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littlepug wrote: ↑27 Jul 2022, 05:44

Deserter wrote: ↑27 Jul 2022, 05:25 Maybe I'm getting soft in my old age but this whole thread feels a bit harsh to me - seeing a lot of decent, dedicated participants in the sport we claim to love getting run down and disrespected. Winning a British title is a great achievement and while some of them may have over-achieved relative to their talent, it's surely hard to think anything other than 'good on you' given the sacrifices they will have made.

I agree, the tone of this thread is very disappointing and disrespectful, these forums used to be better with more insight and knowledge.

Me too. What you two guys and Coco said earlier is on the money.

Giancarlo wrote: ↑30 Jul 2022, 02:06

littlepug wrote: ↑27 Jul 2022, 05:44

Deserter wrote: ↑27 Jul 2022, 05:25 Maybe I'm getting soft in my old age but this whole thread feels a bit harsh to me - seeing a lot of decent, dedicated participants in the sport we claim to love getting run down and disrespected. Winning a British title is a great achievement and while some of them may have over-achieved relative to their talent, it's surely hard to think anything other than 'good on you' given the sacrifices they will have made.

I agree, the tone of this thread is very disappointing and disrespectful, these forums used to be better with more insight and knowledge.

Me too. What you two guys and Coco said earlier is on the money.

There are some minor trolls on forum nowadays, I tend to just dip in and end up rolling my eyes at a lot of the disrespectful posts and threads

Andy Bell sprung to my mind. Beat Chris Edwards and lost to Lee Haskins in what was one of the sh1ttiest title fights ever seen.

I do agree with Deserter, threads like this can seem like a put down to some fighters. I think the British title has been devalued. Too many belts out there nowadays.

if you take a group of people who are good at something, you'll still be able to order them by achievement/ability etc. someone 10th out of 5 billion is amazing at whatever it is, but will be the worst in a group where the other members are the #1, 3, and 5. the all star team for any elite pro sport league will still have a worst player, etc

worst in no way = not good at what they do, failure, etc. and im sure all you who dont like this thread have at some point implied that one fighter is worse than another, through predictions, reaction to an outcome, saying someone doesnt belong at a particular level, etc.

there's nothing wrong with this thread topic in itself, grown men should be able to have discussions on the subject.. for sure some people can be overly disparaging, but they'll do that in any thread, not just this one

How about the best? One of the best in my opinion is Kevin Finnegan because he lost three desperately close British title encounters with Alan Minter while beating Bunny Sterling, Frankie Lucas and Tony Sibson - all in 15-rounders.

bennie wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 11:23 How about the best? One of the best in my opinion is Kevin Finnegan because he lost three desperately close British title encounters with Alan Minter while beating Bunny Sterling, Frankie Lucas and Tony Sibson - all in 15-rounders.

When you say best, do you mean British Champs who never won anything else, or best British fighters who also won a British title like JC and Hatton and not Hamed?

Or the ones ones who were in the best British title fights?

Coco wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 11:27

bennie wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 11:23 How about the best? One of the best in my opinion is Kevin Finnegan because he lost three desperately close British title encounters with Alan Minter while beating Bunny Sterling, Frankie Lucas and Tony Sibson - all in 15-rounders.

When you say best, do you mean British Champs who never won anything else, or best British fighters who also won a British title like JC and Hatton and not Hamed?

Or the ones ones who were in the best British title fights?

Just the best British champs of all time. Someone like Clinton McKenzie.

Lewis Riston looked good on his British title run till he got found out.

Glass Joe wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 12:05 Lewis Riston looked good on his British title run till he got found out.

Good call, Ryan Rhodes too

Derek Roche

Glass Joe wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 12:05 Lewis Riston looked good on his British title run till he got found out.

Ritson was an awesome British champion. Doesn't he hold the record for the fastest Lonsdale belt? He's just caught between LW and LWW.

Jamie Moore one of the better ones?

John Murray was the most dominant lightweight champ I recall off the top of my head

Fearful_Freddie wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 16:31

Glass Joe wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 12:05 Lewis Riston looked good on his British title run till he got found out.

Ritson was an awesome British champion. Doesn't he hold the record for the fastest Lonsdale belt? He's just caught between LW and LWW.

He can't have beaten Rhodes.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 16:52

Fearful_Freddie wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 16:31

Glass Joe wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 12:05 Lewis Riston looked good on his British title run till he got found out.

Ritson was an awesome British champion. Doesn't he hold the record for the fastest Lonsdale belt? He's just caught between LW and LWW.

He can't have beaten Rhodes.

Just checked, Rhodes was 90 days, I actually thought it was less, 3 wins in those days

But he only had 19 days in between the 2 defences

Meanwhile Ritson took like 8 months(4 wins)

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 16:52

Fearful_Freddie wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 16:31

Glass Joe wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 12:05 Lewis Riston looked good on his British title run till he got found out.

Ritson was an awesome British champion. Doesn't he hold the record for the fastest Lonsdale belt? He's just caught between LW and LWW.

He can't have beaten Rhodes.

Perhaps he was is the quickest with the rules of three defences and ones a mandatory

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑30 Jul 2022, 11:59 Andy Bell sprung to my mind. Beat Chris Edwards and lost to Lee Haskins in what was one of the sh1ttiest title fights ever seen.

I do agree with Deserter, threads like this can seem like a put down to some fighters. I think the British title has been devalued. Too many belts out there nowadays.

Chris Edwards is a blast from the past. He won the British title a fair few times didn't he?

wrighty wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 18:14

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑30 Jul 2022, 11:59 Andy Bell sprung to my mind. Beat Chris Edwards and lost to Lee Haskins in what was one of the sh1ttiest title fights ever seen.

I do agree with Deserter, threads like this can seem like a put down to some fighters. I think the British title has been devalued. Too many belts out there nowadays.

Chris Edwards is a blast from the past. He won the British title a fair few times didn't he?

Excellent fighter, got better as the fight went on and tough as old boots. He died a young man. RIP.

I heard that. Any idea what happened? Dean Francis is another one that was gone too soon.

wrighty wrote: ↑01 Aug 2022, 18:14

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑30 Jul 2022, 11:59 Andy Bell sprung to my mind. Beat Chris Edwards and lost to Lee Haskins in what was one of the sh1ttiest title fights ever seen.

I do agree with Deserter, threads like this can seem like a put down to some fighters. I think the British title has been devalued. Too many belts out there nowadays.

Chris Edwards is a blast from the past. He won the British title a fair few times didn't he?

He did, was a great story. Journeyman to British champ. Very tough man. Shame he died so young.

Spud wrote: ↑23 Jul 2022, 16:13 Heavyweight Mike Holden

Good call. lovely man, limited boxer.

feel out of order saying it sam sexton ,pretty sure he lost it straight away, but least he was still champion tho

brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2022, 19:14 feel out of order saying it sam sexton ,pretty sure he lost it straight away, but least he was still champion tho

He was a good amateur wasnt he?

rhino222 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 07:10

Spud wrote: ↑23 Jul 2022, 16:13 Heavyweight Mike Holden

Good call. lovely man, limited boxer.

Why was Holden forced to fight 2 eliminators one against Julius Francis who he beat for the British title in his previous fight?

Was he stripped, if so why?

Anyway my pick is the tough but limited Sugar Gibiliru

Keith Knox. Won title on cuts against Damien Kelly and then lost in first defence to Jason Bootj