Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021

[Bandog]

He didn't even beat a champion to get his belt, it was vacant. And since then he has been hoarding it for years.
I want Jason to beat him so badly because guys like this don't deserve to be called champions. And I'm not usually wishing ill will to fighters. But this guy is truly taking the piss.

He's tried to get fights with Canelo, GGG, Mall Charlo, and BJS. None of them will fight. Am I missing something? The guy is hated on for stupid reasons from nearly a decade ago. There is a reason he is avoided.

Read back through this thread, plenty of examples of him ducking the fights that could actually be made, GGG and Canelo want no part of him because their fan base don't want to see his negative, just do enough to win each round, boring crap.

I'm talking about in recent years. Why won't Charlo fight him? Canelo? GGG? They all have fought guys much worse than Andrade when they could have tried to take his belt. What is he supposed to do? Is "hoarding" a belt when the other champs wont fight, and your mandatory (Mungia) runs away?

[Enlightened-One]

I'm talking about in recent years. Why won't Charlo fight him? Canelo? GGG? They all have fought guys much worse than Andrade when they could have tried to take his belt. What is he supposed to do? Is "hoarding" a belt when the other champs wont fight, and your mandatory (Mungia) runs away?

It's due to a combination of money, the TV networks and lacking credibility.

Andrade has rejected lots of opportunities (i.e. rejected a multi-fight contract with Showtime and also rejected bouts against the following fighters: Jermell Charlo [twice], Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov and Erislandy Lara).

Andrade has an aesthetically displeasing fighting style – he’s ugly to watch, resulting in weak audience viewing figures.

Andrade is not very good at promoting his own events. The only time he garners media headlines is when he invades press conferences of other fighters (i.e. Canelo).

Andrade’s resume is weak (moderately inactive, poor opposition and vacating titles for no valid reason), which means he lacks credibility.

Andrade doesn’t have a fan-base and has no commercial worth. Even Eddie Hearn has admitted that he has lost money staging Boo Boo’s events.

Simply put, Demetrius Andrade is a lifelong member of the “who needs you?” club!

Who would you rather watch/follow? Dereck Chisora or Demetrius Andrade? And I’m referring to the reputations, popularity, quality of bouts, pre-fight build-up, as well as the level of excitement that takes place inside the ring?

A fighter with “a closed mouth” that doesn’t entertain, doesn’t get “fed”!

[Bandog]

I'm talking about in recent years. Why won't Charlo fight him? Canelo? GGG? They all have fought guys much worse than Andrade when they could have tried to take his belt. What is he supposed to do? Is "hoarding" a belt when the other champs wont fight, and your mandatory (Mungia) runs away?

It's due to a combination of money, the TV networks and lacking credibility.

Andrade has rejected lots of opportunities (i.e. rejected a multi-fight contract with Showtime and also rejected bouts against the following fighters: Jermell Charlo [twice], Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov and Erislandy Lara).

Andrade has an aesthetically displeasing fighting style – he’s ugly to watch, resulting in weak audience viewing figures.

Andrade is not very good at promoting his own events. The only time he garners media headlines is when he invades press conferences of other fighters (i.e. Canelo).

Andrade’s resume is weak (moderately inactive, poor opposition and vacating titles for no valid reason), which means he lacks credibility.

Andrade doesn’t have a fan-base and has no commercial worth. Even Eddie Hearn has admitted that he has lost money staging Boo Boo’s events.

Simply put, Demetrius Andrade is a lifelong member of the “who needs you?” club!

Who would you rather watch/follow? Dereck Chisora or Demetrius Andrade? And I’m referring to the reputations, popularity, quality of bouts, pre-fight build-up, as well as the level of excitement that takes place inside the ring?

A fighter with “a closed mouth” that doesn’t entertain, doesn’t get “fed”!

I said in recent years. You are like a broken record. Using the boring fighter excuse is so lame. Using lies like Canelo and Charlo's have done that he is a terrible boxer is even more lame. Floyd had a boring style too, but people paid to hopefully see him lose. The other guys at 160 don't have the courage to take the risk fighting him, and it's not about money.

[Enlightened-One]

I'm talking about in recent years. Why won't Charlo fight him? Canelo? GGG? They all have fought guys much worse than Andrade when they could have tried to take his belt. What is he supposed to do? Is "hoarding" a belt when the other champs wont fight, and your mandatory (Mungia) runs away?

It's due to a combination of money, the TV networks and lacking credibility.

