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600450 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 15:52

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 11:24

600450 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 09:19Big deal, I forget the exact years Williams was a welterweight.

Floyd and Williams were both at welter at the same time and that's when Williams should have gotten his shot at Floyd. But haymon and floyd knew Williams would destroy Floyd.

I’m still waiting for you to provide a timescale to justify your beliefs about when the Mayweather-Williams bout should have been made?

You’re still claiming that Mayweather "ducked" Williams, even though you clearly don’t know anything about the timelines of both fighters.

when they were both at 147 which was a considerable period. surely williams would have come down for the payday from 154 but of course haymon would have made him dive or play soft to the cash cow.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:12

600450 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 15:52

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 11:24
I’m still waiting for you to provide a timescale to justify your beliefs about when the Mayweather-Williams bout should have been made?

You’re still claiming that Mayweather "ducked" Williams, even though you clearly don’t know anything about the timelines of both fighters.

when they were both at 147 which was a considerable period. surely williams would have come down for the payday from 154 but of course haymon would have made him dive or play soft to the cash cow.

You still can't provide any dates, can you?

We need you to provide a year as to when this bout should have happened.

Bard of Boxrec wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 17:22 What’s everyone’s favourite takeaway

600450 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 14:10

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:12

600450 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 15:52

when they were both at 147 which was a considerable period. surely williams would have come down for the payday from 154 but of course haymon would have made him dive or play soft to the cash cow.

You still can't provide any dates, can you?

We need you to provide a year as to when this bout should have happened.

2006-2012 Williams could have made 147.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 17:33

Bard of Boxrec wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 17:22 What’s everyone’s favourite takeaway

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Bandog wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 18:25

KiwiRider wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 17:33

Bard of Boxrec wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 17:22 What’s everyone’s favourite takeaway

Medium butter chicken and a garlic naan

I like tacos.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 17:49

600450 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 14:10

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:12
You still can't provide any dates, can you?

We need you to provide a year as to when this bout should have happened.

2006-2012 Williams could have made 147.

When precisely should Floyd Mayweather have fought Paul Williams?

You can’t even answer that one single question, can you?

You dishonestly providing a seven year timeframe doesn’t answer that question.

And by the way, Paul Williams wasn’t even competing at 147lbs from the second half of 2008 until the remainder of his career!!!

So where the fûck are you getting those dates?

600450 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 20:03 Floyd was so terrified of Margarito, he paid Arum $750,000 to get out of his Top Rank contract because Arum was pressuring and forcing phloyd to fight Margarito for over a year. It was a smart duck move because Margarito would have slaughtered phloyd easily, just too big too strong. Williams vs Margarito was a fantastic fight, both were superior to lil phloyd at 147 but the establishment installed phloyd as the star to protect and make money off.

Bandog wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 07:44

600450 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 20:03 Floyd was so terrified of Margarito, he paid Arum $750,000 to get out of his Top Rank contract because Arum was pressuring and forcing phloyd to fight Margarito for over a year. It was a smart duck move because Margarito would have slaughtered phloyd easily, just too big too strong. Williams vs Margarito was a fantastic fight, both were superior to lil phloyd at 147 but the establishment installed phloyd as the star to protect and make money off.

In the end, in my eyes at least, Floyd didn't take a fight vs Margarito and I'm glad. Margarito is a cheating piece of shit that should have been banned from boxing for life.

600450 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 09:33

Bandog wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 07:44

600450 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 20:03 Floyd was so terrified of Margarito, he paid Arum $750,000 to get out of his Top Rank contract because Arum was pressuring and forcing phloyd to fight Margarito for over a year. It was a smart duck move because Margarito would have slaughtered phloyd easily, just too big too strong. Williams vs Margarito was a fantastic fight, both were superior to lil phloyd at 147 but the establishment installed phloyd as the star to protect and make money off.

In the end, in my eyes at least, Floyd didn't take a fight vs Margarito and I'm glad. Margarito is a cheating piece of shit that should have been banned from boxing for life.

Mosley cheated with steroids, Margarito surely knew about it and tried to compensate for it by messing with the wraps but eagle eye Brother Nazzim Richardson noticed it and the attempt to cheat was foiled. there is no chance in hell Margarito did this before as the trainer watching the wrapping would have noticed it. Mosley surely was on steroids in this fight, he looked awful in his two previous outings. Vs Margarito he looked like Ray Robinson and Marvin Hagler combined. Mosley never once criticized Margarito for trying to cheat, not once. Because Mosley knows how badly he himself cheated by using steroids vs Margarito and the other fights it was exposed. If anyone cheated in the Margarito vs Mosley fight it was Mosley. Margarito was caught trying to cheat, Mosley actually DID CHEAT. If you think Mosley was clean in the Margarito fight you are a grade A imbecile FOOL.

600450 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 20:00

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 17:49

600450 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 14:10

2006-2012 Williams could have made 147.

When precisely should Floyd Mayweather have fought Paul Williams?

You can’t even answer that one single question, can you?

You dishonestly providing a seven year timeframe doesn’t answer that question.

And by the way, Paul Williams wasn’t even competing at 147lbs from the second half of 2008 until the remainder of his career!!!

So where the fûck are you getting those dates?

Williams could still make 147 easy but Haymon wanted him away from phloyd. When Williams fought for the 160 title he couldn't even get up to 160, he came in at 157. Clearly he could still make 147. phloyd could have picked Williams any time from 2006 to 2012 but of course ducked Williams.

