Josh Kelly vs. Placido Ramirez | DAZN - 16 December 2023

Who wins?

Poll ended at 16 Dec 2023, 13:08

Kelly - Decision
6
50%
Kelly - T/KO
4
33%
DRAW
1
8%
Ramirez - T/KO
1
8%
Ramirez - Decision
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 12

wrighty
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Re: Josh Kelly vs. Placido Ramirez | DAZN - 16 December 2023

Post by wrighty »

Metcalf next or a European shot to see where he's at
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Re: Josh Kelly vs. Placido Ramirez | DAZN - 16 December 2023

Post by samwbr »

skanksta wrote: 16 Dec 2023, 21:07
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2023, 20:26 based on what?

this is pretty much exactly what he did before. have people rave over him when he'd beat soft touches

if he's so much better, his team should be a lot more confident with his match making

he hasnt even beat a euro level fighter
Well of course he'd be a big outsider and probably get splattered, but based on...

He's always been very talented, flashy athletic. IF, big massive if, he's head is right (and home support is behind him) he can win rounds against anyone. He has always looked good as a front runner and on one special stadium night he could get his nose in front, stay out of trouble and surf a wave of support to a decision win.
I mean, I'd be checking the odds of Tszyu KO carefully, because of course - you're right - he's a flaky talent that "doesn't like it up 'em". He's got form for looking $1m against cans and falling apart under pressure even from winning positions.
But yeah, just one special night - it's not that absurd.
Tim would stop him inside 8 rounds, he's not hard enough for that level of opposition.
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Re: Josh Kelly vs. Placido Ramirez | DAZN - 16 December 2023

Post by skanksta »

samwbr wrote: 17 Dec 2023, 10:57
skanksta wrote: 16 Dec 2023, 21:07
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2023, 20:26 based on what?

this is pretty much exactly what he did before. have people rave over him when he'd beat soft touches

if he's so much better, his team should be a lot more confident with his match making

he hasnt even beat a euro level fighter
Well of course he'd be a big outsider and probably get splattered, but based on...

He's always been very talented, flashy athletic. IF, big massive if, he's head is right (and home support is behind him) he can win rounds against anyone. He has always looked good as a front runner and on one special stadium night he could get his nose in front, stay out of trouble and surf a wave of support to a decision win.
I mean, I'd be checking the odds of Tszyu KO carefully, because of course - you're right - he's a flaky talent that "doesn't like it up 'em". He's got form for looking $1m against cans and falling apart under pressure even from winning positions.
But yeah, just one special night - it's not that absurd.
Tim would stop him inside 8 rounds, he's not hard enough for that level of opposition.
Yes.
Funnily enough watching McGrail vs O’Quinn on the Bam 💥 undercard last night made me suddenly think “WTF have I been smoking - Kelly won’t beat Tszyu you twat!” :doh:
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Re: Josh Kelly vs. Placido Ramirez | DAZN - 16 December 2023

Post by jwfg »

margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2023, 20:26 based on what?

this is pretty much exactly what he did before. have people rave over him when he'd beat soft touches

if he's so much better, his team should be a lot more confident with his match making

he hasnt even beat a euro level fighter
Kelly wasn't right mentally before, he is now.
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Re: Josh Kelly vs. Placido Ramirez | DAZN - 16 December 2023

Post by Bigdogsnose »

jwfg wrote: 17 Dec 2023, 12:15
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2023, 20:26 based on what?

this is pretty much exactly what he did before. have people rave over him when he'd beat soft touches

if he's so much better, his team should be a lot more confident with his match making

he hasnt even beat a euro level fighter
Kelly wasn't right mentally before, he is now.
Daresay his mental fragilities will all come to the fore again once he steps up level of competition. Tszyu would crush him.
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Re: Josh Kelly vs. Placido Ramirez | DAZN - 16 December 2023

Post by Twinkle Toes »

We'll see if he's over his mental demons when someone soaks up his shots and hits him back just as hard.

I would say the jury is still out.
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Re: Josh Kelly vs. Placido Ramirez | DAZN - 16 December 2023

Post by SeanBrennan »

Twinkle Toes wrote: 17 Dec 2023, 14:05 We'll see if he's over his mental demons when someone soaks up his shots and hits him back just as hard.

I would say the jury is still out.
Yes. Time will tell. Hope they have.
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Re: Josh Kelly vs. Placido Ramirez | DAZN - 16 December 2023

Post by stujones »

Sorry if I’m slow on the uptake but why wasn’t this on 5?
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Re: Josh Kelly vs. Placido Ramirez | DAZN - 16 December 2023

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

stujones wrote: 18 Dec 2023, 05:04 Sorry if I’m slow on the uptake but why wasn’t this on 5?
Probably ran out of dates for the year..

or budget..
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