amazing how well the properganda as done. And how far right think tanks are used as non biased evidence
Far right when I was a lad was skinheads and the national front .
Unbelievable how times have changed .
When Macron sent in the army v the yellow vest protesters, could that have been described as middle of the road?
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 04 Mar 2025, 17:31
by mickey1975
I've just watched Campbell's candidate reveal speech on YouTube. He's definitely got a bit of work to do.
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 04 Mar 2025, 17:37
by leelee88
rd350lc wrote: ↑04 Mar 2025, 16:56
leelee88 wrote: ↑04 Mar 2025, 10:20
I think Trump will go through with the tariffs because he gets richer by pain and suffering. By about 2 years people will be well downtrodden then it's time for the rubber bullet national guard or army and the fascism style stuff will be an interesting watch.
I love the way things are referred to as left wing now that are not far right. centre right etc now is left amazing how well the properganda as done. And how far right think tanks are used as non biased evidence
Far right when I was a lad was skinheads and the national front .
Unbelievable how times have changed .
Now you got the proud boys and Tommy Robinson the proud boys openly supported by Trump because he's like teflon and Farage in the UK is at a similar level to Tommy Robinson just doesn't deem it electable to support Tommy Robinson
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 11 Mar 2025, 13:46
by margaret thatcher
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 20:39
You make some good points Dookus tbf
Re Israel I don’t agree. Over a year of fruitless talks had got nobody anywhere and the US was widely perceived to have weakened its stance during the Biden presidency to the real troublemakers here, Iran. Coincidence that a ceasefire is agreed only a few weeks into Trump taking office ? No not for me. Trump left nobody in any doubt, least of all Israel, that a lasting ceasefire was necessary.
Re Russia I can’t disprove your point. Trump shows pragmatism, Russia will not be defeated militarily in Ukraine without crossing a hugely dangerous line in the sand. Let’s stop the bloodshed and huge economic cost now and deal with the geopolitics as best we can.
The markets are up significantly since the date Trump won the election
Consumer confidence: the recent focus on tariffs has no doubt been a big factor in this months steep fall although only amongst democrats and independent voters. I don’t think anyone really expects him to slap huge self defeating tariffs on various countries, it’s just his opening gambit, when these deals are thrashed out properly things will change.
Winning the presidency, both houses and the oooikar vote strikes me as a clear mandate. You’re right to say cost of living was a major factor in his win, it always is, but polls show that a lot of ordinary people are losing patience with identity politics here as well as in the US
Immigration - you’re being a bit mischievous there. quoting the absurdly biased NYT. The impartial and better informed CIS debunks a lot of the left wing media hypocrisy here
https://cis.org/Feere/Fact-Check-Reuter ... iens-Trump
Anyhow that’s enough from me and certainly on a boxing forum, I’d be happy to argue back and forth in a private chat, always good to hear opinions you disagree with.
some fair points tbh, you might be right about all the identity politics stuff. but 'markets up'?
the us market is losing trillions in days and the big man himself is openly talking recession. it's looking like economic chaos atm
Re: Luke Campbell Retires
Posted: 07 Apr 2025, 06:12
by dookus
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Mar 2025, 13:46
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑02 Mar 2025, 20:39
You make some good points Dookus tbf
Re Israel I don’t agree. Over a year of fruitless talks had got nobody anywhere and the US was widely perceived to have weakened its stance during the Biden presidency to the real troublemakers here, Iran. Coincidence that a ceasefire is agreed only a few weeks into Trump taking office ? No not for me. Trump left nobody in any doubt, least of all Israel, that a lasting ceasefire was necessary.
Re Russia I can’t disprove your point. Trump shows pragmatism, Russia will not be defeated militarily in Ukraine without crossing a hugely dangerous line in the sand. Let’s stop the bloodshed and huge economic cost now and deal with the geopolitics as best we can.
The markets are up significantly since the date Trump won the election
Consumer confidence: the recent focus on tariffs has no doubt been a big factor in this months steep fall although only amongst democrats and independent voters. I don’t think anyone really expects him to slap huge self defeating tariffs on various countries, it’s just his opening gambit, when these deals are thrashed out properly things will change.
Winning the presidency, both houses and the oooikar vote strikes me as a clear mandate. You’re right to say cost of living was a major factor in his win, it always is, but polls show that a lot of ordinary people are losing patience with identity politics here as well as in the US
Immigration - you’re being a bit mischievous there. quoting the absurdly biased NYT. The impartial and better informed CIS debunks a lot of the left wing media hypocrisy here
https://cis.org/Feere/Fact-Check-Reuter ... iens-Trump
Anyhow that’s enough from me and certainly on a boxing forum, I’d be happy to argue back and forth in a private chat, always good to hear opinions you disagree with.
some fair points tbh, you might be right about all the identity politics stuff. but 'markets up'?
the us market is losing trillions in days and the big man himself is openly talking recession. it's looking like economic chaos atm
say there mags, how's the old market doing this fine Monday morn