Andrade has rejected lots of opportunities (i.e. rejected a multi-fight contract with Showtime and also rejected bouts against the following fighters: Jermell Charlo [twice], Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov and Erislandy Lara).

Andrade has an aesthetically displeasing fighting style – he’s ugly to watch, resulting in weak audience viewing figures.

Andrade is not very good at promoting his own events. The only time he garners media headlines is when he invades press conferences of other fighters (i.e. Canelo).

Andrade’s resume is weak (moderately inactive, poor opposition and vacating titles for no valid reason), which means he lacks credibility.

Andrade doesn’t have a fan-base and has no commercial worth. Even Eddie Hearn has admitted that he has lost money staging Boo Boo’s events.

Simply put, Demetrius Andrade is a lifelong member of the “who needs you?” club!

Who would you rather watch/follow? Dereck Chisora or Demetrius Andrade? And I’m referring to the reputations, popularity, quality of bouts, pre-fight build-up, as well as the level of excitement that takes place inside the ring?

A fighter with “a closed mouth” that doesn’t entertain, doesn’t get “fed”!

I said in recent years. You are like a broken record. Using the boring fighter excuse is so lame. Using lies like Canelo and Charlo's have done that he is a terrible boxer is even more lame. Floyd had a boring style too, but people paid to hopefully see him lose. The other guys at 160 don't have the courage to take the risk fighting him, and it's not about money.

You keep cherry-picking a particular point I convey in my posts and ignoring the remainder of my thoughts, because you have more confidence attacking something you personally believe to be the “weakest” claim.

However, your consistent and repeated silence on all the other pieces of information that I've conveyed suggests you agree with those points, since you never challenge them.

I’m sorry, I realise historical facts will inevitably offend you, but Floyd didn’t reject lots of opportunities, but Andrade did.

He joined Roc Nation and rejected bouts against several PBC guys. He rejected a multi-fight deal with Showtime. He voluntarily vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification. He also chose to be an inactive fighter.

Everything I’ve written happened and you’ve already seen the proof of these real-world historical events.

And I know that you think you’re being “wise” employing dishonest debating tactics, such as using red herrings to divert the topic of discussion onto “safer ground”, by wanting to discuss Charlo’s flaws instead of Andrade’s, but it simply won’t work.

Demetrius Andrade has burned a lot of bridges and there are lots of people, including many of his own DAZN/Matchroom stablemates, that flatly-refuse to work with him.

Nobody is “terrified” of Demetrius Andrade! They don’t want to face him because it doesn’t make any business sense.

By the time he enters the ring for his next outing on the 20th November, Demetrius Andrade would have faced the following opponents during the previous eight years:

• Brian Rose
• Dario Fabian Pucheta
• Willie Nelson
• Jack Culcay
• Walter Kautondokwa
• Artur Akavov
• Maciej Sulecki
• Luke Keeler
• Liam Williams
• Jason Quigley

What an awesome resume! A real world-beater! A dead-cert first-ballot Hall-of-Famer! No wonder all his rivals are "too scared" to fight him!

[apollo creed]

He's tried to get fights with Canelo, GGG, Mall Charlo, and BJS. None of them will fight. Am I missing something? The guy is hated on for stupid reasons from nearly a decade ago. There is a reason he is avoided.

Read back through this thread, plenty of examples of him ducking the fights that could actually be made, GGG and Canelo want no part of him because their fan base don't want to see his negative, just do enough to win each round, boring crap.

I'm talking about in recent years. Why won't Charlo fight him? Canelo? GGG? They all have fought guys much worse than Andrade when they could have tried to take his belt. What is he supposed to do? Is "hoarding" a belt when the other champs wont fight, and your mandatory (Mungia) runs away?

Tbh I give Andrade the benefit of the doubt bc he was on the verge of fighting BJS but Billy got caught on nasal sprays diet. lol

So , I think he's willing to fight anybody but he's not lucky enough. If Andrade could fight Eubank Jr or Munguia and beat them , he'd get some attention.

[peter barlow]

I wonder if Hearn has options on Quigley if he wins. Because I think there is a chance of an upset here and Andrade has been around a long time and never beaten anyone of note. What's his best win?

For whatever reason the refusal of Charlo, Andrade and Eubank to fight each other is basically keeping the division in gridlock.

[Bandog]

It's due to a combination of money, the TV networks and lacking credibility.

