Keith Thurman vs. Mario Barrios | FOX PPV - February 5, 2022

[KiwiRider]

This is going to cost $75 USD


Who the heck is going to pay that?
This could be the lowest performing ppv ever.
Thurman makes history

Don’t look at me that way, Kiwi.

You better not be buying this.
It just encourages them to keep ripping us off. Just wait two days and it will be on youtube meaningless fight, no belt, both coming of losses, what does it matter?

[gregregegg]

whats the over under line on buys for this fight? 50,000? probably less honestly.

[Ruthless-RKO]

The price is $74.95

What a rip!!

Thought they’d do $50 or something.

[Ruthless-RKO]

This is going to cost $75 USD


Who the heck is going to pay that?
This could be the lowest performing ppv ever.
Thurman makes history

They just won’t report it.

Have they reported Ortiz-Martin?

[maverick23]

This is going to cost $75 USD


Who the heck is going to pay that?
This could be the lowest performing ppv ever.
Thurman makes history

They just won’t report it.

Have they reported Ortiz-Martin?

Nope. They didn’t report Tank’s either and in fairness never actually report them. If they’re good then they’re ‘leaked’ to media. If not then it takes the media a little while to get a gauge for them.

[Ruthless-RKO]

This is going to cost $75 USD


Who the heck is going to pay that?
This could be the lowest performing ppv ever.
Thurman makes history

They just won’t report it.

Have they reported Ortiz-Martin?

Nope. They didn’t report Tank’s either and in fairness never actually report them. If they’re good then they’re ‘leaked’ to media. If not then it takes the media a little while to get a gauge for them.

There is a rumour Ortiz-Martin did less than 25k even at $39.99

[Ruthless-RKO]

This will be a WBC title welterweight eliminator

[maverick23]

They just won’t report it.

Have they reported Ortiz-Martin?

Nope. They didn’t report Tank’s either and in fairness never actually report them. If they’re good then they’re ‘leaked’ to media. If not then it takes the media a little while to get a gauge for them.

There is a rumour Ortiz-Martin did less than 25k even at $39.99

I saw Rick Glaser post about the 25,000. No idea how reliable he is though.

[ironbeard]

This is going to cost $75 USD


Who the heck is going to pay that?
This could be the lowest performing ppv ever.
Thurman makes history

Don’t look at me that way, Kiwi.

You better not be buying this.
It just encourages them to keep ripping us off. Just wait two days and it will be on youtube meaningless fight, no belt, both coming of losses, what does it matter?

How much is it worth to you?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Thurman-Barrios Could Become WBC Eliminator, Winner Fights Spence or Ugas, Says Thurman

Apparently, Thurman, 33, says he has been told this was always a possible outcome. Moreover, a recent development seems to have strengthened his view on this: the WBC, which he says has nothing to do with his fight against Barrios, got in touch with him about a “weigh-in check.”

“It may have not been announced – You seem like you’re a little unaware,” Thurman said in a conversation with Ray Flores on Instagram Live. “But the WBC approached me for a weigh-in check. And I said, why is the WBC approaching me for a weigh-in check? I don’t hold the WBC title. Mario Barrios doesn’t hold the WBC title. They have no right to check my weight. Unless this fight is a title eliminator, which I knew there was a small possibility of being on the books.

“If it hasn’t been fully announced. This is my way of announcing it. They’ve been coming at me. If they wanna stop checking my weight, you know, if they’re gonna do something else, they’re gonna do something else. But everything in boxing is done for a reason. And I know that the only reason the WBC can request such a thing weeks prior to a fight…is because this fight will be a 12-round title eliminator for the WBC.”

Thurman’s answer was in response to a question about whether or not he would be interested in facing Terence Crawford, the WBO welterweight titleholder. Thurman (29-1, 22 KOs) spoke out recently about wanting to fight any of the titlists in his division before the end of the year. Crawford (, however, unlike Thurman, Spence (27-0, 21 KOs), and Ugas (27-4, 12 KOs), is not affiliated with Premier Boxing Champions, making a fight, theoretically, more difficult to achieve. Crawford, to be sure, is a free agent after his contract with his longtime promoter Top Rank ended last November; Crawford sued his ex-promoter last week for breach of contract and alleging that its head, Bob Arum, is a racist.

Thurman made it clear that if the WBC sanctions his fight against Barrios (26-1, 17 KOs) as an eliminator, Crawford will be in his rearview mirror, at least temporarily.

“So whomever holds the WBC title later this year is most likely who Keith Thurman will be fighting,” Thurman said. “I look forward to that challenge. I look forward to that opportunity. And then after that we can talk about other champions.

“If something was to happen politically where I do not get to forcefully make the WBC champion face Keith Thurman, then obviously, with a contract, with a great fight proposal, I’d be more than open to fighting Terence ‘Bud’ Crawford.”

[Ruthless-RKO]

WBC are very sneaky aren't they.

Turning up at check weigh-ins.

Why not make this a WBO eliminator?

Who's even next in line for Crawford? He wont be due a mandatory until end of the year now will he?

[ironbeard]

Barrios has a decent chance here. I hope that he can overcome the odds and upset the cart.

[Enlightened-One]

By the time he enters the ring against Barrios, the 33-year-old severely injury-prone Keith Thurman would have only won one bout within the last 59 months, which is pretty much five years.