Impossible style, impossible weapons, impossible disadvantages for the little fraud to deal with. Williams 120-108 or TKO round 4. Easy work.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 14:20

600450 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 20:00

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 17:49
When precisely should Floyd Mayweather have fought Paul Williams?

You can’t even answer that one single question, can you?

You dishonestly providing a seven year timeframe doesn’t answer that question.

And by the way, Paul Williams wasn’t even competing at 147lbs from the second half of 2008 until the remainder of his career!!!

So where the fûck are you getting those dates?

Williams could still make 147 easy but Haymon wanted him away from phloyd. When Williams fought for the 160 title he couldn't even get up to 160, he came in at 157. Clearly he could still make 147. phloyd could have picked Williams any time from 2006 to 2012 but of course ducked Williams.

Impossible style, impossible weapons, impossible disadvantages for the little fraud to deal with. Williams 120-108 or TKO round 4. Easy work.

No one in history would beat Floyd 120-108. It would not happen
Oh and you really are a dumb-ass

Bandog wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 14:10

600450 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 09:33

Bandog wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 07:44

In the end, in my eyes at least, Floyd didn't take a fight vs Margarito and I'm glad. Margarito is a cheating piece of shit that should have been banned from boxing for life.

Mosley cheated with steroids, Margarito surely knew about it and tried to compensate for it by messing with the wraps but eagle eye Brother Nazzim Richardson noticed it and the attempt to cheat was foiled. there is no chance in hell Margarito did this before as the trainer watching the wrapping would have noticed it. Mosley surely was on steroids in this fight, he looked awful in his two previous outings. Vs Margarito he looked like Ray Robinson and Marvin Hagler combined. Mosley never once criticized Margarito for trying to cheat, not once. Because Mosley knows how badly he himself cheated by using steroids vs Margarito and the other fights it was exposed. If anyone cheated in the Margarito vs Mosley fight it was Mosley. Margarito was caught trying to cheat, Mosley actually DID CHEAT. If you think Mosley was clean in the Margarito fight you are a grade A imbecile FOOL.

It's laughable you try to defend Margarito, who WAS caught, and have no proof regarding Mosley. Cotto took a beating from cement hands and could have ruined his career. You're in lala land.

600450 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 15:26

tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 14:20

600450 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 20:00

Williams could still make 147 easy but Haymon wanted him away from phloyd. When Williams fought for the 160 title he couldn't even get up to 160, he came in at 157. Clearly he could still make 147. phloyd could have picked Williams any time from 2006 to 2012 but of course ducked Williams.

Impossible style, impossible weapons, impossible disadvantages for the little fraud to deal with. Williams 120-108 or TKO round 4. Easy work.

No one in history would beat Floyd 120-108. It would not happen
Oh and you really are a dumb-ass

"Floyd was the same level as his father." - Ray Leonard

The difference was phloyd had a better manager and advisor who managed to manipulate HBO and Showtime to buy this protected fraud pretender. Good average basic fighter but smoke and mirrors and good marketing and corruption made him look great. Only a coward would ever call himself a coward twice on video. Williams would have eaten Floyd alive and sh** him out in the toilet after. But Haymon knew Williams didn't have the charisma or background story to sell.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 16:07

600450 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 15:26

tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 14:20

No one in history would beat Floyd 120-108. It would not happen
Oh and you really are a dumb-ass

"Floyd was the same level as his father." - Ray Leonard

The difference was phloyd had a better manager and advisor who managed to manipulate HBO and Showtime to buy this protected fraud pretender. Good average basic fighter but smoke and mirrors and good marketing and corruption made him look great. Only a coward would ever call himself a coward twice on video. Williams would have eaten Floyd alive and sh** him out in the toilet after. But Haymon knew Williams didn't have the charisma or background story to sell.

Hahahahaha. I've seen some pathetic trolling in my time, but this takes the cake.

Jog on.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 16:10

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 16:07

600450 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 15:26
"Floyd was the same level as his father." - Ray Leonard

The difference was phloyd had a better manager and advisor who managed to manipulate HBO and Showtime to buy this protected fraud pretender. Good average basic fighter but smoke and mirrors and good marketing and corruption made him look great. Only a coward would ever call himself a coward twice on video. Williams would have eaten Floyd alive and sh** him out in the toilet after. But Haymon knew Williams didn't have the charisma or background story to sell.

Hahahahaha. I've seen some pathetic trolling in my time, but this takes the cake.

Jog on.

I hate these trolls. Back in the day trolls were at least entertaining and thought provoking.
Now they are just dickheads

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 08:49 Still no word from Wilder as to whether he's retiring or not.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 16:07

600450 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 15:26

tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 14:20

No one in history would beat Floyd 120-108. It would not happen
Oh and you really are a dumb-ass

"Floyd was the same level as his father." - Ray Leonard

The difference was phloyd had a better manager and advisor who managed to manipulate HBO and Showtime to buy this protected fraud pretender. Good average basic fighter but smoke and mirrors and good marketing and corruption made him look great. Only a coward would ever call himself a coward twice on video. Williams would have eaten Floyd alive and sh** him out in the toilet after. But Haymon knew Williams didn't have the charisma or background story to sell.

Hahahahaha. I've seen some pathetic trolling in my time, but this takes the cake.

Jog on.