Andrade has rejected lots of opportunities (i.e. rejected a multi-fight contract with Showtime and also rejected bouts against the following fighters: Jermell Charlo [twice], Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov and Erislandy Lara).

Andrade has an aesthetically displeasing fighting style – he’s ugly to watch, resulting in weak audience viewing figures.

Andrade is not very good at promoting his own events. The only time he garners media headlines is when he invades press conferences of other fighters (i.e. Canelo).

Andrade’s resume is weak (moderately inactive, poor opposition and vacating titles for no valid reason), which means he lacks credibility.

Andrade doesn’t have a fan-base and has no commercial worth. Even Eddie Hearn has admitted that he has lost money staging Boo Boo’s events.

Simply put, Demetrius Andrade is a lifelong member of the “who needs you?” club!

Who would you rather watch/follow? Dereck Chisora or Demetrius Andrade? And I’m referring to the reputations, popularity, quality of bouts, pre-fight build-up, as well as the level of excitement that takes place inside the ring?

A fighter with “a closed mouth” that doesn’t entertain, doesn’t get “fed”!

I said in recent years. You are like a broken record. Using the boring fighter excuse is so lame. Using lies like Canelo and Charlo's have done that he is a terrible boxer is even more lame. Floyd had a boring style too, but people paid to hopefully see him lose. The other guys at 160 don't have the courage to take the risk fighting him, and it's not about money.

You keep cherry-picking a particular point I convey in my posts and ignoring the remainder of my thoughts, because you have more confidence attacking something you personally believe to be the “weakest” claim.

However, your consistent and repeated silence on all the other pieces of information that I've conveyed suggests you agree with those points, since you never challenge them.

I’m sorry, I realise historical facts will inevitably offend you, but Floyd didn’t reject lots of opportunities, but Andrade did.

He joined Roc Nation and rejected bouts against several PBC guys. He rejected a multi-fight deal with Showtime. He voluntarily vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification. He also chose to be an inactive fighter.

Everything I’ve written happened and you’ve already seen the proof of these real-world historical events.

And I know that you think you’re being “wise” employing dishonest debating tactics, such as using red herrings to divert the topic of discussion onto “safer ground”, by wanting to discuss Charlo’s flaws instead of Andrade’s, but it simply won’t work.

Demetrius Andrade has burned a lot of bridges and there are lots of people, including many of his own DAZN/Matchroom stablemates, that flatly-refuse to work with him.

Nobody is “terrified” of Demetrius Andrade! They don’t want to face him because it doesn’t make any business sense.

By the time he enters the ring for his next outing on the 20th November, Demetrius Andrade would have faced the following opponents during the previous eight years:

• Brian Rose
• Dario Fabian Pucheta
• Willie Nelson
• Jack Culcay
• Walter Kautondokwa
• Artur Akavov
• Maciej Sulecki
• Luke Keeler
• Liam Williams
• Jason Quigley

What an awesome resume! A real world-beater! A dead-cert first-ballot Hall-of-Famer! No wonder all his rivals are "too scared" to fight him!

You are so full of shit your eyes must definitely be brown. Tell me, give me the dates of all the times he vacated his titles? You are in la-la land dude. Got more than one screw loose. Can we say also that GGG, Mall Charlo, and Canelo ducked him? You mention at least two that Andrade ducked when he wasn't even at the same weight.

[Bandog]

I honestly don't care who beats who, just want to see the best fight the best.

Canelo, Charlo, nor GGG would fight Andrade when they could have. Enough said.

Spence and Craford won't fight. Enough said.

Neither Crawford or Spence will give Ennis a shot. Enough said.

The list goes on and on. Total BS.

[KiwiRider]

What's his best win?

That's a tricky question.
The answer is-no one of real note.
But the guys he has beaten, he has controlled the fight, scored at will, and frustratingly done just enough to ensure a win.
I may have even blocked some of his fights out of my memory like traumatic childhood experiences, but what can I say?
I like vans and lollies, its a double threat.

[Enlightened-One]

I said in recent years. You are like a broken record. Using the boring fighter excuse is so lame. Using lies like Canelo and Charlo's have done that he is a terrible boxer is even more lame. Floyd had a boring style too, but people paid to hopefully see him lose. The other guys at 160 don't have the courage to take the risk fighting him, and it's not about money.

You keep cherry-picking a particular point I convey in my posts and ignoring the remainder of my thoughts, because you have more confidence attacking something you personally believe to be the “weakest” claim.

