Montana Love vs. Stevie Spark | DAZN - November 12, 2022

[Ruthless-RKO]

Eddie Hearn disagreed with the ref’s decision and has interest in doing a rematch.

He said: “It was a bad decision. Montana was rough but he didn’t intentionally throw him out of the ring, and Steve got back into the ring and wanted to keep fighting. Referees have a tough job but that was a poor decision and one made too quickly.”

“It was turning into a great fight, the commission will review, I would love to do it again.”

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Love obviously sucks and he's just another Broner, but the stoppage was bad because it was a DQ without any point deductions before, while the foul wasn't severe, since Spark didn't receive any damage.

The foul was as severe as they get, Spark could have suffered career-ending injuries if he didn't land on his feet. The officials and photographers are right there at ringside and Spark may have landed on them or on their tables. If you look the fight on slow motion after the cut, it's clear that Love made no effort to box, he was looking to grab and wrestle.

[DrDuke]

Love obviously sucks and he's just another Broner, but the stoppage was bad because it was a DQ without any point deductions before, while the foul wasn't severe, since Spark didn't receive any damage.

The foul was as severe as they get, Spark could have suffered career-ending injuries if he didn't land on his feet. The officials and photographers are right there at ringside and Spark may have landed on them or on their tables. If you look the fight on slow motion after the cut, it's clear that Love made no effort to box, he was looking to grab and wrestle.

Boxing is a physical sport, the push itself wasn't that hard and intentional, like, for example, Fury's push, when he KOed Whyte, in the current case the position itself mattered as well, so it's reasonable to judge considering actual circumstances without suggesting how it could have been. Moreover, there were no deductions prior to a DQ.

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Love obviously sucks and he's just another Broner, but the stoppage was bad because it was a DQ without any point deductions before, while the foul wasn't severe, since Spark didn't receive any damage.

The foul was as severe as they get, Spark could have suffered career-ending injuries if he didn't land on his feet. The officials and photographers are right there at ringside and Spark may have landed on them or on their tables. If you look the fight on slow motion after the cut, it's clear that Love made no effort to box, he was looking to grab and wrestle.

Boxing is a physical sport, the push itself wasn't that hard and intentional, like, for example, Fury's push, when he KOed Whyte, in the current case the position itself mattered as well, so it's reasonable to judge considering actual circumstances without suggesting how it could have been. Moreover, there were no deductions prior to a DQ.

Love even lowered the rope with his right hand to spin Spark over it.

[DrDuke]

The foul was as severe as they get, Spark could have suffered career-ending injuries if he didn't land on his feet. The officials and photographers are right there at ringside and Spark may have landed on them or on their tables. If you look the fight on slow motion after the cut, it's clear that Love made no effort to box, he was looking to grab and wrestle.

Boxing is a physical sport, the push itself wasn't that hard and intentional, like, for example, Fury's push, when he KOed Whyte, in the current case the position itself mattered as well, so it's reasonable to judge considering actual circumstances without suggesting how it could have been. Moreover, there were no deductions prior to a DQ.

Love even lowered the rope with his right hand to spin Spark over it.

Barely the hand lowered the rope, Spark was literally put on the ropes on his back, after they both had wrestled their way to the ropes from the center of the ring.

[gregregegg]

Love obviously sucks and he's just another Broner, but the stoppage was bad because it was a DQ without any point deductions before, while the foul wasn't severe, since Spark didn't receive any damage.

The foul was massivly severe. but, spark didnt get any damage. I dont think the Damage should really matter the foul and potential for dammage should. otherwise you create a situation where people get rewarded with DQs for rolling around on the ground and punnished for getting up, ID rather have the decision removed from the injury/acting injured.

If i try shoot a cop and miss, theres no dammage but im still going to jail...

[Perseus]

So there is bit of debate over whether not Love should have been disqualified.
There would be zero debate if Love had not pushed his opponent over the top rope to begin with...
Show me a rule book that says "it's only a foul if the opponent is injured"

The ref was correct.
There is no justification for pushing an opponent over the top rope.
The ONLY people defending Love are the same despicable human beings who defended Mike Tyson biting off a piece of his opponents ear.
The actions of Montana Love were even worse than Mike Tyson because sending an opponent over the top rope has the potential to hurt multiple people not just the opponent.
If someone ringside had been hurt.......and they lawyer up........good luck with that lawsuit......the fighters are supposed to protect themselves at all times......no one else in the arena is reasonably expected to be prepared to protect themselves from boxers who have been shoved over the top rope.
Falling through the ropes?
Sure.
Pushed over the top rope?
Never.
ZERO tolerance is the correct path for such actions

When the commission reviews this they should suspend Montana Love indefinitely. A boxer who shoves opponents over the top rope and possibly on to people below shouldn't be allowed in the ring to begin with.

