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Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 07:13
by bennie
Just looking at Fury's record, he was beaten in his pro debut by Adam Fogerty, a top rugby league player who tried his hand at boxing. No doubt Fogerty could have a ruck in his first sport but as a boxer he was horribly mechanical with absolutely no snap in his punches. Not a good defeat for Fury.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 11:21
by tonyevs
Adam Fogerty is a pretty special guy. A very respectable pro boxing record ... very respectable rugby league record ... a very impressive acting career too.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 11:26
by mickey1975
tonyevs wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:21 Adam Fogerty is a pretty special guy. A very respectable pro boxing record ... very respectable rugby league record ... a very impressive acting career too.
Are you mates with him?

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 13:11
by Stevieaber
tonyevs wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 04:33 57 according to Google.
He does look 10 yrs older .. then again Tyson looks in his mid 40s too, so I guess it's in the genes.
57? fornicate me, he must have had a hard paper round.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 13:17
by JamesPhilips
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:26
tonyevs wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:21 Adam Fogerty is a pretty special guy. A very respectable pro boxing record ... very respectable rugby league record ... a very impressive acting career too.
Are you mates with him?
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/41436

He had a good record - some recognisable names. Beat everyone he faced. Lister beat him by one point and he avenged it. Never seen footage though.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 13:24
by milpool
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:17
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:26
tonyevs wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:21 Adam Fogerty is a pretty special guy. A very respectable pro boxing record ... very respectable rugby league record ... a very impressive acting career too.
Are you mates with him?
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/41436

He had a good record - some recognisable names. Beat everyone he faced. Lister beat him by one point and he avenged it. Never seen footage though.
Interesting to see his final fight was with a girl I went to school with... :D

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 13:38
by mickey1975
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:17
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:26
tonyevs wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:21 Adam Fogerty is a pretty special guy. A very respectable pro boxing record ... very respectable rugby league record ... a very impressive acting career too.
Are you mates with him?
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/41436

He had a good record - some recognisable names. Beat everyone he faced. Lister beat him by one point and he avenged it. Never seen footage though.
I was at a few of his fights.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 13:40
by mickey1975
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:38
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:17
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:26
Are you mates with him?
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/41436

He had a good record - some recognisable names. Beat everyone he faced. Lister beat him by one point and he avenged it. Never seen footage though.
I was at a few of his fights.
One of which is wrongly listed on here. It was the Royal Hall, Harrogate, not The Great Yorkshire Showground.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 14:11
by jamesmcdonnell
Stevieaber wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:11
tonyevs wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 04:33 57 according to Google.
He does look 10 yrs older .. then again Tyson looks in his mid 40s too, so I guess it's in the genes.
57? fornicate me, he must have had a hard paper round.
Does he really look that old? He's in a lot better physical shape than most 57 year olds I know.

I know plenty of people who looked completely ravaged at that age.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 14:24
by bripez
Dioufy wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 04:37 Met him at Parker v Chisora and he was sound.. very accommodating for pics, ect.
Part of me thinks all this is an act and he’s just being a huge attention seeker.
At his act, with his past, I’m sure he doesn’t want to fight anyone.
Ffs he even joined Instagram.
Of course he was accommodating to people who wanted to shake his hand and have a picture taken and generally blow smoke up his arse, next time you meet him have a general conversation and offer a different opinion and see how he reacts.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 14:25
by KiwiRider
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 14:11
Stevieaber wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:11
tonyevs wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 04:33 57 according to Google.
He does look 10 yrs older .. then again Tyson looks in his mid 40s too, so I guess it's in the genes.
57? fornicate me, he must have had a hard paper round.
Does he really look that old? He's in a lot better physical shape than most 57 year olds I know.

I know plenty of people who looked completely ravaged at that age.
Agree, for 57 he is in fairly good nick. He is overweight, but not like you said, completely ravaged by time.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 14:27
by jimmystone
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 14:11
Stevieaber wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:11
tonyevs wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 04:33 57 according to Google.
He does look 10 yrs older .. then again Tyson looks in his mid 40s too, so I guess it's in the genes.
57? fornicate me, he must have had a hard paper round.
Does he really look that old? He's in a lot better physical shape than most 57 year olds I know.

