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[margaret thatcher]

hmmm might be a bug? since i think boxrec ratings have a rule where a guy must be ranked ahead of a guy he just beat

your guys a nice prospect btw

[JCS]

I'm sure this is just an anomaly but this struck me as very odd:

My fighter, 861672, recently scored a TKO1 against 716182 but is ranked still ranked 4 spots behind him. Trying to make sense of it.

Looks like a bug.

[computerrank]

I'm sure this is just an anomaly but this struck me as very odd:

My fighter, 861672, recently scored a TKO1 against 716182 but is ranked still ranked 4 spots behind him. Trying to make sense of it.

I will look into that.

[VSports]

Thank you

[computerrank]

I'm sure this is just an anomaly but this struck me as very odd:

My fighter, 861672, recently scored a TKO1 against 716182 but is ranked still ranked 4 spots behind him. Trying to make sense of it.

I found the bug and corrected it. It will be set live with the next release - that will take some days

[VSports]

I'm sure this is just an anomaly but this struck me as very odd:

My fighter, 861672, recently scored a TKO1 against 716182 but is ranked still ranked 4 spots behind him. Trying to make sense of it.

I found the bug and corrected it. It will be set live with the next release - that will take some days

Fantastic, thank you!

[computerrank]

The corrected release is live now.

[jujigatame]

Did BoxRec abandon the "winner over loser" rule? I see Teo is back over Kambosos now.

[computerrank]

Did BoxRec abandon the "winner over loser" rule? I see Teo is back over Kambosos now.

Kamosos #2 and Lopez #3

[jujigatame]

Did BoxRec abandon the "winner over loser" rule? I see Teo is back over Kambosos now.

Kamosos #2 and Lopez #3

It definitely looked different yesterday. Maybe I just happened to look at a weird time? Do changes like that happen when rankings are recalculated after new results?

[JCS]

Yeah... I saw it as well..

[computerrank]

I improved the program some days ago.

For the daily ratings run over all results in the database now all winner above loser upsets are regarded within 18 months up to any chain length. Currently the maximum chain length is 8 bouts.

Within the instant ratings update caused by any result entered or changed the winner above loser upsets are only regarded for the direct opponents of both boxers involved in the bout (in order to limit the effort).

So there may happen a situation before the new daily ratings run, where a winner may be rated temporarily wrongly below the loser.

[Manrae]

Hello, just wondering why this fighter is still listed as inactive

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/798789

[margaret thatcher]

Hello, just wondering why this fighter is still listed as inactive

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/798789

he announced his retirement after the fight

[Manrae]

Hello, just wondering why this fighter is still listed as inactive

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/798789

he announced his retirement after the fight

Oh wow, I had no idea. What was his reasoning?

[margaret thatcher]

he said its more important for him to work with the russian boxing federation to promote the sport than to be boxing himself

[Manrae]

he said its more important for him to work with the russian boxing federation to promote the sport than to be boxing himself

I see, thanks for the info

[Manrae]

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxR ... ht_Annuals

Why did Deontay Wilder disappear from the 2020 & 2021 rankings?

[computerrank]

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxR ... ht_Annuals

Why did Deontay Wilder disappear from the 2020 & 2021 rankings?

Because Wilder had only clear losses in 2020 as well as in 2021.

[Manrae]

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxR ... ht_Annuals

Why did Deontay Wilder disappear from the 2020 & 2021 rankings?

Because Wilder had only clear losses in 2020 as well as in 2021.

So... why would Muhammad Ali appear in the 1981 rankings? Were his loses in '80 & '81 not "clear"? Does the quality of opponent no longer apply for annual ratings?

[computerrank]

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxR ... ht_Annuals

Why did Deontay Wilder disappear from the 2020 & 2021 rankings?

Because Wilder had only clear losses in 2020 as well as in 2021.

So... why would Muhammad Ali appear in the 1981 rankings? Were his loses in '80 & '81 not "clear"? Does the quality of opponent no longer apply for annual ratings?

Ali only had a clear loss in 1980 and so was not ranked in rhe 1980 annual ratings - no matter, how high ranked his opponent was. Ali had no counting achievements in that year.
But in 1981 he had an only close loss - and so he was ranked in the 1981 annual ratings.

[Manrae]

Because Wilder had only clear losses in 2020 as well as in 2021.

So... why would Muhammad Ali appear in the 1981 rankings? Were his loses in '80 & '81 not "clear"? Does the quality of opponent no longer apply for annual ratings?

Ali only had a clear loss in 1980 and so was not ranked in rhe 1980 annual ratings - no matter, how high ranked his opponent was. Ali had no counting achievements in that year.
But in 1981 he had an only close loss - and so he was ranked in the 1981 annual ratings.

So... the annual ratings are based on that specific year's achievements, yet are still influenced by whatever they were rated at the time?
For example, even though Ali had 0 wins and a "close" loss (according to the official scorecards) in '81 and was coming off of being unranked the previous year... not only makes the top 10, but is also placed over the guy that beat him. Correct?

[computerrank]

So... why would Muhammad Ali appear in the 1981 rankings? Were his loses in '80 & '81 not "clear"? Does the quality of opponent no longer apply for annual ratings?

Ali only had a clear loss in 1980 and so was not ranked in rhe 1980 annual ratings - no matter, how high ranked his opponent was. Ali had no counting achievements in that year.
But in 1981 he had an only close loss - and so he was ranked in the 1981 annual ratings.

So... the annual ratings are based on that specific year's achievements, yet are still influenced by whatever they were rated at the time?
For example, even though Ali had 0 wins and a "close" loss (according to the official scorecards) in '81 and was coming off of being unranked the previous year... not only makes the top 10, but is also placed over the guy that beat him. Correct?

Yes, depend on the achievements in that year. But the winner above loser rule is not regarded there currently.

[Manrae]

Ali only had a clear loss in 1980 and so was not ranked in rhe 1980 annual ratings - no matter, how high ranked his opponent was. Ali had no counting achievements in that year.
But in 1981 he had an only close loss - and so he was ranked in the 1981 annual ratings.

So... the annual ratings are based on that specific year's achievements, yet are still influenced by whatever they were rated at the time?
For example, even though Ali had 0 wins and a "close" loss (according to the official scorecards) in '81 and was coming off of being unranked the previous year... not only makes the top 10, but is also placed over the guy that beat him. Correct?

Yes, depend on the achievements in that year. But the winner above loser rule is not regarded there currently.

Could I see what it would look like for heavyweights if it were? If it's too much trouble, it's fine, I'm just curious.

[computerrank]

Berbick would get Ali's rank and Ali would be just behind him