Is Demetrius Andrade ducking Janibek Alimkhanuly?

[Enlightened-One]

They keep delaying this purse bid!

Ten weeks would have transpired since Team Andrade were informed of their need to perform a mandatory defence against Zhanibek Alimkhanuly and the new purse bid deadline!

Matchroom obviously aren't interested in negotiating the fight, hence the fact it's going to purse bids, that just keep getting delayed!

[margaret thatcher]

it would be a good fight, hopefully demetrius isnt getting cold feet

[gregregegg]

They keep delaying this purse bid!

Ten weeks would have transpired since Team Andrade were informed of their need to perform a mandatory defence against Zhanibek Alimkhanuly and the new purse bid deadline!

Matchroom obviously aren't interested in negotiating the fight, hence the fact it's going to purse bids, that just keep getting delayed!

Thats laughable reasoning. as if you cant do pursbids over the phone or on skype or via message, or via fornicating mail.

[Enlightened-One]

I have this sneaking suspicion all these delays are to facilitate Demetrius Andrade vacating his WBO world middleweight title, to give him enough time to negotiate an interim championship bout at 168lbs against Zach Parker.

Three weeks ago, Eddie Hearn tried to make the Andrade-Parker bout, but the WBO blocked it, because negotiations were taking too long.

The WBO then demanded that the Andrade-Alimkhanuly purse bid proceed, but they then changed their minds when Eddie Hearn requested an extension to the purse bid deadline to negotiate terms with Zhanibek's handlers.

The purse deadline has been postponed multiple times since then, with the WBO’s justification for these postponements seeming rather weak.

And who’s to say that Eddie Hearn isn’t using all the extra time to negotiate the Zach Parker bout, because he's already admitted on numerous occasions that he really doesn't want to make the Andrade-Alimkhanuly fight?

[Bandog]

It's easy to understand why Hearn doesn't want to make a fight like Andrade vs Alimkhanuly. Casual fans have no idea who Alim is, and Andrade gains nothing from it as far as getting closer to a unification bout.

Imagine if Boots Ennis vs Crawford was ordered? Same thing - Crawford wants to unify, and if he beats Ennis, he is no closer to that goal. Money drives everything. Don't get me wrong, both are great fights, but too high risk low $ reward.

[Enlightened-One]

It's easy to understand why Hearn doesn't want to make a fight like Andrade vs Alimkhanuly. Casual fans have no idea who Alim is, and Andrade gains nothing from it as far as getting closer to a unification bout.

Do you seriously believe that Zhanibek Alimkhanuly is inferior (in commercial or sporting terms) in comparison to the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa?

Those were all the opponents Andrade has faced during his four-year spell being promoted by Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom USA.

[Ruthless-RKO]

It's easy to understand why Hearn doesn't want to make a fight like Andrade vs Alimkhanuly. Casual fans have no idea who Alim is, and Andrade gains nothing from it as far as getting closer to a unification bout.

Do you seriously believe that Zhanibek Alimkhanuly is inferior (in commercial or sporting terms) in comparison to the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa?

Those were all the opponents Andrade has faced during his four-year spell being promoted by Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom USA.

Quigley, Williams and Keeler was more catered to the UK fans at a time where DAZN was beginning to expand here. I think personally. UK fans are more passionate than US fans IMO. The Williams fight, the main event even took place around 11pm UK time although it took place in the US. There was two threads for that fight, one on the current scene and one on the British/Irish

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Apart from Walter, there's no excuse for that one, WBO appointed him after BJS sneezed hot.

Sulecki has fought some decent names and Akavov was only known for 'beating' BJS.

Good thing with Jani is, his last two wins are, not the best, but name opponents. and he's been on ESPN or ESPN+ over the past few years as well. So he's probably been seen.

The fight's gotta be sold in the US.

I do hope the fight happens.

[Bandog]

It's easy to understand why Hearn doesn't want to make a fight like Andrade vs Alimkhanuly. Casual fans have no idea who Alim is, and Andrade gains nothing from it as far as getting closer to a unification bout.

Do you seriously believe that Zhanibek Alimkhanuly is inferior (in commercial or sporting terms) in comparison to the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa?

Those were all the opponents Andrade has faced during his four-year spell being promoted by Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom USA.

He is superior in terms of skill, but even less marketable having only a dozen fights. The other champs at 160 need pressure by fans and abc orgs to unify. Andrade gains very little financially nor is any closer to a unification bout, or one that makes a lot of money in his prime years.

If you can't understand that, maybe someone else can explain. I'm running out of crayons.

[margaret thatcher]

LOLOL

ya alim's not a big name, unlike luke keeler and jason quigley and artur akakov and walter kaudonowaka etc

[Enlightened-One]

It's easy to understand why Hearn doesn't want to make a fight like Andrade vs Alimkhanuly. Casual fans have no idea who Alim is, and Andrade gains nothing from it as far as getting closer to a unification bout.