However, your consistent and repeated silence on all the other pieces of information that I've conveyed suggests you agree with those points, since you never challenge them.

I’m sorry, I realise historical facts will inevitably offend you, but Floyd didn’t reject lots of opportunities, but Andrade did.

He joined Roc Nation and rejected bouts against several PBC guys. He rejected a multi-fight deal with Showtime. He voluntarily vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification. He also chose to be an inactive fighter.

Everything I’ve written happened and you’ve already seen the proof of these real-world historical events.

And I know that you think you’re being “wise” employing dishonest debating tactics, such as using red herrings to divert the topic of discussion onto “safer ground”, by wanting to discuss Charlo’s flaws instead of Andrade’s, but it simply won’t work.

Demetrius Andrade has burned a lot of bridges and there are lots of people, including many of his own DAZN/Matchroom stablemates, that flatly-refuse to work with him.

Nobody is “terrified” of Demetrius Andrade! They don’t want to face him because it doesn’t make any business sense.

By the time he enters the ring for his next outing on the 20th November, Demetrius Andrade would have faced the following opponents during the previous eight years:

• Brian Rose
• Dario Fabian Pucheta
• Willie Nelson
• Jack Culcay
• Walter Kautondokwa
• Artur Akavov
• Maciej Sulecki
• Luke Keeler
• Liam Williams
• Jason Quigley

What an awesome resume! A real world-beater! A dead-cert first-ballot Hall-of-Famer! No wonder all his rivals are "too scared" to fight him!

You are so full of shit your eyes must definitely be brown. Tell me, give me the dates of all the times he vacated his titles? You are in la-la land dude. Got more than one screw loose. Can we say also that GGG, Mall Charlo, and Canelo ducked him? You mention at least two that Andrade ducked when he wasn't even at the same weight.

Clarify the alleged "two" you're referring to and I might repond.

On a side note, have you actually tried Googling some of my claims for yourself?

It feels like I'm teaching a three year old child the alphabet, because it only takes me seconds to prove my claims, but apparently you're intellectually incapable of performing simple child-like research via search engines.

Either that or you're trolling.

I've also provided this information to you before.

Yes, you're definitely trolling.

[apollo creed]

Andrade's best win was against undefeated Vanes Martirosyan in 2013 for the WBO super ww title. Vanes was one of the best super ww fighters at that time.

Maciej Sulecki is another OK-ish win for Andrade.

If Andrade could get Eubank Jr or Munguia and beat one of them, then he'd get some attention.

[Bandog]

You keep cherry-picking a particular point I convey in my posts and ignoring the remainder of my thoughts, because you have more confidence attacking something you personally believe to be the “weakest” claim.

However, your consistent and repeated silence on all the other pieces of information that I've conveyed suggests you agree with those points, since you never challenge them.

I’m sorry, I realise historical facts will inevitably offend you, but Floyd didn’t reject lots of opportunities, but Andrade did.

He joined Roc Nation and rejected bouts against several PBC guys. He rejected a multi-fight deal with Showtime. He voluntarily vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification. He also chose to be an inactive fighter.

Everything I’ve written happened and you’ve already seen the proof of these real-world historical events.

And I know that you think you’re being “wise” employing dishonest debating tactics, such as using red herrings to divert the topic of discussion onto “safer ground”, by wanting to discuss Charlo’s flaws instead of Andrade’s, but it simply won’t work.

Demetrius Andrade has burned a lot of bridges and there are lots of people, including many of his own DAZN/Matchroom stablemates, that flatly-refuse to work with him.

Nobody is “terrified” of Demetrius Andrade! They don’t want to face him because it doesn’t make any business sense.

By the time he enters the ring for his next outing on the 20th November, Demetrius Andrade would have faced the following opponents during the previous eight years:

• Brian Rose
• Dario Fabian Pucheta
• Willie Nelson
• Jack Culcay
• Walter Kautondokwa
• Artur Akavov
• Maciej Sulecki
• Luke Keeler
• Liam Williams
• Jason Quigley

What an awesome resume! A real world-beater! A dead-cert first-ballot Hall-of-Famer! No wonder all his rivals are "too scared" to fight him!

You are so full of shit your eyes must definitely be brown. Tell me, give me the dates of all the times he vacated his titles? You are in la-la land dude. Got more than one screw loose. Can we say also that GGG, Mall Charlo, and Canelo ducked him? You mention at least two that Andrade ducked when he wasn't even at the same weight.