I know plenty of people who looked completely ravaged at that age.
You must hang about with some knackers, Jim, Most 57-year-olds I know look well. As for Partridge, he's not aged much in the last 10 years, He looked 57 a decade ago but only looks about 60 now.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 14:30
by mickey1975
My dad has never been a big man, but has aged well. He's 71 and could pass for 55. John has always been a big bloke, I'd say he looks about his age. And he is a very thick set man in person.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 14:45
by Dioufy
bripez wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 14:24
Dioufy wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 04:37 Met him at Parker v Chisora and he was sound.. very accommodating for pics, ect.
Part of me thinks all this is an act and he’s just being a huge attention seeker.
At his act, with his past, I’m sure he doesn’t want to fight anyone.
Ffs he even joined Instagram.
Of course he was accommodating to people who wanted to shake his hand and have a picture taken and generally blow smoke up his arse, next time you meet him have a general conversation and offer a different opinion and see how he reacts.
On camera he’s definitely aggressive, often repulsive, and more often or not embarrassing.
I’m sure some of that is natural, and/or residual from his past.
I’m just going off my personal experience.
I was ringside and he was sat watching a fight intensely and I interrupted him by asking can I have a picture. He was completely fine.
Now interrupt him on IFL and he goes back to being repulsive, embarrassing and aggressive pretty much every time.
He’s no doubt a very rough, abrupt man but I’m just offering the opinion that maybe with a camera in his face he plays up a little more.
I have no doubt him and Frampton have spoken since.
Everyone involved in the game knows what this 56-year old version of John Fury is like. It’s not like he’s going around looking to blind folk for small, petty disagreements as some believe.
Take what you see on camera with a pinch of salt.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 15:24
by JamesPhilips
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:38
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:17
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:26
Are you mates with him?
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/41436

He had a good record - some recognisable names. Beat everyone he faced. Lister beat him by one point and he avenged it. Never seen footage though.
I was at a few of his fights.
What was he like? Crude but strong I guess

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 08 Mar 2022, 15:32
by mickey1975
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 15:24
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:38
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:17

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/41436

He had a good record - some recognisable names. Beat everyone he faced. Lister beat him by one point and he avenged it. Never seen footage though.
I was at a few of his fights.
What was he like? Crude but strong I guess
I was only young. He was top of the bill on Henry's pro debut, despite Henry selling all the tickets, literally. I know a few who played Rugby with him, I think he was more respected in that sport.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 09 Mar 2022, 04:37
by mickey1975
In the opposite scenario, Gary Mason had a brief Rugby league career. He wasn't the best....

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 09 Mar 2022, 04:47
by tigermoth87
JamesPhilips wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 13:17
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:26
tonyevs wrote: 08 Mar 2022, 11:21 Adam Fogerty is a pretty special guy. A very respectable pro boxing record ... very respectable rugby league record ... a very impressive acting career too.
Are you mates with him?
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/41436

He had a good record - some recognisable names. Beat everyone he faced. Lister beat him by one point and he avenged it. Never seen footage though.

Freddie Flintoff could have got a record like this and set the benchmark for athletes turned boxers if he kept it up.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 09 Mar 2022, 04:52
by mickey1975
I thought Big John drew with Malpass.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 09 Mar 2022, 05:41
by bennie
I watched Fogerty against Tommy Morrison's brother, Tim. The big Yorkshireman had Terry Lawless in his corner which tells you two things: Fogerty would be in shape and Morrison didn't stand a chance. Fogerty boxed with a cool head but there was no fluidity in his work and he didn't punch his weight. Morrison offered no threat, of course, and by pure coincidence we shared the same compartment in the tube after the show. I was going home; Morrison asked me if I could recommend a good nightclub.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 09 Mar 2022, 05:42
by mickey1975
mercman wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 05:16
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 04:52 I thought Big John drew with Malpass.
No, Malpass beat him on points. I was at that one.

Close one, but Malpass just about deserved it. Used his reach and 'old manned' Fury a bit.
Sorry, I was thinking Sykes.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 09 Mar 2022, 07:45
by tigermoth87
mercman wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 07:34
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 05:42
mercman wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 05:16

No, Malpass beat him on points. I was at that one.

Close one, but Malpass just about deserved it. Used his reach and 'old manned' Fury a bit.
Sorry, I was thinking Sykes.
Sykes and Malpass had two fights. Sykes was disqualified in the first one. The second one was a draw but Malpass should've got the nod on points.

The referee went to raise Malpass' hand but bottled it when Sykes saw what was happening and came marching over. Ref then raised both of hands, but it was pretty obvious who won really.

More proof that Sykes was a bum.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 09 Mar 2022, 12:10
by Coco
Sykes was a bum as a person, but as a fighter??
Obviously we was not world class but he fought for a British title.
If this was true it would make 95% of Brit professionals bums.

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 09 Mar 2022, 15:47
by coneye
Horrible human being ,, but not a bad boxer , its crazy the amount of people who refer to boxers has bums because they dont win major titles ,, thers some boxers who are not very good but certainly not bums , Sykes was actually a good boxer , Just a shite person

Re: Big John fury at it again

Posted: 10 Mar 2022, 04:39
by tigermoth87
Coco wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 12:10 Sykes was a bum as a person, but as a fighter??
Obviously we was not world class but he fought for a British title.
If this was true it would make 95% of Brit professionals bums.
6-3, which should be 6-4 is a bum's record. Especially when one of those losses was a 1st round KO to a nobody.