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matt3m wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 09:33

jameswilson wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 08:34 So Cameron had to sign a non disclosure agreement to leave McGuigan? Or am I reading that wrong.

I think it was more she signed an NDA to not speak about what the issues between them were/are, but I could be wrong.

She left the McGuigan's at the same time as 4 other fighters. MTK poached them all in one go.

smiling assassin wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 11:12 At least it’s got everyone talking about it. I had to Google Cameron and scorned to see who they are. All publicity is good publicity.

Funny autocorrect ! that

Is there anyone left in the world that hasn’t had mental health problems? Seems like no public statement is complete without mentioning them.

skanksta wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 10:59

smiling assassin wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 11:12 At least it’s got everyone talking about it. I had to Google Cameron and scorned to see who they are. All publicity is good publicity.

Funny autocorrect ! that

I didn’t notice until you pointed it out

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 12:06 Is there anyone left in the world that hasn’t had mental health problems? Seems like no public statement is complete without mentioning them.

Pathetic and totally dilutes people who suffer real mental health issues, I'd guess 40% of people are attention seeking liars who are either desperate for attention or are trying to get themselves out of a problem they've made for themselves, 40% genuinely believe they are depressed when actually they've just got the blues that most people get now and again and say 20% probably legit are depressed and need help

smiling assassin wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 12:18

skanksta wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 10:59

smiling assassin wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 11:12 At least it’s got everyone talking about it. I had to Google Cameron and scorned to see who they are. All publicity is good publicity.

Funny autocorrect ! that

I didn’t notice until you pointed it out

Beware a woman (boxer) scorned !

skanksta wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 12:42

smiling assassin wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 12:18

skanksta wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 10:59

Funny autocorrect ! that

I didn’t notice until you pointed it out

Beware a woman (boxer) scorned !

matt3m wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 09:33

jameswilson wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 08:34 So Cameron had to sign a non disclosure agreement to leave McGuigan? Or am I reading that wrong.

I think it was more she signed an NDA to not speak about what the issues between them were/are, but I could be wrong.

Yeah she’s been made to sign an NDA and then can’t talk about the McGuigans in a negative way.

Maybe it's down to his dad, but after what happened with Frampton, I find Shane untrustworthy.

Also I find folk who play the mental health card untrustworthy

jameswilson wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 05:18

matt3m wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 09:33

jameswilson wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 08:34 So Cameron had to sign a non disclosure agreement to leave McGuigan? Or am I reading that wrong.

I think it was more she signed an NDA to not speak about what the issues between them were/are, but I could be wrong.

Yeah she’s been made to sign an NDA and then can’t talk about the McGuigans in a negative way.

Usually that's a sure sign of guilt by the enforcers of the NDA in one way of another.

joshj909 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 07:47

jameswilson wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 05:18

matt3m wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 09:33

I think it was more she signed an NDA to not speak about what the issues between them were/are, but I could be wrong.

Yeah she’s been made to sign an NDA and then can’t talk about the McGuigans in a negative way.

Usually that's a sure sign of guilt by the enforcers of the NDA in one way of another.

Not necessarily. The NDA will often be part of a settlement. If the party isn’t happy signing an NDA then they don’t accept the settlement.

The NDA stops parties mouthing of and smearing the other side when parties have agreed to a settlement and resolution to the matter. Thus it’s there to ensure that the settlement is not accepted but then undermined by certain conduct thereafter. The NDA gives protection to the settlement and an end to matters.

No one is forced to take the settlement and sign the NDA. I think an NDA agreement was prudent in this case given the reputation of MTK and there alleged involvement in instigating a breach of contract.

In addition, in this case, the BBBoC heard the matter and found in favour of the McGuigans.

liamlion wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 08:51

joshj909 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 07:47

jameswilson wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 05:18

Yeah she’s been made to sign an NDA and then can’t talk about the McGuigans in a negative way.

Usually that's a sure sign of guilt by the enforcers of the NDA in one way of another.

Not necessarily. The NDA will often be part of a settlement. If the party isn’t happy signing an NDA then they don’t accept the settlement.

The NDA stops parties mouthing of and smearing the other side when parties have agreed to a settlement and resolution to the matter. Thus it’s there to ensure that the settlement is not accepted but then undermined by certain conduct thereafter. The NDA gives protection to the settlement and an end to matters.

No one is forced to take the settlement and sign the NDA. I think an NDA agreement was prudent in this case given the reputation of MTK and there alleged involvement in instigating a breach of contract.

In addition, in this case, the BBBoC heard the matter and found in favour of the McGuigans.

