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Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022, 20:27

Bandog wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022, 19:53

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022, 17:14
The injury wasn’t announced until after Ortiz ducked Hrgovic.

Did you see all the post fight videos of Ortiz?

Do some research troll. Go hide now.

Did you see all the post fight videos of Ortiz?

He was punching his chest with both fists, celebrating his win.

Shaking hands and also throwing his arms around lots of people backstage.

There either wasn’t an injury or it was so trivial he never felt it.

That’s why I asked you the question.

And the reason you didn’t answer it, was because you either didn’t even know these things or you didn’t want to admit anything that undermines your own claims.

https://photo.BS.com/manager-d ... il--163242

Bandog wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022, 14:36

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022, 20:27

Bandog wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022, 19:53

Do some research troll. Go hide now.

Did you see all the post fight videos of Ortiz?

He was punching his chest with both fists, celebrating his win.

Shaking hands and also throwing his arms around lots of people backstage.

There either wasn’t an injury or it was so trivial he never felt it.

That’s why I asked you the question.

And the reason you didn’t answer it, was because you either didn’t even know these things or you didn’t want to admit anything that undermines your own claims.

https://photo.BS.com/manager-due-injury ... il--163242

And what is the purpose of the link, other than to prove my original claim about Team Ortiz only choosing to notify the media of their injury after they'd rejected the Hrgovic bout?

I'm a little confused.

Are you trying to agree with me or did you really attempt to prove me wrong, whilst unintentionally citing proof that backs up my claims?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 04:36

Bandog wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022, 14:36

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022, 20:27
Did you see all the post fight videos of Ortiz?

He was punching his chest with both fists, celebrating his win.

Shaking hands and also throwing his arms around lots of people backstage.

There either wasn’t an injury or it was so trivial he never felt it.

That’s why I asked you the question.

And the reason you didn’t answer it, was because you either didn’t even know these things or you didn’t want to admit anything that undermines your own claims.

https://photo.BS.com/manager-due-injury ... il--163242

And what is the purpose of the link, other than to prove my original claim about Team Ortiz only choosing to notify the media of their injury after they'd rejected the Hrgovic bout?

I'm a little confused.

Are you trying to agree with me or did you really attempt to prove me wrong, whilst unintentionally citing proof that backs up my claims?

Read the article, and highlight the part that says he rejected the fight before the injury was found?

As BS.com previously reported, a hand injury has prevented heavyweight contender Luis Ortiz from accepted a potential fight against Filip Hrgovic, which would have been an IBF final eliminator for a mandatory crack at Oleksandr Usyk.

Ortiz, 42-years-old, injured his left hand in last Saturday's fight at the Seminole Hotel and Casino in Hollywood, Florida, when he overcame two knockdowns to score a knockout of former world champion Charles Martin in the sixth round.

On Monday, the IBF gave Ortiz only a three day deadline to agree to take part in a fight with Hrgovic.

According to Ortiz's team, there simply wasn't enough time for Ortiz to be in top form for such a contest.

Hrgovic and his team were looking for the fight to take place on a date in March or April.

"Basically, Luis had a minimal fracture that he should being able to heal without issues, but with something like that he does not want to take any risk," said Ortiz's manager, Jay Jiménez, to George Ebro.

“He is being evaluated, but he cannot fight as early as April, because he would not be in [the best physical condition]. We are not against fighting against Hrgovic, or against anyone, but let it happen with the best conditions for Luis.''

Ortiz would like to secure a fight with his Premier Boxing Champions stablemate, former unified champion Andy Ruiz. Ortiz called for a fight with Ruiz last year, but it never came off.

"I'm not afraid of anyone and I'm ready to fight whoever it is," Ortiz repeated on several occasions, after his victory over Martin.

“I would like Andy Ruiz to accept my challenge, but if not, I will be ready for whoever comes, because nobody wants to fight with a man they call 'old.'"

