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Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 14:25
by peter barlow
tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 14:15
I shall keep it for another month - I won`t be happy with the Dillian Whyte card .. especially if thats as good as October gets.
DAZN looks like it may die very quickly; where will Eddie go to then? would SKY have him back??
It wont die anytime in near future outside UK/Ire/USA and boxing its doing well with football rights.
Len Blavatnik owns it, Britains richest man.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 14:59
by tonyevs
I didnt know who owned DAZN.
But I guess these money types are pretty good at turning off a dripping tap.
There are a few billionaires happy to waste money on vanity projects like cycling teams or football clubs, although I not too sure owning a sports streaming channel is so appealing.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:06
by tony1234
peter barlow wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 14:25
tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 14:15
I shall keep it for another month - I won`t be happy with the Dillian Whyte card .. especially if thats as good as October gets.
DAZN looks like it may die very quickly; where will Eddie go to then? would SKY have him back??
It wont die anytime in near future outside UK/Ire/USA and boxing its doing well with football rights.
Len Blavatnik owns it, Britains richest man.
You don't become Britain's richest man by throwing money down the drain
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:20
by maverick23
tony1234 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 15:06
peter barlow wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 14:25
tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 14:15
I shall keep it for another month - I won`t be happy with the Dillian Whyte card .. especially if thats as good as October gets.
DAZN looks like it may die very quickly; where will Eddie go to then? would SKY have him back??
It wont die anytime in near future outside UK/Ire/USA and boxing its doing well with football rights.
Len Blavatnik owns it, Britains richest man.
You don't become Britain's richest man by throwing money down the drain
You no longer need a business to be profitable to have a business of value. It’s a weird dynamic and it’s something that’s becoming more and more common.
DAZN would have planned to make substantial losses and if they were worried about how boxing had performed in the US then they wouldn’t have launched with boxing in the U.K. They’re a big brand in certain countries because of the sports they have. They’re not in the U.K. but I’m sure they have things in the pipeline to change that.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:26
by ShadrachSimmo
Dioufy wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 14:10
ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 13:58
revporl wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 08:03
They need to make it easier to watch on TV, given that a lot of people who didn't have full Sky subscriptions used to watch Matchroom Sky bills on Now TV Roku devices, it's mad that you can't get the DAZN app on Roku in the UK, while you can in the states.
Forgive my ignorance but how does it work getting a subscription and watching through your tv? Do you need the app?
I play it on my IPad and airdrop it to the tv… works great… odd bit of loss of ficus for a few seconds occasionally but then it corrects back to HD quality.
cheers pal. I’m gonna subscribe for a month or 2 see how it goes. This Saturdays card isn’t actually too bad compared to recent tripe.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 17:39
by Dioufy
ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 15:26
Dioufy wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 14:10
ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 13:58
Forgive my ignorance but how does it work getting a subscription and watching through your tv? Do you need the app?
I play it on my IPad and airdrop it to the tv… works great… odd bit of loss of ficus for a few seconds occasionally but then it corrects back to HD quality.
cheers pal. I’m gonna subscribe for a month or 2 see how it goes. This Saturdays card isn’t actually too bad compared to recent tripe.
I’m going! Can’t wait tbh!
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 03:36
by Ruthless-RKO
ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 13:58
revporl wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 08:03
They need to make it easier to watch on TV, given that a lot of people who didn't have full Sky subscriptions used to watch Matchroom Sky bills on Now TV Roku devices, it's mad that you can't get the DAZN app on Roku in the UK, while you can in the states.
Forgive my ignorance but how does it work getting a subscription and watching through your tv? Do you need the app?
You register the subscription via the website.
Then depending on what you have.
Smart tv, go to the App Store, or if you have a fire stick, you download the app on that.
Then open the app and log in to your account and your good to go.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 04:41
by ShadrachSimmo
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 03:36
ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 13:58
revporl wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 08:03
They need to make it easier to watch on TV, given that a lot of people who didn't have full Sky subscriptions used to watch Matchroom Sky bills on Now TV Roku devices, it's mad that you can't get the DAZN app on Roku in the UK, while you can in the states.
Forgive my ignorance but how does it work getting a subscription and watching through your tv? Do you need the app?
You register the subscription via the website.
Then depending on what you have.