[SendoTakeshi]

Love obviously sucks and he's just another Broner, but the stoppage was bad because it was a DQ without any point deductions before, while the foul wasn't severe, since Spark didn't receive any damage.

Let's not compare him to a 4-divison-champion, because Love will never even come close to this achievment. I don't even think he's going to beat someone in the Top 10.

The DQ was justified, but the fight should've been stopped before that anyway. He was basically begging the ref to stop it.
Without the DQ he would've been knocked out inside one or two rounds anyway. This way he atleast get's a, for whatever reason, "controverse" DQ.

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Did Eddie Hearn really appeal this decision or was it only talk?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Did Eddie Hearn really appeal this decision or was it only talk?

I heard he has too. Might go as no contest.

I mean they didn't accidentally go over..

[margaret thatcher]

it was an obvious intentional foul, no way this gets changed to an nc

[Dioufy]

it was an obvious intentional foul, no way this gets changed to an nc

Do refs give 2 points deduction? I genuinely don’t know the rules on that. For me you can’t give ML just -1 for that… even -3 would be ideal in this situation.
DQ may seem harsh to some but -1 seems harsh on SS to me.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Montana Love Believes He Was Robbed Of An "Opportunity" To Pull Out The Victory

“The fight was just starting to break out,” said Love to IFL TV. “We wanted to turn it into a dog fight in the late rounds, we knew Steve was gonna shoot his wad, he was gonna gas out in the late rounds. We didn't have the opportunity. The referee definitely just jumped the gun, made a quick judgment call. Definitely wasn't happy with it.”

“We gonna do the rematch right here in Cleveland, Ohio.”

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What were the scorecards at the time of the stoppage ?

[Ruthless-RKO]

What were the scorecards at the time of the stoppage ?

not being reported.

[Cutman Scabbers]

What were the scorecards at the time of the stoppage ?

From a reliable source: two judges scored it even and one had Love ahead

[Ross]

So there is bit of debate over whether not Love should have been disqualified.
There would be zero debate if Love had not pushed his opponent over the top rope to begin with...
Show me a rule book that says "it's only a foul if the opponent is injured"

The ref was correct.
There is no justification for pushing an opponent over the top rope.
The ONLY people defending Love are the same despicable human beings who defended Mike Tyson biting off a piece of his opponents ear.
The actions of Montana Love were even worse than Mike Tyson because sending an opponent over the top rope has the potential to hurt multiple people not just the opponent.
If someone ringside had been hurt.......and they lawyer up........good luck with that lawsuit......the fighters are supposed to protect themselves at all times......no one else in the arena is reasonably expected to be prepared to protect themselves from boxers who have been shoved over the top rope.
Falling through the ropes?
Sure.
Pushed over the top rope?
Never.
ZERO tolerance is the correct path for such actions

When the commission reviews this they should suspend Montana Love indefinitely. A boxer who shoves opponents over the top rope and possibly on to people below shouldn't be allowed in the ring to begin with.

Spot on mate he just didnt want to loss - most likely by stoppage so he got himself disqualified - there should be no rematch LOve lost Spark won next

[Cutman Scabbers]

So there is bit of debate over whether not Love should have been disqualified.
There would be zero debate if Love had not pushed his opponent over the top rope to begin with...
Show me a rule book that says "it's only a foul if the opponent is injured"

The ref was correct.
There is no justification for pushing an opponent over the top rope.
The ONLY people defending Love are the same despicable human beings who defended Mike Tyson biting off a piece of his opponents ear.
The actions of Montana Love were even worse than Mike Tyson because sending an opponent over the top rope has the potential to hurt multiple people not just the opponent.
If someone ringside had been hurt.......and they lawyer up........good luck with that lawsuit......the fighters are supposed to protect themselves at all times......no one else in the arena is reasonably expected to be prepared to protect themselves from boxers who have been shoved over the top rope.
Falling through the ropes?
Sure.
Pushed over the top rope?
Never.
ZERO tolerance is the correct path for such actions

When the commission reviews this they should suspend Montana Love indefinitely. A boxer who shoves opponents over the top rope and possibly on to people below shouldn't be allowed in the ring to begin with.

Spot on mate he just didnt want to loss - most likely by stoppage so he got himself disqualified - there should be no rematch LOve lost Spark won next

No Love Lost