Bandog wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 09:55

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 04:36

Bandog wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022, 14:36

https://photo.BS.com/manager-due-injury ... il--163242

And what is the purpose of the link, other than to prove my original claim about Team Ortiz only choosing to notify the media of their injury after they'd rejected the Hrgovic bout?

I'm a little confused.

Are you trying to agree with me or did you really attempt to prove me wrong, whilst unintentionally citing proof that backs up my claims?

Read the article, and highlight the part that says he rejected the fight before the injury was found?

I don’t need to refer to any of the text detailed in the article.

The dates of the media announcements do that.

There’s no such thing as a time machine.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 13:47

Bandog wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 09:55

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 04:36
And what is the purpose of the link, other than to prove my original claim about Team Ortiz only choosing to notify the media of their injury after they'd rejected the Hrgovic bout?

I'm a little confused.

Are you trying to agree with me or did you really attempt to prove me wrong, whilst unintentionally citing proof that backs up my claims?

Read the article, and highlight the part that says he rejected the fight before the injury was found?

I don’t need to refer to any of the text detailed in the article.

The dates of the media announcements do that.

There’s no such thing as a time machine.

I asked you to simply point out something to back up your claim. You can't.

You cannot do it because you are dishonest, and lie to attempt to make someone look bad, that you hate. You have lost all credibility in this forum. Please go away.

Bandog wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 20:46

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 13:47

Bandog wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 09:55

Read the article, and highlight the part that says he rejected the fight before the injury was found?

I don’t need to refer to any of the text detailed in the article.

The dates of the media announcements do that.

There’s no such thing as a time machine.

I asked you to simply point out something to back up your claim. You can't.

You cannot do it because you are dishonest, and lie to attempt to make someone look bad, that you hate. You have lost all credibility in this forum. Please go away.

The dates of the articles you keep citing is my proof.

Do you know what the term “chronological order” means?

No one gives a shite about your little girl argument fellas.

Any news on Hrgovic-Joyce?

Everything has suddenly gone very silent about the IBF final eliminator.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Jan 2022, 04:55 Any news on Hrgovic-Joyce?

Everything has suddenly gone very silent about the IBF final eliminator.

Joe’s number 1 for the WBO already. He’s not fighting a final eliminator for the IBF.

I’d expect them to keep going down the rankings until someone like Kabayel or Zhang accepts it.

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 21:07 No one gives a shite about your little girl argument fellas.

My sole purpose is not to argue, but stop the lies and call out hypocrisy that does nothing but hurt a boxer's chance of getting fights we want to see.

If that bothers you, I'd say you are part of the problem.

Bandog wrote: ↑25 Jan 2022, 11:13

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 21:07 No one gives a shite about your little girl argument fellas.

My sole purpose is not to argue, but stop the lies and call out hypocrisy that does nothing but hurt a boxer's chance of getting fights we want to see.

If that bothers you, I'd say you are part of the problem.

Just stop taking over threads with EO and your petty tiffs.

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Jan 2022, 11:31

Bandog wrote: ↑25 Jan 2022, 11:13

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jan 2022, 21:07 No one gives a shite about your little girl argument fellas.

My sole purpose is not to argue, but stop the lies and call out hypocrisy that does nothing but hurt a boxer's chance of getting fights we want to see.

If that bothers you, I'd say you are part of the problem.

Just stop taking over threads with EO and your petty tiffs.

Bandog wrote: ↑25 Jan 2022, 11:37

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Jan 2022, 11:31

Bandog wrote: ↑25 Jan 2022, 11:13

My sole purpose is not to argue, but stop the lies and call out hypocrisy that does nothing but hurt a boxer's chance of getting fights we want to see.

If that bothers you, I'd say you are part of the problem.

Just stop taking over threads with EO and your petty tiffs.

Dan also suggested that he'd be surprised is Gassiev took it as he is struggling with an injury.

I guess that means that next up, after Ruiz, would be McKean, Zhang, Hughie. Joyce and Kabayel may have turned this down then. I think next month's rankings will have some new names in it. They could just end up waiting until Bakole/Yoka has been done, it's not lie the mandatory will happen any time soon.

