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All i can say is, I'm very grateful for Boxing News doing what it does.

Black Sam Bellamy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 11:23

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 09:14

Black Sam Bellamy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 04:21 People like Ollie Holt are just there for the freebie. Tell me the last time he wrote anything vaguely positive when it comes to boxing.

The article he wrote after the fight says it all about why he was sat where he was.

'OLIVER HOLT: Tyson Fury may have prevailed in his fight against Dillian Whyte, but he lost the one fought over Daniel Kinahan... no amount of perfect uppercuts will smooth away questions about his relationship with the alleged crime boss'

He could have written that copy from his spare bedroom, so why does he even need to be there ?

He probably wrote that suffering from altitude sickness, and nursing a nose bleed.
Had to write about a fight so far away he couldn't tell one fighter from the other. Plus I think questions do need to be asked of who is involved with Kinahan, and to what extent.

Questions need to be asked. All the boxers , mangers etc wanted that quick cash and should have known there’d be consequences down the line. This was always coming.

high tower 1 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2022, 17:23 Questions need to be asked. All the boxers , mangers etc wanted that quick cash and should have known there’d be consequences down the line. This was always coming.

Seeing Danny Vaughn posing and smiling with the likes of Liam Byrne, who beat a man half to death for no reason, then tried to hire the INLA to murder his girlfriend after she refused his attempts to bribe her off of testifying, raises bloody questions alright!!

And it's not like Byrne just grabbed a quick selfie, Vaughn is best buddies with these guys, salt of the earth best fellas around etc

Hopefully Liam ends up where his brother is

high tower 1 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2022, 17:23 Questions need to be asked. All the boxers , mangers etc wanted that quick cash and should have known there’d be consequences down the line. This was always coming.

agree....ridiculous how snowflakey some guys are getting over these questions being asked. a long time coming is right....pretty weird how off guard some ppl seem by these questions coming up, theyve had years to prepare answers

mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 16:46 Abrams did a good Dixons life stories where he addressed all the above.

Any chance you could summarize it? Very few are going to watch a 2 hour video. You could just write 2 or 3 sentences.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Apr 2022, 18:04

high tower 1 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2022, 17:23 Questions need to be asked. All the boxers , mangers etc wanted that quick cash and should have known there’d be consequences down the line. This was always coming.

agree....ridiculous how snowflakey some guys are getting over these questions being asked. a long time coming is right....pretty weird how off guard some ppl seem by these questions coming up, theyve had years to prepare answers

They had a good run. Now we can get back to above the law promoters scamming and robbing their fighters. The irony !

high tower 1 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 02:34

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Apr 2022, 18:04

high tower 1 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2022, 17:23 Questions need to be asked. All the boxers , mangers etc wanted that quick cash and should have known there’d be consequences down the line. This was always coming.

agree....ridiculous how snowflakey some guys are getting over these questions being asked. a long time coming is right....pretty weird how off guard some ppl seem by these questions coming up, theyve had years to prepare answers

They had a good run. Now we can get back to above the law promoters scamming and robbing their fighters. The irony !

Can't we walk and chew gum at the same time?? These issues all need addressed, but at least with developments like the net closing on Cancer K they might be able to have a boxing event down south again without fear of automatic gunfire and murders at the weigh ins

That's a good start, now let's try and get some fighter protection so they aren't seduced by the blood money

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑27 Apr 2022, 22:09

mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 16:46 Abrams did a good Dixons life stories where he addressed all the above.

Any chance you could summarize it? Very few are going to watch a 2 hour video. You could just write 2 or 3 sentences.

Frank made him sit behind a post once. He tried to move to an empty seat nearby but franks assistant made him move back to the post.

Overall says frank is difficult but you can have it out with him and once he’s vented he moves on. Micky duff on the other hand held grudges forever.

GreenLightning wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 03:41

high tower 1 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 02:34

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Apr 2022, 18:04

agree....ridiculous how snowflakey some guys are getting over these questions being asked. a long time coming is right....pretty weird how off guard some ppl seem by these questions coming up, theyve had years to prepare answers

They had a good run. Now we can get back to above the law promoters scamming and robbing their fighters. The irony !

Can't we walk and chew gum at the same time?? These issues all need addressed, but at least with developments like the net closing on Cancer K they might be able to have a boxing event down south again without fear of automatic gunfire and murders at the weigh ins

That's a good start, now let's try and get some fighter protection so they aren't seduced by the blood money

Boxing events should not have been outlawed in the Republic for years. The police should be capable of policing a boxing event. Katie Taylor could sell out Croke Park and have 80k Irish people and a great St. Patricks day for the Irish. You can only blame the police for not having the ability to police events. Armed guards stationed near the arena and a garda presence inside would do it. The blame purely goes on the police in Ireland in my opinion.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 12:26

GreenLightning wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 03:41

high tower 1 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 02:34

They had a good run. Now we can get back to above the law promoters scamming and robbing their fighters. The irony !

