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Spud wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 08:12

642368 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 06:57

Spud wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 05:17

Why do ask?

Why is there a need to elaborate?

Forgive my suspicions

Apologies if caused any offence, was just genuinely interested. No worries, just interested in people who have worked alongside key figures in the sport.

I worked for Dennis Hobson for loads of shows and him signing Ricky on a contract was amazing ….

I worked on the Maussa fight in Sheffield and then the Urango and Castillo fights in Vegas.

You ask what Ricky was like, I say simply fantastic he was so kind to me as were Rickys dad Ray and Paul Speak his manager.

One surreal moment happened at the Maussa on fight, Ricky said to me “have you and Ginge (my son) eaten” to which I replied no. Ricky then invited me and Ginge to his room and along with a couple of other people we had a great laugh. Ginge was reading the Hatton/Tszyu programne, Ricky took it off him and signed “To my mate Ginge” then he signed it, there were painted montage prints of Rickys previous fights, Ricky did the same there. Ricky also signed a pair of gloves for ginge as well.

When we were in Vegas for the Castillo fight I arrived 5 days before the fight, I spent a lot of time with Ricky … a funny story … we were playing cards … the deck of cards were porn cards Ricky says “watch out lads, Spud has got an ace, look at him he is drooling. I forgot to say Sky were filming us.

Yep, Ricky was very good to me.

Thanks to working for Dennis Hobson on some big shows I went onto to work for David Haye
And also WBSS shows which saw me working
In Russia (Soch & Moscow), Latvia (Riga twice)and Germany. Have worked on shows in Monte Carlo abd all the major cities in the UK.

I have missed out loads. I started working for Franlk Maloney then Hennessy Sports.

Apologies for beibg paranoid.

Alba wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 12:50 Does Ricky speak to his Brother ? Or has he fallen out with him too

coneye wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 02:16 what is the scoop with Hattons dad and the money living overseas obviously hav'nt read too much about that , but Gee i spent half my working life just trying to provide for the wife and kids and the rest of it trying to scrape enough together to leave some to them , cannot possibly fathom how someone could be coooont enough to rob there own kids , in my eyes at least its probably only the most horrible , scumbags on earth could do such a thing ,,

Would hope its not true , if only for Rickys peice of mind

Coco wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 14:49 Hatton fell out with his long time trainer over a lump of money, in a nutshell Billy Graham said he wasn't paid, his dad called him a liar saying he had paid him and Hatton believed his dad.




Down the line when ray was caught with his hands in the till, Ricky and Billy sorted it out and wiped their mouth.

D4v3 wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 10:22 Very very good doc, Ray Hatton seems like a reyt slime ball, get the impression Ricky knows he’s a crook but has opted to forgive him for the sake of his own inner peace

Coco wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 14:49 Hatton fell out with his long time trainer over a lump of money, in a nutshell Billy Graham said he wasn't paid, his dad called him a liar saying he had paid him and Hatton believed his dad.

Down the line when ray was caught with his hands in the till, Ricky and Billy sorted it out and wiped their mouth.

Controversial wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 10:53

Coco wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 14:49 Hatton fell out with his long time trainer over a lump of money, in a nutshell Billy Graham said he wasn't paid, his dad called him a liar saying he had paid him and Hatton believed his dad.

Down the line when ray was caught with his hands in the till, Ricky and Billy sorted it out and wiped their mouth.

I thought the comment the mum made was quite telling that Ricky made Graham a millionaire and he still wanted more money said it a lot to me, sounded like they thought he didn’t deserve more. Isn’t this common with trainers though, fighters agree to pay them a percentage and when the big money comes they start to begrudge parting with more dough.

Coco wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 11:00

Controversial wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 10:53

Coco wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 14:49 Hatton fell out with his long time trainer over a lump of money, in a nutshell Billy Graham said he wasn't paid, his dad called him a liar saying he had paid him and Hatton believed his dad.

Down the line when ray was caught with his hands in the till, Ricky and Billy sorted it out and wiped their mouth.