I agree but not entirely. It isn't definitive evidence but it can still be a sign pointing towards some degree of guilt. If what Cameron knew was incorrect then she could have been sued for libel/defamation should she have spoken up. I understand it's usually seen as a "safe option" for rich people to settle and demand an NDA but it screams guilt most of the time. It can save them face and their reputation in the court of public opinion but not entirely as people will still know that an NDA was enforced to save their reputation. We don't know the specifics so we don't know and may never know. That's my take on it anyway.

Some excellent posts on this.

I cannot decide who is in the right.

Maybe a crap analogy would be like going to your own birthday party and your ex and new girlfriend accidentally gets invited along

Tbh if I was topping the bill defending my undisputed world titles in the away corner against the local hero, the last thing I'd want is someone I despised floating about all fight week and I'd probably do all I can to get them off the bill as well, that would leave the fighter to chose between getting a new trainer for fight week or waiting a couple of weeks for their title shot


On the same token if I was a promoter I'd like to think nobody on the bill would be dictating who and who wasn't on the bill on my card

Still can't help but feel for Scotney

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 12:06 Is there anyone left in the world that hasn’t had mental health problems? Seems like no public statement is complete without mentioning them.

Yes mental health needs are being overextended that's the problem, not these criminal murderers

Coco wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 07:39 Maybe it's down to his dad, but after what happened with Frampton, I find Shane untrustworthy.

Also I find folk who play the mental health card untrustworthy

You'd have lasted two seconds around Kinahan mate you have no fornicating idea who to trust

Paddy Doyle trusted him and got So t fifteen times the guy who set up Doyle, a fella named Gary Hutch, well I wonder what happened to him

Anyway back to moaning about mental heath!! THAT'S the scourge!!!

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 12:21

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 12:06 Is there anyone left in the world that hasn’t had mental health problems? Seems like no public statement is complete without mentioning them.

Pathetic and totally dilutes people who suffer real mental health issues, I'd guess 40% of people are attention seeking liars who are either desperate for attention or are trying to get themselves out of a problem they've made for themselves, 40% genuinely believe they are depressed when actually they've just got the blues that most people get now and again and say 20% probably legit are depressed and need help

How many of these people would be say... Addicts getting preyed upon by criminal filth dealers??

In a sport where we are only now actually seeing the disgusting rotten shit that happens , boxers being broken and left to for after being robbed, their minds shattered, people wondering would like John Murray choking back years seeing good boxers broken down on the streets "Why the fornicate has nobody helped you?"

the REAL problem?? Too much focus on mental health issues

GreenLightning wrote: ↑10 Apr 2023, 20:26

Coco wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 07:39 Maybe it's down to his dad, but after what happened with Frampton, I find Shane untrustworthy.

Also I find folk who play the mental health card untrustworthy

You'd have lasted two seconds around Kinahan mate you have no fornicating idea who to trust

Where am I saying I'm up for taking on dangerous gangsters??

I'm making a comment on McGuigan promotions and what happened with Frampton

GreenLightning wrote: ↑10 Apr 2023, 20:27 Paddy Doyle trusted him and got So t fifteen times the guy who set up Doyle, a fella named Gary Hutch, well I wonder what happened to him

Anyway back to moaning about mental heath!! THAT'S the scourge!!!

You have just come back from the pub yeah?

Drink plenty of water before you go to bed fella

Might be worth having a bucket next to you too.

Still Tickets Left for Katie Taylor’s Homecoming but…

Irish fight fans wishing to attend the massive Katie Taylor Homecoming clash this summer can still get tickets.

However, the cheapest one available for the 3Arena hosted Matchroom promoted clash are as costly €765.

Tickets went on sale just over a week ago and the majority were snapped up in minutes. The lowest-priced €86 were said to be sold out within six minutes of going on general sale as fans clamoured to secure seats for the massive Taylor -Chantelle Cameron world title fight.



The higher-priced tickets followed suit soon after but the fight night is not officially a sell-out.

There are just over 20 tickets still on sale Ticketmaster.

The cheapest tickets left on general sale are in sections P, V and U Ringside at a price of €765.

Ringside tickets in sections Q, S and T are still available and cost a massive €1,525.

The cheapest resale ticket on site is in Block E and can be bought for €523.50.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Apr 2023, 08:11 Still Tickets Left for Katie Taylor’s Homecoming but…

Irish fight fans wishing to attend the massive Katie Taylor Homecoming clash this summer can still get tickets.

However, the cheapest one available for the 3Arena hosted Matchroom promoted clash are as costly €765.

There are just over 20 tickets still on sale Ticketmaster.

The cheapest tickets left on general sale are in sections P, V and U Ringside at a price of €765.

Ringside tickets in sections Q, S and T are still available and cost a massive €1,525.

The cheapest resale ticket on site is in Block E and can be bought for €523.50.

€765 is £673

Ringside €1,525 is £1342