Clarify the alleged "two" you're referring to and I might repond.

On a side note, have you actually tried Googling some of my claims for yourself?

It feels like I'm teaching a three year old child the alphabet, because it only takes me seconds to prove my claims, but apparently you're intellectually incapable of performing simple child-like research via search engines.

Either that or you're trolling.

I've also provided this information to you before.

Yes, you're definitely trolling.

I still want to hear about all the times Andrade voluntarily vacated his belts to avoid guys? This should clear up some confusion. Lol @ trolling. You are like the pot calling the kettle black. You are the best known troll on the forum.

[Enlightened-One]

You are so full of shit your eyes must definitely be brown. Tell me, give me the dates of all the times he vacated his titles? You are in la-la land dude. Got more than one screw loose. Can we say also that GGG, Mall Charlo, and Canelo ducked him? You mention at least two that Andrade ducked when he wasn't even at the same weight.

Clarify the alleged "two" you're referring to and I might repond.

On a side note, have you actually tried Googling some of my claims for yourself?

It feels like I'm teaching a three year old child the alphabet, because it only takes me seconds to prove my claims, but apparently you're intellectually incapable of performing simple child-like research via search engines.

Either that or you're trolling.

I've also provided this information to you before.

Yes, you're definitely trolling.

I still want to hear about all the times Andrade voluntarily vacated his belts to avoid guys? This should clear up some confusion. Lol @ trolling. You are like the pot calling the kettle black. You are the best known troll on the forum.

So you're going to completely ignore the words I've quoted and posts I've previously cited?

You've just quoted one of my posts and ignored every single word I've written.

If you're going to ignore everything I say, then what's the point?

[Bandog]

Clarify the alleged "two" you're referring to and I might repond.

On a side note, have you actually tried Googling some of my claims for yourself?

It feels like I'm teaching a three year old child the alphabet, because it only takes me seconds to prove my claims, but apparently you're intellectually incapable of performing simple child-like research via search engines.

Either that or you're trolling.

I've also provided this information to you before.

Yes, you're definitely trolling.

I still want to hear about all the times Andrade voluntarily vacated his belts to avoid guys? This should clear up some confusion. Lol @ trolling. You are like the pot calling the kettle black. You are the best known troll on the forum.

So you're going to completely ignore the words I've quoted and posts I've previously cited?

You've just quoted one of my posts and ignored every single word I've written.

If you're going to ignore everything I say, then what's the point?

You mentioned Charlo, over and over, 2x ducking, which is mostly BS due to poor management and communication....irrelevant since it was nearly a decade ago.

You mentioned Dervenchenko, which Andrade ducking him was clearly shown to be false, as the video I posted made clear.

You mentioned Lara, who made it clear in the past it was him that didn't want to fight since he already beat him in the amateurs.

You mentioned Korobadov, who wad also at 160 when Andrade was at 154. You can't duck guys at different weights.

You mentioned Benevidez, who is at 168. He's ducking him too?

You don't mention or even aknowledge GGG, Canelo, and Mall Charlo have refused to fight Andrade. Those aren't ducks but the others are? One way street?

Finally, hopefully now you can site specifically the multiple times Andrade volunteerly vacated his belts to duck someone? I won't hold my breath though.

[bobcatbox]

Ahhh yeah. My man JCM is back in action. Gonna tear it up.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Quigley Relishing Chance Of Joining Irish WBO Boxing Lineage

With a world title fight a mere two weeks away now, Jason Quigley is starting to come to terms with the idea of becoming a world champion.

Many have placed the Donegal man as an underdog going into his bout with Demetrius Andrade. It's arguably his toughest task to date facing the challenge of the American.

"I've been visualizing it and I've been going over things," Quigley told Matchroom Boxing. "You get a moment on your own. The rooms quiet, there's no TV the phones off or whatever."

"And you're thinking, 'I have a world title fight coming up.' These things go through your head, 'And the new'; it's definitely something that runs through your mind."

A History of Irish WBO Champions

You only have to look to Quigley's trainer to get a taste of Irish success as far as WBO titles are concerned. Andy Lee famously won the middleweight strap in 2014.

Lee overcame the challenge of undefeated Russian Matt Korobov on that night. An impressive sixth round TKO victory sealed it for the Irish boxer.

It was the first time since 1934 that an Irishman won a world title on American soil, something Quigley will look to replicate on November 19th.



