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Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 17:12
by leejonesjnr
Here’s a question…
Was Robin Deakin a journeyman?
I know what I think but interested to hear others thoughts.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 18:08
by Coco
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑10 Mar 2023, 17:12
Here’s a question…
Was Robin Deakin a journeyman?
I know what I think but interested to hear others thoughts.
Fought regularly, always away from home, didn't get stopped too much, certainly qualifies by my original definition
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 18:10
by Ruthless-RKO
What’s Danny Williams?
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 18:14
by leejonesjnr
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 18:22
by emallini
When you have a 30 year career your status can dramatically shift
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 19:06
by stu 27
mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Mar 2023, 02:50
Coco wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 20:16
Fighters like Danny Thorpe and Jason Nesbitt could bang
A mate boxed Thorpe and got the shock of his life in the opening 30 seconds. I think Thorpe was another who chose to go down that route.
I sparred Nesbitt a good few times(hated it)and he could bang!
Another lad from Nobbys stable but more late 90’s was a guy called Trevor Smith,southpaw with solid power
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 19:18
by orbtastic
Paul Wesley was a dangerman when he felt like it.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 19:26
by Teddy's Toupee
orbtastic wrote: ↑10 Mar 2023, 19:18
Paul Wesley was a dangerman when he felt like it.
He stopped Paul "Silky"Jones and Neville Brown, both in the first round, which are notable results, but he only has six stoppage victories in total.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 20:35
by johnty1888
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Mar 2023, 16:35
johnty1888 wrote: ↑10 Mar 2023, 11:42
Great shout with The Prince
Around the same time Dennis Berry could bang as well
I've known Kasi for over thirty years now. Did you ever watch him box?
Yes mate, I watched him box against Robbie “Boy” Bell in Sunderland years ago.
I don’t know what that Boxing News score was but it looked a comfortable victory for Kasi
Robbie Bell was Britains youngest pro at the time
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 11 Mar 2023, 07:07
by rhino222
Fray Bentos wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 11:51
Kelvin Mortimer at welterweight could bang, this was back in the eighties.
Slick Miller KO'd a few decent heavyweight prospects.
Alvin Slick Miller is a good call.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 11 Mar 2023, 07:08
by rhino222
Cello Renda
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 11 Mar 2023, 09:57
by Teddy's Toupee
johnty1888 wrote: ↑10 Mar 2023, 20:35
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Mar 2023, 16:35
johnty1888 wrote: ↑10 Mar 2023, 11:42
Great shout with The Prince
Around the same time Dennis Berry could bang as well
I've known Kasi for over thirty years now. Did you ever watch him box?
Yes mate, I watched him box against Robbie “Boy” Bell in Sunderland years ago.
I don’t know what that Boxing News score was but it looked a comfortable victory for Kasi
Robbie Bell was Britains youngest pro at the time
He lost by a point or two, I think. I used to spar with him when we both trained with John Rushton. He was strong for his size.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 11 Mar 2023, 12:22
by Noxy
Gordon Minors in the '90s. He could dig and fought around the country, although he didn't have 50+ fights like some of them do.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 12 Mar 2023, 15:46
by rubberneck
Delroy Mellis was the opponent for most of his fights. Lost twice as many as he won, but knocked out 10 of his 11 wins. Had a pretty solid chin too.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/7987
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 12 Mar 2023, 15:54
by JamesPhilips
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 12 Mar 2023, 16:03
by Coco
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 14 Mar 2023, 06:04
by wrighty
Been in the same gyms as Stuart Greener who beat Eubank's boy. He can whack. Nice lad too. Its hard to quantify a heavy hitting journeyman as often they are brought in to lose, so I think that is why people have been choosing ex contenders who can whack
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 14 Mar 2023, 09:01
by sibbo
The first name that comes to my mind is Tom Collins, although to be fair he won his fair share of belts.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 14 Mar 2023, 13:51
by Arnie.
Ojay ,Paul Wesley
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 18 Mar 2023, 03:41
by mickey1975
Funnily enough, manager and promoter Mickey Helliet wrote a facebook post the other day about my choice Mark McKray and called him one the biggest punchers he'd ever worked with. Won ABA novice class A & B as well.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 19 Mar 2023, 18:27
by wrighty
I know Paul Samuel's was a champion but he was losing more than he won by the end. He could seriously crack
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 19 Mar 2023, 18:29
by wrighty
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/534866 been in the gym with this guy years ago. He could whack a bit
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 19 Mar 2023, 18:31
by JamesPhilips
I’d say his chin / defence is what is really impressive!
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 19 Mar 2023, 18:37
by wrighty
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023, 18:31
I’d say his chin / defence is what is really impressive!
I used to go there for a bit before going to a local aba affiliated club. I got badly ill so didn't have any fights and was carrying around a ticking time bomb in my abdomen. Realistically I was mediocre at best and wouldn't have gone beyond the novices. Anyway I digress, he could whack. When you saw him hitting the bags you can tell he had power in both hands, and a very solid jab. Being a journeyman was a conscious decision I believe. Liam Richards from that gym was also making good money at it.
There was one middle from the west country called Mike Rose who I think won the western counties who was extremely heavy handed and a fornicating nightmare. I think he turned pro and had 4 or 5, no stoppages and left it. I know there isn't much money in the west country for boxers which is a shame as there was a bit of talent there.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 19 Mar 2023, 19:01
by 1192966
Colin Manners could bang a bit, but he was let down by only throwing ten to fifteen punches a round (five or six after Pyatt chinned him)