Do you seriously believe that Zhanibek Alimkhanuly is inferior (in commercial or sporting terms) in comparison to the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa?

Those were all the opponents Andrade has faced during his four-year spell being promoted by Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom USA.

Quigley, Williams and Keeler was more catered to the UK fans at a time where DAZN was beginning to expand here. I think personally. UK fans are more passionate than US fans IMO. The Williams fight, the main event even took place around 11pm UK time although it took place in the US. There was two threads for that fight, one on the current scene and one on the British/Irish

The CS thread was created 27 Mar 2021, 13:31 had 48 Replies 808 views
The B/I thread was created 10 Nov 2020, 09:45 had 140 Replies 3805 views

The RBR thread I created in the B/I section rather than CS, 286 Replies 1848 views.

Apart from Walter, there's no excuse for that one, WBO appointed him after BJS sneezed hot.

Sulecki has fought some decent names and Akavov was only known for 'beating' BJS.

Good thing with Jani is, his last two wins are, not the best, but name opponents. and he's been on ESPN or ESPN+ over the past few years as well. So he's probably been seen.

The fight's gotta be sold in the US.

I do hope the fight happens.

Demetrius Andrade definitely rejected guaranteed opportunities to face Jermell Charlo, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov and Erislandy Lara.

And only last week, Demetrius Andrade attempted to duck Zhanibek Alimkhanuly.

Andrade quote: "I am undefeated and a two-time world champion. Golovkin went through a period where nobody wanted to fight him. I am that guy now -- the man nobody wants to fight!!!"

Demetrius Andrade is being marketed as the most allegedly fearsome and avoided fighter competing today, but yet he has ducked more fights than anyone else competing today.

For the record, do you agree that a bout against Zhanibek Alimkhanuly would be Andrade’s career-best opponent… or at least the very best fighter he would have fought at 160lbs?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Do you seriously believe that Zhanibek Alimkhanuly is inferior (in commercial or sporting terms) in comparison to the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa?

Those were all the opponents Andrade has faced during his four-year spell being promoted by Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom USA.

Quigley, Williams and Keeler was more catered to the UK fans at a time where DAZN was beginning to expand here. I think personally. UK fans are more passionate than US fans IMO. The Williams fight, the main event even took place around 11pm UK time although it took place in the US. There was two threads for that fight, one on the current scene and one on the British/Irish

The CS thread was created 27 Mar 2021, 13:31 had 48 Replies 808 views
The B/I thread was created 10 Nov 2020, 09:45 had 140 Replies 3805 views

The RBR thread I created in the B/I section rather than CS, 286 Replies 1848 views.

Apart from Walter, there's no excuse for that one, WBO appointed him after BJS sneezed hot.

Sulecki has fought some decent names and Akavov was only known for 'beating' BJS.

Good thing with Jani is, his last two wins are, not the best, but name opponents. and he's been on ESPN or ESPN+ over the past few years as well. So he's probably been seen.

The fight's gotta be sold in the US.

I do hope the fight happens.

Demetrius Andrade definitely rejected guaranteed opportunities to face Jermell Charlo, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov and Erislandy Lara.

And only last week, Demetrius Andrade attempted to duck Zhanibek Alimkhanuly.

Andrade quote: "I am undefeated and a two-time world champion. Golovkin went through a period where nobody wanted to fight him. I am that guy now -- the man nobody wants to fight!!!"

Demetrius Andrade is being marketed as the most allegedly fearsome and avoided fighter competing today, but yet he has ducked more fights than anyone else competing today.

For the record, do you agree that a bout against Zhanibek Alimkhanuly would be Andrade’s career-best opponent… or at least the very best fighter he would have fought at 160lbs?

Yes

[Bandog]

Do you seriously believe that Zhanibek Alimkhanuly is inferior (in commercial or sporting terms) in comparison to the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa?

Those were all the opponents Andrade has faced during his four-year spell being promoted by Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom USA.

Quigley, Williams and Keeler was more catered to the UK fans at a time where DAZN was beginning to expand here. I think personally. UK fans are more passionate than US fans IMO. The Williams fight, the main event even took place around 11pm UK time although it took place in the US. There was two threads for that fight, one on the current scene and one on the British/Irish

The CS thread was created 27 Mar 2021, 13:31 had 48 Replies 808 views
The B/I thread was created 10 Nov 2020, 09:45 had 140 Replies 3805 views

The RBR thread I created in the B/I section rather than CS, 286 Replies 1848 views.

Apart from Walter, there's no excuse for that one, WBO appointed him after BJS sneezed hot.

Sulecki has fought some decent names and Akavov was only known for 'beating' BJS.

Good thing with Jani is, his last two wins are, not the best, but name opponents. and he's been on ESPN or ESPN+ over the past few years as well. So he's probably been seen.

The fight's gotta be sold in the US.

I do hope the fight happens.