Andy Lee isn't on his own in that regard. Steve Collins has arguably been Ireland's most successful WBO title holder, winning both the middleweight and super middleweight belts.

Back in 1995, Collins beat Chris Eubank in the Green Glens Arena in Millstreet, Co. Cork. While it was a historic night as far as the result is concerned, the build-up will be fondly remembered.

In an attempt to off put Eubank, Collins enlisted the help of a 'guru' who he said was hypnotising him for the fight. It clearly rattled Eubank leading up to it.

This was topped off by Collins listening to music in his corner and staying still as Eubank made his walkout. Buckets of mind games were played by the Irishman.

His rematch with Eubank later that year at Páirc Uí Chaoimh was an epic defense of his super middleweight title and helped to solidify Collins as one of the world's best.



Two years earlier, Eamonn Loughran became the first Irish boxer to win a WBO world title, winning the welterweight strap in Belfast in 1993.

A Champion's Awareness

While it's a unique challenge that Quigley faces later this month, he's aware of what's been done by his fellow Irishman in the WBO ranks.

"Everywhere I go, everything I see is a WBO world title," Quigley said. "Even in the boxing gym in Raphoe, it’s Steve Collins with his WBO belt, it’s Andy with his WBO belt.

"Everywhere I’m looking it’s the WBO belt. Hopefully, it’s not always there and it’s around me as well in pictures up on wall."

His opponent, 'Boo Boo' Andrade, has given Quigley some credit in taking the fight on November 19th. Many believe Andrade was on the cusp of fighting GGG or Canelo.

At 30-0 and undefeated after a decorated amateur background, Andrade is a challenge not many want to face. He's well aware of the threat Quigley brings.

"Quigley was once a candidate to fight Canelo Alvarez," the WBO middleweight champion said in a Youtube livestream with Ring IQ.

"To be able to even step in the ring with me, must have some type of skills, and have some type of hop and be a warrior to step in the ring with me."

[brilo33]

only way i see jason winning this is ko, he does have power to do it , and he is a good boxer, big step up and ask for him , the Tureano Johnson was all wrong for him thought ingle should of pulled him out early but didnt and let him get battered , as jason went to gunho early in that fight , he needs to relax in to this fight with andrade , demetrius isnt unbeatable tho he is on paper he is a very good boxer and will trade when comes on top aswell , i reckon quigley wants to start slow in this fight wait till the 3rd to start really throwing power save that energy,as i dont think ethier have great engines , going quigley rd 7 ko cant go against my man , but i wouldnt bet on it gwan jason

[peter barlow]

Quigley is underrated and Andrade overrated. This one has potential for an upset

[watsupdoc87]

Hoping for an Andy lee sort of night. Gonna be very tough

[margaret thatcher]

Quigley is underrated and Andrade overrated. This one has potential for an upset

what makes you think quig is underrated? how should people rate him? absolutely battered vs gatekeeper johnson and barely scraped by shane jr, also didnt impress me in previous fights and doesnt have a win you can point to that shows he's much of a threat. so its hard for me to give him much chance here

[Enlightened-One]

Blah, blah, blah... nonsense... nonsense... nonsense...

You mentioned Korobadov, who wad also at 160 when Andrade was at 154. You can't duck guys at different weights.

Blah, blah, blah... more nonsense... more nonsense... even more nonsense...

That's a lot of sentences from someone that doesn't perform any research and flatly-refuses to review any evidence I've previously cited that contradicts all those uneducated nonsense claims you've made!

I'll perform a little test to see whether you can read or not!

http://www.wboboxing.com/news/boxing-ne ... -160-belt/

If you ignore this proof, which you've been supplied at least twice before, then you're a f@cking moron!

If you finally concede I'm 100% right on this point, which I almost certainly am, then I'll happily move onto one of the other bizarre nonsense claims in your post and completely decimate that one too...

And I'll do this on a one-by-one basis, until you've finally conceded to being wrong about every single claim you've made!

Are you brave enough to accept the challenge?

[Enlightened-One]

"Derevyanchenko Manager: Andrade Pulled Out of Deal for 12/16"

“We were in the ninth inning of negotiations to fight Andrade and had agreed on pretty much everything,” Connolly said. “We were told by his people that he was ready and that he had agreed. But then, at the last second, he pulled out.

“He claimed he didn’t have enough time [to get ready], but these negotiations took place seven weeks before the fight date. So that’s plenty of time. If you think you’re gonna take the fight, you start training right away.”