Smart tv, go to the App Store, or if you have a fire stick, you download the app on that.
Then open the app and log in to your account and your good to go.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 05:46
by garethhop
"Massive numbers on subscribers"....."Well ahead of where we expect to be"
The only actual detail was that there were twice as many people viewing the Fight Camp shows on DAZN as the last Sky show (Lewis Ritson in Newcastle). And that viewer number will of course be a worldwide viewer number not a UK number.
Let's be straight, if the news on viewers (at the 1.99 price point...) was good, they would a) Release some form of number (i.e. the 1 million viewer numbers that DAZN likes to use occasionally), or b) compare it to last year's Fight Camp or any other popular Sky boxing event.
The latest Eddie Hearn interview on IFL is an extraordinary example of smoke and mirrors from start to end.
Still looking forward to the Leeds and Liverpool cards however :-)
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 06:09
by maverick23
garethhop wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 05:46
"Massive numbers on subscribers"....."Well ahead of where we expect to be"
The only actual detail was that there were twice as many people viewing the Fight Camp shows on DAZN as the last Sky show (Lewis Ritson in Newcastle). And that viewer number will of course be a worldwide viewer number not a UK number.
Let's be straight, if the news on viewers (at the 1.99 price point...) was good, they would a) Release some form of number (i.e. the 1 million viewer numbers that DAZN likes to use occasionally), or b) compare it to last year's Fight Camp or any other popular Sky boxing event.
The latest Eddie Hearn interview on IFL is an extraordinary example of smoke and mirrors from start to end.
Still looking forward to the Leeds and Liverpool cards however :-)
He’s a salesman so I’d expect nothing less.
The fighters that have been signed to Boxxer/Sky will have been given the smoke and mirrors the other way. I listened to a Richard Riakporhe interview and he said that if Sky has a football match on a Saturday evening then it will get 2m viewers so he could have a 1m viewers watching his fight afterwards. Whilst what he’s saying isn’t a lie, it isn’t achievable given the viewing figures boxing had/has on Sky so he’s clearly been fed some rubbish.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 06:22
by handsofstone
Maya Jama missing again this week, I know she missed the Buatsi card but she mentioned that week before, thought she'd be back now, maybe binned or quit??
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 06:24
by Ruthless-RKO
handsofstone wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 06:22
Maya Jama missing again this week, I know she missed the Buatsi card but she mentioned that week before, thought she'd be back now, maybe binned or quit??
Who's confirmed this? that she wont be attending?
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 06:26
by handsofstone
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 06:24
handsofstone wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 06:22
Maya Jama missing again this week, I know she missed the Buatsi card but she mentioned that week before, thought she'd be back now, maybe binned or quit??
Who's confirmed this? that she wont be attending?
Hearn mentioned the line up on ifl yesterday
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 06:42
by NoScoutingReports
handsofstone wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 06:22
Maya Jama missing again this week, I know she missed the Buatsi card but she mentioned that week before, thought she'd be back now, maybe binned or quit??
Wouldn't be surprised if Laura Woods starts to present on a regular basis on DAZN, proven sports presenter and a lot more competent at that role I'd say.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 07:05
by peter barlow
Rumours doing the rounds that DAZN in the process of buying BT Sport and it could be announced soon.
That would certainly shake things up if true.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 07:53
by whiskey
peter barlow wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 07:05
Rumours doing the rounds that DAZN in the process of buying BT Sport and it could be announced soon.
That would certainly shake things up if true.
I didn't think BT sports had any sort of real intrinsic value?
BT buy in the rights to content and just broadcast it.
I can see DAZN being £50 a month once its added rugby and all the other rubbish that a lot of fight fans aren't really interested in.
This was my beef with Sky, you had to pay a huge chunk per annum and that money didn't really go into boxing, it went into lots of other sports. It didn't allow you to buy specific sports (other than F1 racing i think it was.)
Hopefully if they acquire other sports they will sit in their own apps.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 08:15
by Twinkle Toes
Something Hearn didn't deny in his interview with ifl was that Joshua could indeed stay with SKY on their PPV platform but interestingly he also didn't dismiss him coming over to dazn on a PPV set up
I'm guessing that's the only possible way they can fund Joshua on Dazn.