Demetrius Andrade definitely rejected guaranteed opportunities to face Jermell Charlo, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov and Erislandy Lara.

And only last week, Demetrius Andrade attempted to duck Zhanibek Alimkhanuly.

Andrade quote: "I am undefeated and a two-time world champion. Golovkin went through a period where nobody wanted to fight him. I am that guy now -- the man nobody wants to fight!!!"

Demetrius Andrade is being marketed as the most allegedly fearsome and avoided fighter competing today, but yet he has ducked more fights than anyone else competing today.

For the record, do you agree that a bout against Zhanibek Alimkhanuly would be Andrade’s career-best opponent… or at least the very best fighter he would have fought at 160lbs?

OMG are you fornicating retarded? Again you parrot crap from years ago, that I already explained, and put you in your place about those opponents. You obviously can't comprehend what I wrote. This fight against Alimkhanuly is worthless in terms of Andrade's goal of unifying. Is that so hard to understand? Re-read my posts, put your thinking cap on.

[margaret thatcher]

ya, his talented mandatory challenger is useless, but damn jason quigley and luke keeler were huge fights that did a lot to help him unify

[Enlightened-One]

Demetrius Andrade definitely rejected guaranteed opportunities to face Jermell Charlo, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov, Erislandy Lara. and now he intends to duck Zhanibek Alimkhanuly.

He would have vacated three world titles in order to avoid facing certain opponents.

I created this thread two months ago. It was so incredibly obvious that Demetrius Andrade was going to duck Zhanibek Alimkhanuly from the get-go!

[margaret thatcher]

janibek isnt a big fight, like jason quigley was

[Bandog]

Back one page, Andrade was also being accused of not wanting to fight Zach Parker! (By our two forum trolls)

[Enlightened-One]

Back one page, Andrade was also being accused of not wanting to fight Zach Parker! (By our two forum trolls)

[margaret thatcher]

Back one page, Andrade was also being accused of not wanting to fight Zach Parker! (By our two forum trolls)

not sure what he thinks of parker, but he sure think the jason quigleys and luke keelers of the world are big enough fights

[Bandog]

Back one page, Andrade was also being accused of not wanting to fight Zach Parker! (By our two forum trolls)

not sure what he thinks of parker, but he sure think the jason quigleys and luke keelers of the world are big enough fights

If you were Andrade, what would you do? He's defended 5 times, nearing the end of his prime, and wants big money fights. A $200,000 purse bid against an unknown guy. Peanuts. Definitely a worthy opponent, but it does nothing getting him closer to unifying. Honestly, a convincing win would hurt his chances.

He's tried to get fights with Canelo, GGG, Charlo, Munguia, all big money fights. He's making the right move. I hope to see him fight Benevidez or Plant after Parker. Even if he lost, they would be great fights, and make a lot of money. Canelo will vacate if he moves up. Bitch move, but he can do what he wants.

[Perseus]

Like all the other near weight fighters Andrade is just chasing the Canelo lottery.

Isn't Parker already the WBO mandatory??

[margaret thatcher]

Back one page, Andrade was also being accused of not wanting to fight Zach Parker! (By our two forum trolls)

not sure what he thinks of parker, but he sure think the jason quigleys and luke keelers of the world are big enough fights

Canelo will vacate if he moves up. Bitch move, but he can do what he wants.

bitch move to vacate a wbo title? you said it bruh

[jujigatame]

The answer is "yes" but why wouldn't he when he can take a similar level fight at 168 and put himself in the Canelostakes?

If his goal is to get a big money fight or two before he retires, fighting Alimkhanuly doesn't really get him any closer to it

[Enlightened-One]

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The answer is "yes" but why wouldn't he when he can take a similar level fight at 168 and put himself in the Canelostakes?

If his goal is to get a big money fight or two before he retires, fighting Alimkhanuly doesn't really get him any closer to it

Andrade is not in the Canelo stakes.

Eddie Hearn is trying to pit Canelo against Bivol and GGG, not Andrade.

Do your research and tell me I’m wrong.

Andrade ducked Alimkhanuly, because Parker is an inferior opponent that doesn’t enhance Demetrius’s legacy.

[jujigatame]

He's certainly not in the running for Canelo right now. Any potential fight with Canelo would happen in 8 months at the earliest, maybe upwards of 2 years. But Parker gets him closer to it. Alimkhanuly doesn't. So why bother with Alimkhanuly, in a fight that would likely pay beans?

You can call it "ducking" but it's just good business.

[margaret thatcher]

He's certainly not in the running for Canelo right now. Any potential fight with Canelo would happen in 8 months at the earliest, maybe upwards of 2 years. But Parker gets him closer to it. Alimkhanuly doesn't. So why bother with Alimkhanuly, in a fight that would likely pay beans?

You can call it "ducking" but it's just good business.

ya, janibek doesnt accomplish his goals like jason quigley and luke keeler did

"good business" , lol now there's something andrade's a master at isnt it