“Andrade’s been saying for years that he’s the most avoided fighter and nobody wants to fight him,” Connolly said. “And then the first real opponent he’s offered, he backs out of the fight when we were in the ninth inning of negotiations. So not only is he the most boring middleweight in the world, he’s the most scared middleweight in the world!”

"Andrade ducks Korobov!"

Banner Promotions’ Artie Pelullo, the co-promoter of junior middleweight titlist Demetrius Andrade, petitioned the WBO to give Andrade the shot at Korobov for the vacant title. It is commonplace for the WBO to allow a titleholder from one division to get an immediate shot at the title in the weight class above where they hold the title.

But a funny thing happened on the way to Korobov-Andrade: Andrade’s camp rejected the fight this week, instead electing to remain at junior middleweight to defend his title, even though he has no specific date or opponent lined up just yet while Pelullo battles it out with HBO over his next bout.

The WBO made this announcement on the 3rd October 2014, fourth month after Andrade’s bout against Britain’s Brian Rose.

However, when he rejected the Korobov fight, he decided to remain inactive for another year (16 months of sitting on the side-lines), which resulted in the WBO stripping him of his world title at 154lbs.

"WBO strips Demetrius Andrade of junior middleweight title due to inactivity (due to ducking Jermell Charlo)"

Demetrius Andrade was stripped of his junior middleweight world title by the WBO on Friday because he was inactive, having not fought for the past 14 months (when he received a $200,000 purse to face Brian Rose).

Andrade has not fought since, in large part because he turned down a career-high $250,000 purse offered to him to defend the belt against Jermell Charlo on Dec. 13 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The fight would have kicked off a three-fight contract with Showtime.

Two fights later, Demetrius Andrade was paid $75,000 for the Jack Culcay bout.

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"Ronnie Shields, Trainer Of Jermall Charlo, Throws Cold Water On The Possiblity Of A Demetrius Andrade Showdown: 'Some Things Are Unforgivable'"

At the moment, both Charlo and Andrade are considered the best that the 160-pound division has to offer. To end all debate on who should be crowned the best fighter in the weight class, fans have urged both men to step into the ring with each other. However, according to Ronnie Shields, trainer of Charlo, he advises that fans don’t hold their breath.

Simply put, the fight isn’t going to happen.

“It goes back years before to when Andrade signed a contract to fight his brother Jermell and Andrade was champion,” said Shields during an interview with Fight Hub TV. “Andrade backed out of the fight. Once he did that, they said they’ll never give him an opportunity to make money with them, in the sport of boxing.”

In 2014, a matchup between Jermell Charlo and Andrade was thought to be signed sealed and delivered. Their contest was set to be the co-feature to Amir Khan vs. Devon Alexander at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. Team Andrade was perturbed with what they believed was a low-fight offer to face Charlo.

According to Andrade’s father, Paul, his son was offered a contract of $250,000. Those numbers, however, were deemed unsatisfactory. Instead of pulling out of the fight immediately, team Andrade waited until the week of the fight to do so. Their thought process was that they wanted to give both sides more than enough time to increase the initial offer. Once team Andrade realized that more money was not coming down the pike, they opted to remove themselves from the card.

Although Charlo was found a replacement opponent, he lost a then, career-high payday and the opportunity to fight for a world title. Both Jermell and Jermall have pointed to that infamous incident as the main reason why a showdown between them is unlikely to ever occur.

But while fans believe Jermall Charlo and his team should move past those issues of the past, Shields doesn’t have that same thought process. With a chance to set the record straight on what exactly happened nearly a decade ago, Shields pulled back the curtain on everything that took place behind the scenes.

“Of course everybody wants to see it but some things are unforgivable,” explained Shields. “To me, that’s one of those things. You denied his brother an opportunity to fight for a world title, for no reason. Well, the reasoning was, he left his promoter and went to Jay-Z. Jay-Z didn’t like the fight and told him not to take it so he didn’t take it. That’s something he has to live with for the rest of his life.”

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@ EO

Still waiting......" He voluntarily vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification."

But hey, keep talking in circles to avoid it, and denigrate boxers you don't like to get reactions. It's what Trolls like you do best.

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@ EO

Still waiting......" He voluntarily vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification."

But hey, keep talking in circles to avoid it, and denigrate boxers you don't like to get reactions. It's what Trolls like you do best.

Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?

Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?