Can't we walk and chew gum at the same time?? These issues all need addressed, but at least with developments like the net closing on Cancer K they might be able to have a boxing event down south again without fear of automatic gunfire and murders at the weigh ins

That's a good start, now let's try and get some fighter protection so they aren't seduced by the blood money

Boxing events should not have been outlawed in the Republic for years. The police should be capable of policing a boxing event. Katie Taylor could sell out Croke Park and have 80k Irish people and a great St. Patricks day for the Irish. You can only blame the police for not having the ability to police events. Armed guards stationed near the arena and a garda presence inside would do it. The blame purely goes on the police in Ireland in my opinion.

Yep all the police’s fault

high tower 1 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 13:35

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 12:26

GreenLightning wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 03:41
Can't we walk and chew gum at the same time?? These issues all need addressed, but at least with developments like the net closing on Cancer K they might be able to have a boxing event down south again without fear of automatic gunfire and murders at the weigh ins

That's a good start, now let's try and get some fighter protection so they aren't seduced by the blood money

Boxing events should not have been outlawed in the Republic for years. The police should be capable of policing a boxing event. Katie Taylor could sell out Croke Park and have 80k Irish people and a great St. Patricks day for the Irish. You can only blame the police for not having the ability to police events. Armed guards stationed near the arena and a garda presence inside would do it. The blame purely goes on the police in Ireland in my opinion.

Yep all the police’s fault

That's what I was going to say as well!

As you mentioned Katie Taylor, does she have any connections to people who could cause a problem?

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 12:26

GreenLightning wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 03:41

high tower 1 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 02:34

They had a good run. Now we can get back to above the law promoters scamming and robbing their fighters. The irony !

Can't we walk and chew gum at the same time?? These issues all need addressed, but at least with developments like the net closing on Cancer K they might be able to have a boxing event down south again without fear of automatic gunfire and murders at the weigh ins

That's a good start, now let's try and get some fighter protection so they aren't seduced by the blood money

Boxing events should not have been outlawed in the Republic for years. The police should be capable of policing a boxing event. Katie Taylor could sell out Croke Park and have 80k Irish people and a great St. Patricks day for the Irish. You can only blame the police for not having the ability to police events. Armed guards stationed near the arena and a garda presence inside would do it. The blame purely goes on the police in Ireland in my opinion.

I'm not a fan of law enforcement, I'm old enough to remember the RUC, who were little more than gangsters themselves, but the blame purely goes on the police for not having enough armed guards stationed at boxing events to stop gang killings?? Isn't there something wrong with this picture??

bripez wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 13:48

high tower 1 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 13:35

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 12:26

Boxing events should not have been outlawed in the Republic for years. The police should be capable of policing a boxing event. Katie Taylor could sell out Croke Park and have 80k Irish people and a great St. Patricks day for the Irish. You can only blame the police for not having the ability to police events. Armed guards stationed near the arena and a garda presence inside would do it. The blame purely goes on the police in Ireland in my opinion.

Yep all the police’s fault

That's what I was going to say as well!

As you mentioned Katie Taylor, does she have any connections to people who could cause a problem?

No, I don't think so, she was estranged from her dad, who was connected and shot at his gym

GreenLightning wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 13:55
I'm not a fan of law enforcement, I'm old enough to remember the RUC, who were little more than gangsters themselves, but the blame purely goes on the police for not having enough armed guards stationed at boxing events to stop gang killings?? Isn't there something wrong with this picture??

I don't think anything wrong with policing a boxing event at all. The police took the easy way out in my opinion. Maybe it was the threat of something happening to members of the public but you can't hold a sport to a standstill in a country. It wouldn't happen in anywhere else. Can you imagine all boxing events in the UK being banned for 6 years now? No shows at all in that time?

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 20:46

GreenLightning wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 13:55
I'm not a fan of law enforcement, I'm old enough to remember the RUC, who were little more than gangsters themselves, but the blame purely goes on the police for not having enough armed guards stationed at boxing events to stop gang killings?? Isn't there something wrong with this picture??

I don't think anything wrong with policing a boxing event at all. The police took the easy way out in my opinion. Maybe it was the threat of something happening to members of the public but you can't hold a sport to a standstill in a country. It wouldn't happen in anywhere else. Can you imagine all boxing events in the UK being banned for 6 years now? No shows at all in that time?

Oh hang on I thought you were saying like the whole feud is purely the polices fault lol

I don't know it's a tough one, if there is a danger at the event of someone involved in it being shot dead, then that's probably not an event worth putting on because who the hell is behind it

They could have just tried to ban Kinahan affiliates , but at one point that was like 80 percent of the bloody boxing business in Ireland because he',d gotten his tentacles inso deep into to it by then, and they can just use front names , or fighters just deny connections like they do everywhere else

GreenLightning wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 21:08

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 20:46

GreenLightning wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 13:55
I'm not a fan of law enforcement, I'm old enough to remember the RUC, who were little more than gangsters themselves, but the blame purely goes on the police for not having enough armed guards stationed at boxing events to stop gang killings?? Isn't there something wrong with this picture??