I thought the comment the mum made was quite telling that Ricky made Graham a millionaire and he still wanted more money said it a lot to me, sounded like they thought he didn’t deserve more. Isn’t this common with trainers though, fighters agree to pay them a percentage and when the big money comes they start to begrudge parting with more dough.

Apparently FW said that he made Hatton a millionaire, and the Hatton still wanted more money

Coco wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 11:00

Controversial wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 10:53

Coco wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 14:49 Hatton fell out with his long time trainer over a lump of money, in a nutshell Billy Graham said he wasn't paid, his dad called him a liar saying he had paid him and Hatton believed his dad.

Down the line when ray was caught with his hands in the till, Ricky and Billy sorted it out and wiped their mouth.

I thought the comment the mum made was quite telling that Ricky made Graham a millionaire and he still wanted more money said it a lot to me, sounded like they thought he didn’t deserve more. Isn’t this common with trainers though, fighters agree to pay them a percentage and when the big money comes they start to begrudge parting with more dough.

Apparently FW said that he made Hatton a millionaire, and the Hatton still wanted more money

Coco wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 11:00

Controversial wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 10:53

Coco wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 14:49 Hatton fell out with his long time trainer over a lump of money, in a nutshell Billy Graham said he wasn't paid, his dad called him a liar saying he had paid him and Hatton believed his dad.

Down the line when ray was caught with his hands in the till, Ricky and Billy sorted it out and wiped their mouth.

I thought the comment the mum made was quite telling that Ricky made Graham a millionaire and he still wanted more money said it a lot to me, sounded like they thought he didn’t deserve more. Isn’t this common with trainers though, fighters agree to pay them a percentage and when the big money comes they start to begrudge parting with more dough.

Apparently FW said that he made Hatton a millionaire, and the Hatton still wanted more money

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 13:20 Anyone ever met him? I’ve heard he’s got a dry sense of humour

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 13:20 I think I heard that rumour about Froch being good with money and investing in property.

Coco wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 10:30

D4v3 wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 10:22 Very very good doc, Ray Hatton seems like a reyt slime ball, get the impression Ricky knows he’s a crook but has opted to forgive him for the sake of his own inner peace

I don't think they speak anymore

Controversial wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 13:34

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 13:20 I think I heard that rumour about Froch being good with money and investing in property.

He’s really tight with it I’ve heard but yes he invested a lot in property. I think his brother has links to the building trade.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑06 Sep 2023, 03:42

Controversial wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 13:34

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 13:20 I think I heard that rumour about Froch being good with money and investing in property.

He’s really tight with it I’ve heard but yes he invested a lot in property. I think his brother has links to the building trade.

Imagine having Froch as a landlord? Refuses to do any property repairs unless it's on PPV and with a crowd of 80,000 watching.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 11:24

Coco wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 11:00

Controversial wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 10:53

I thought the comment the mum made was quite telling that Ricky made Graham a millionaire and he still wanted more money said it a lot to me, sounded like they thought he didn’t deserve more. Isn’t this common with trainers though, fighters agree to pay them a percentage and when the big money comes they start to begrudge parting with more dough.

Apparently FW said that he made Hatton a millionaire, and the Hatton still wanted more money

I remember Brendan Ingle telling me he never had any kind of signed contract with his boxers and they'd pay him the standard 25% as set by the BBBC. But when Naseem Hamed started earning big purses Brendan had to settle for £75,000 per fight as "Chief Second" instead of the quarter of the purse he'd be entitled to as manager.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Sep 2023, 08:58

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 11:24

Coco wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023, 11:00

Apparently FW said that he made Hatton a millionaire, and the Hatton still wanted more money

I remember Brendan Ingle telling me he never had any kind of signed contract with his boxers and they'd pay him the standard 25% as set by the BBBC. But when Naseem Hamed started earning big purses Brendan had to settle for £75,000 per fight as "Chief Second" instead of the quarter of the purse he'd be entitled to as manager.

25% is a huge amount of a big purse, tbf.