He has also said PPV isn't such a bad model if it is priced right lol - I think we know where all of this is heading
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 08:23
by Scoops
whiskey wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 07:53
peter barlow wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 07:05
Rumours doing the rounds that DAZN in the process of buying BT Sport and it could be announced soon.
That would certainly shake things up if true.
I didn't think BT sports had any sort of real intrinsic value?
BT buy in the rights to content and just broadcast it.
I can see DAZN being £50 a month once its added rugby and all the other rubbish that a lot of fight fans aren't really interested in.
This was my beef with Sky, you had to pay a huge chunk per annum and that money didn't really go into boxing, it went into lots of other sports. It didn't allow you to buy specific sports (other than F1 racing i think it was.)
Hopefully if they acquire other sports they will sit in their own apps.
They won't do that. They are the same as Sky just the only rights in the UK they have is boxing. If they get PL football they'll put the price up to £30 a month and if you just want boxing you'll have to lump it.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 08:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 08:15
Something Hearn didn't deny in his interview with ifl was that Joshua could indeed stay with SKY on their PPV platform but interestingly he also didn't dismiss him coming over to dazn on a PPV set up
I'm guessing that's the only possible way they can fund Joshua on Dazn.
He has also said PPV isn't such a bad model if it is priced right lol - I think we know where all of this is heading
Hmm..
I’m wondering if it’ll be, you can watch AJ on the usual DAZN monthly sub, or alter nicely, as a one off, buy a £20 PPV and not sub.
What did they in US, for Canelo was buy a PPV and get 3 months DAZN.
I have a feeling, AJ will remain promoted by Hearn, but remain a network free agent.
Not being tied down to a network.
He’s a big name and doesn’t need that.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 08:57
by MasterG
I've just canceled but still get it until the 9th September.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 09:36
by Boxerbeetle
Joshua will always be PPV, no matter what platform. Can’t see him moving away from Sky though.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 04 Sep 2021, 03:19
by veriton
Scoops wrote: ↑01 Sep 2021, 05:37
tony1234 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2021, 15:35
I think DAZN have forgotten that they now expect us to pay 7.99 a month for what we got for free with our monthly SKY money and if you only had SKY for boxing then you can cut it off but not if you want the football etc.
This is exactly it. Take October for example, I'd have expected Smith v Fowler to be a normal Sky Sports show.
I used to get this boxing as part of Sky. My Sky bill hasn't gone down since Matchroom left but I'm not cancelling as I watch the football/cricket.
DAZN is now £8 per month and I get one show I would have had included in what I was paying.
I'd happily pay for DAZN (something I didn't have to) if I was getting something I didn't get previously (more shows, shows that would have been PPV) - but I just feel I'm getting my pocket picked for more for the same as I used to get.
If they are going to price it as the same amount as Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+ etc they need more content. Most of the archive fights they have on there are on YouTube anyway and I've never been in to watching boxing where I know the result.
I don't think 2/3 UK shows per month (I'd take York Hall/leisure centres) is too much to ask.
it needs something like bunce's boxing hour, but not sure he could do it now because of the bbc podcasts. at the moment it's sporadic live fights and some really poor extra american content
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 04 Sep 2021, 03:55
by Onetimeonly
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 06:39
MasterG wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 06:00
What did you have to do to cancel? Can you do with via the app?
Logged into my account, hit cancel.
I forgot to cancel mine and just got auto renew for the year. I think Roman/Estrada was the only fight I've watched this year.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 04 Sep 2021, 04:02
by maverick23
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 03:55
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 06:39
MasterG wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 06:00
What did you have to do to cancel? Can you do with via the app?
Logged into my account, hit cancel.
I forgot to cancel mine and just got auto renew for the year. I think Roman/Estrada was the only fight I've watched this year.
You should watch the Warrington show later - some really well matched fights.
Re: DAZN price increase
Posted: 04 Sep 2021, 04:04
by Onetimeonly
maverick23 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 04:02
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 03:55
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 06:39
Logged into my account, hit cancel.
I forgot to cancel mine and just got auto renew for the year. I think Roman/Estrada was the only fight I've watched this year.
You should watch the Warrington show later - some really well matched fights.
Planning on it, I like Josh. Gamer, always have had a soft spot for aggressive guys that can't crack an egg.