I don't think anything wrong with policing a boxing event at all. The police took the easy way out in my opinion. Maybe it was the threat of something happening to members of the public but you can't hold a sport to a standstill in a country. It wouldn't happen in anywhere else. Can you imagine all boxing events in the UK being banned for 6 years now? No shows at all in that time?

Oh hang on I thought you were saying like the whole feud is purely the polices fault lol

I don't know it's a tough one, if there is a danger at the event of someone involved in it being shot dead, then that's probably not an event worth putting on because who the hell is behind it

They could have just tried to ban Kinahan affiliates , but at one point that was like 80 percent of the bloody boxing business in Ireland because he',d gotten his tentacles inso deep into to it by then, and they can just use front names , or fighters just deny connections like they do everywhere else

How do you think it's going to look historically when Irish people in 50 or 100+ years look back and see the sport was outlawed for years and Katie Taylor, who will probably still be remembered as the best Irish female boxer then, never fought in Ireland. I don't think the police will get away with saying it was out of their hands. People will say they should have stood up and secured the events and not allowed boxing to be outlawed. Like I said, it wouldn't happen in any other country. How long are they going to outlaw the sport? I would think 6 years is more than enough. The Irish public are paying taxes. They have a right to boxing events. If this was happening in the UK, I think Wazza would have taken the government to court

I will accept that it's a tough position and we probably don't have all the information. If there were credible threats to the public then I would agree with the police I suppose.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 21:31

GreenLightning wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 21:08

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 20:46

I don't think anything wrong with policing a boxing event at all. The police took the easy way out in my opinion. Maybe it was the threat of something happening to members of the public but you can't hold a sport to a standstill in a country. It wouldn't happen in anywhere else. Can you imagine all boxing events in the UK being banned for 6 years now? No shows at all in that time?

Oh hang on I thought you were saying like the whole feud is purely the polices fault lol

I don't know it's a tough one, if there is a danger at the event of someone involved in it being shot dead, then that's probably not an event worth putting on because who the hell is behind it

They could have just tried to ban Kinahan affiliates , but at one point that was like 80 percent of the bloody boxing business in Ireland because he',d gotten his tentacles inso deep into to it by then, and they can just use front names , or fighters just deny connections like they do everywhere else

How do you think it's going to look historically when Irish people in 50 or 100+ years look back and see the sport was outlawed for years and Katie Taylor, who will probably still be remembered as the best Irish female boxer then, never fought in Ireland. I don't think the police will get away with saying it was out of their hands. People will say they should have stood up and secured the events and not allowed boxing to be outlawed. Like I said, it wouldn't happen in any other country. How long are they going to outlaw the sport? I would think 6 years is more than enough. The Irish public are paying taxes. They have a right to boxing events. If this was happening in the UK, I think Wazza would have taken the government to court

Yeah but they'll just say not enough resources to be standing around guarding events, in fact, I think I read today there's "staff shortage" in the armed response units. Is that because it's been relatively quiet the last few years and they haven't been needed as much? fornicate knows

polecateddy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 13:50 Boxing journalists in the UK don’t just seem to be a dying breed, more near extinct! Boxing Monthly was excellent but now is long gone, and you’d have to wonder how long the paper edition of Boxing News will last. Incredibly hard work - I think Claude used to say in was an all-consuming lifestyle keeping the paper on schedule. No wonder he retired in the end. You’d think the promoter would be beyond silly stunts like this by now.

100% it's a thankless job 24/7 365 days of the year. Does not even equate to minimum wage when you add up the hours. Not to mention the politics and threats of legal action. Boxing is the greatest sport in the world and there some really good people involved but unfortunately there are more two faced arse wipes. Having said that it was a great experience.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 12:26

GreenLightning wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 03:41

high tower 1 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2022, 02:34

They had a good run. Now we can get back to above the law promoters scamming and robbing their fighters. The irony !

Can't we walk and chew gum at the same time?? These issues all need addressed, but at least with developments like the net closing on Cancer K they might be able to have a boxing event down south again without fear of automatic gunfire and murders at the weigh ins

That's a good start, now let's try and get some fighter protection so they aren't seduced by the blood money

Boxing events should not have been outlawed in the Republic for years. The police should be capable of policing a boxing event. Katie Taylor could sell out Croke Park and have 80k Irish people and a great St. Patricks day for the Irish. You can only blame the police for not having the ability to police events. Armed guards stationed near the arena and a garda presence inside would do it. The blame purely goes on the police in Ireland in my opinion.

Are you kidding,what's it got to do with the police? They keep law and order not hired security for a sporting event