Based purely on resume information alone, if Keith Thurman is remotely close to his prime, then he beats Barrios by decision.

Who knows how Thurman will perform after a 2½ year layoff? But he at least deserves to be considered the betting favourite in this bout.

[margaret thatcher]

Could be a fight to predict a Thurman win but bet on Barrios

[Enlightened-One]

Could be a fight to predict a Thurman win but bet on Barrios

Probably not. The betting odds quite rightly consider this to be a very competitive match-up.

If they'd regarded Barrios as a massive underdog, then I'd place a bet on him, but they haven't.

Most of the betting websites give Barrios a 45% chance of victory, which seems fairly reasonable to me.

[KiwiRider]

Don’t look at me that way, Kiwi.

You better not be buying this.
It just encourages them to keep ripping us off. Just wait two days and it will be on youtube meaningless fight, no belt, both coming of losses, what does it matter?

How much is it worth to you?

Not $75 bucks, that's for sure. But as OT MVP, I might deem to look down on you favorably in the next 11 months leading up to the next election

[KiwiRider]

The price is $74.95

What a rip!!

Thought they’d do $50 or something.

Yes it is incredibly greedy. If the undercard was really decent - then OK it might be reasonable value.
But $75 for our poor American chums is outrageous. Boxing is supposed to be a working man's sport, not back in the hands of the rich where it started out.
I'm sure it will be cheaper for those outside the USA, though realistically it isn't PPV worthy, not even close.

[ironbeard]

You better not be buying this.
It just encourages them to keep ripping us off. Just wait two days and it will be on youtube meaningless fight, no belt, both coming of losses, what does it matter?

How much is it worth to you?

Not $75 bucks, that's for sure. But as OT MVP, I might deem to look down on you favorably in the next 11 months leading up to the next election

Wow!! What a deal!

I don’t pay $75 for anything but the top of the top fights/cards. Often, I don’t pay that due to my PPTV (Putin Propaganda Television) stream, DAZN, Showtime, ESPN+.

[Ruthless-RKO]

It would be an official eliminator.

Not a final eliminator.

[KiwiRider]

It would be an official eliminator.

Not a final eliminator.

How the heck it's anything is dodgy. Thurman should have dropped off any orgs ratings due to inactivity, and Barrios is stepping up after a loss. Its bullsh*t is what it is.

[gregregegg]

It would be an official eliminator.

Not a final eliminator.

How the heck it's anything is dodgy. Thurman should have dropped off any orgs ratings due to inactivity, and Barrios is stepping up after a loss. Its bullsh*t is what it is.

Well, being a crazy PPV you they need a name they can give to it. elliminator fits the bill. seeing as elliminators (non final ones) mean nothing, im sure one of the governing bodys is willing to give nothing away for a couple of percent of a PPV (even if its one of the worst ppvs ever).

[KiwiRider]

It would be an official eliminator.

Not a final eliminator.

How the heck it's anything is dodgy. Thurman should have dropped off any orgs ratings due to inactivity, and Barrios is stepping up after a loss. Its bullsh*t is what it is.

Well, being a crazy PPV you they need a name they can give to it. elliminator fits the bill. seeing as elliminators (non final ones) mean nothing, im sure one of the governing bodys is willing to give nothing away for a couple of percent of a PPV (even if its one of the worst ppvs ever).

Oh yeah, I forgot about the % and the cunning greed of the orgs. Actually I'm now surprised the others aren't putting some tag on this for a cut of the wedge, however tiny it may be

[Bandog]

It would be an official eliminator.

Not a final eliminator.

How the heck it's anything is dodgy. Thurman should have dropped off any orgs ratings due to inactivity, and Barrios is stepping up after a loss. Its bullsh*t is what it is.

I agree. All of the ABC's are corrupt. They promote and protect who they like, try to exploit ones they don't. It reminds me of the US Congress. Lobbyists from rich corporations run everything.

[Enlightened-One]

It would be an official eliminator.

Not a final eliminator.

Dillian Whyte engaged in an official eliminator against Dereck Chisora almost four years before his eventual loss to Alexander Povetkin.

And he never received an opportunity to challenge for the WBC’s world heavyweight title during that timeframe.

So the WBC making the Thurman-Barrios bout as an official eliminator means nothing, other than providing an opportunity for Mauricio Sulaiman to receive sanctioning fees.

Keith Thurman has only won one bout within the last 59 months, which is pretty much five years. He's facing Barrios after 2½ year layoff.

The WBC are rancid to almost comedic proportions!

[Ruthless-RKO]

It would be an official eliminator.

Not a final eliminator.

Dillian Whyte engaged in an official eliminator against Dereck Chisora almost four years before his eventual loss to Alexander Povetkin.

And he never received an opportunity to challenge for the WBC’s world heavyweight title during that timeframe.

So the WBC making the Thurman-Barrios bout as an official eliminator means nothing, other than providing an opportunity for Mauricio Sulaiman to receive sanctioning fees.

Keith Thurman has only won one bout within the last 59 months, which is pretty much five years. He's facing Barrios after 2½ year layoff.

The WBC are rancid to almost comedic proportions!

But they probably like Thurman more than they like Whyte. And the fact that he’s been WBC champion before.