How long until they just give Hrgovic a shot? It seems nobody seems to want to take this fight because of the splits or because they're confident that they'll lose. I think Luis Ortiz needs to give his homemade heavyweight boogeyman medal to Hrgovic.

joshj909 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2022, 13:08

Dan also suggested that he'd be surprised is Gassiev took it as he is struggling with an injury.

I guess that means that next up, after Ruiz, would be McKean, Zhang, Hughie. Joyce and Kabayel may have turned this down then. I think next month's rankings will have some new names in it. They could just end up waiting until Bakole/Yoka has been done, it's not lie the mandatory will happen any time soon.

How long until they just give Hrgovic a shot? It seems nobody seems to want to take this fight because of the splits or because they're confident that they'll lose. I think Luis Ortiz needs to give his homemade heavyweight boogeyman medal to Hrgovic.

i said it in a previous post that the highest rated fighter that would be will ing to take such a split would be McKean.
I'll stick with it. The guy would still get his biggest payday and he has nothing to lose

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Jan 2022, 14:32

joshj909 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2022, 13:08

Dan also suggested that he'd be surprised is Gassiev took it as he is struggling with an injury.

I guess that means that next up, after Ruiz, would be McKean, Zhang, Hughie. Joyce and Kabayel may have turned this down then. I think next month's rankings will have some new names in it. They could just end up waiting until Bakole/Yoka has been done, it's not lie the mandatory will happen any time soon.

How long until they just give Hrgovic a shot? It seems nobody seems to want to take this fight because of the splits or because they're confident that they'll lose. I think Luis Ortiz needs to give his homemade heavyweight boogeyman medal to Hrgovic.

i said it in a previous post that the highest rated fighter that would be will ing to take such a split would be McKean.
I'll stick with it. The guy would still get his biggest payday and he has nothing to lose

McKean’s signed with Matchroom now who are looking to promote some shows over there so I can’t see them letting McKean fight Hrgovic.

I’m pretty sure it’ll be Zhang who gets it.

Hughie fury would be an ideal opponent. Has a few losses so isn’t overly scared of another, can box, has a chin.

Both hughie and hrg have bulked up and forgot how to box a bit lately but could either wind back the clock (and pounds) or just embrace the plod.

maverick23 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2022, 03:51

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Jan 2022, 14:32

joshj909 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2022, 13:08

Dan also suggested that he'd be surprised is Gassiev took it as he is struggling with an injury.

I guess that means that next up, after Ruiz, would be McKean, Zhang, Hughie. Joyce and Kabayel may have turned this down then. I think next month's rankings will have some new names in it. They could just end up waiting until Bakole/Yoka has been done, it's not lie the mandatory will happen any time soon.

How long until they just give Hrgovic a shot? It seems nobody seems to want to take this fight because of the splits or because they're confident that they'll lose. I think Luis Ortiz needs to give his homemade heavyweight boogeyman medal to Hrgovic.

i said it in a previous post that the highest rated fighter that would be will ing to take such a split would be McKean.
I'll stick with it. The guy would still get his biggest payday and he has nothing to lose

McKean’s signed with Matchroom now who are looking to promote some shows over there so I can’t see them letting McKean fight Hrgovic.

I’m pretty sure it’ll be Zhang who gets it.

I'm still wondering why Edward signed Zhang. Maybe this is why.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 Jan 2022, 17:42

maverick23 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2022, 03:51

tiny_acres wrote: ↑26 Jan 2022, 14:32

i said it in a previous post that the highest rated fighter that would be will ing to take such a split would be McKean.
I'll stick with it. The guy would still get his biggest payday and he has nothing to lose

McKean’s signed with Matchroom now who are looking to promote some shows over there so I can’t see them letting McKean fight Hrgovic.

I’m pretty sure it’ll be Zhang who gets it.

I'm still wondering why Edward signed Zhang. Maybe this is why.

He was probably thinking of AJ doing an easy enough voluntary for loads of money in China.

Simply no money to be made fighting Hrg.