Anthony Joshua and Louis Theroux

[Callowland]

Did someone say 'Nigel Farage' 3 times to get Shallowland to appear?

Ha ha ha.

[The Gratest]

AJ's fan club has turned up today.

There’s a handful of them on here who think they’re still in with a chance with the eligible bachelor.

Ffs Doofy, are you really going there? You need to take a good hard look in the mirror first.

[maverick23]

I don't disagree Fury made comments to which got him into trouble. That's fact and there was media outrage at the time.
Of course your interpretation of Joshua's comments are liberal. I take a different view because part of that speech in my opinion had a 1930's feel to it, asking people to abstain from spending money in 'their' shops and economies and invest in Black owned businesses. That to most people is a fairly highly charged segregationist statement. Joshua is a very well known celebrity and should have known better. If Fury had said to deliberately avoid Black and Asian businesses do you really think he would get off scot free. I think he would have been prosecuted and imprisoned.
I am comfortable with my interpretation of that speech.

At the start of the speech AJ made clear whose letter/speech he was reading. If those words had been his own then perhaps I’d have thought differently but they weren’t. It was probably the first time he’d even read those words.

I’d fee exactly the same if Fury had said those words if they weren’t his and he was referencing non-Gypsies.

At best, shouldn't he have checked and vetted what he was reading well in advance, and made a considered decision to withdraw from any participation in it, as it clearly in my opinion makes reference to segregation. I contend there's a strong possibility that he had a discussion about it well in advance, knew what he was going to read, and did it because he may have agreed with it. I can't believe that he turned up and read it off the cuff. That wouldn't make any sense.

He didn’t know whether it was a poem or a speech and he also didn’t know who wrote it. He was seemingly given it to read by someone else and didn’t bring it himself. If he thought it may be a poem and didn’t know who wrote it then it makes me think he didn’t know what was in it.

He spoke his own words before going into the speech and I think spoke fairly well saying that it wasn’t black vs white etc and thanking non-Afro Caribbean people for their support.

Should he have read it before speaking those words publicly. Of course not and I’m sure he won’t do that again.

[Callowland]

At the start of the speech AJ made clear whose letter/speech he was reading. If those words had been his own then perhaps I’d have thought differently but they weren’t. It was probably the first time he’d even read those words.

I’d fee exactly the same if Fury had said those words if they weren’t his and he was referencing non-Gypsies.

At best, shouldn't he have checked and vetted what he was reading well in advance, and made a considered decision to withdraw from any participation in it, as it clearly in my opinion makes reference to segregation. I contend there's a strong possibility that he had a discussion about it well in advance, knew what he was going to read, and did it because he may have agreed with it. I can't believe that he turned up and read it off the cuff. That wouldn't make any sense.

He didn’t know whether it was a poem or a speech and he also didn’t know who wrote it. He was seemingly given it to read by someone else and didn’t bring it himself. If he thought it may be a poem and didn’t know who wrote it then it makes me think he didn’t know what was in it.

He spoke his own words before going into the speech and I think spoke fairly well saying that it wasn’t black vs white etc and thanking non-Afro Caribbean people for their support.

Should he have read it before speaking those words publicly. Of course not and I’m sure he won’t do that again.

Probably a lesson learnt in hindsight.

[maverick23]

At best, shouldn't he have checked and vetted what he was reading well in advance, and made a considered decision to withdraw from any participation in it, as it clearly in my opinion makes reference to segregation. I contend there's a strong possibility that he had a discussion about it well in advance, knew what he was going to read, and did it because he may have agreed with it. I can't believe that he turned up and read it off the cuff. That wouldn't make any sense.

He didn’t know whether it was a poem or a speech and he also didn’t know who wrote it. He was seemingly given it to read by someone else and didn’t bring it himself. If he thought it may be a poem and didn’t know who wrote it then it makes me think he didn’t know what was in it.

He spoke his own words before going into the speech and I think spoke fairly well saying that it wasn’t black vs white etc and thanking non-Afro Caribbean people for their support.

Should he have read it before speaking those words publicly. Of course not and I’m sure he won’t do that again.

Probably a lesson learnt in hindsight.

Definitely. When I first saw it (just the video of him reading the speech) I thought it was bad in the same way you probably did but the extended video shows it was probably more him being really naive rather than him having a vendetta against white people.

[BigDoofus]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4981774/a ... -snapchat/


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[The Gratest]

Oh here we go. Doofy, the 'boxing fan' who doesn't even post about big fights like Joyce v Zhang, or anything else boxing related, suddenly gets his willy out and starts smacking it around at the mere mention of Anthony Joshua. To think he tried to insinuate that others were attracted to AJ.
Dirty old man.

[blanca]

Did someone say 'Nigel Farage' 3 times to get Shallowland to appear?

[SeanBrennan]

there are some odd people. it's not a fan club to not whine about someone making a comment years ago. I think some people like to try to point score about nothing.

[The Gratest]

I'm glad I never made it as a famous painter. Fk me, the stupid shit I used to write in drunken txt messages years ago...urgh, what a complete dipshit!

[BigDoofus]

Oh here we go. Doofy, the 'boxing fan' who doesn't even post about big fights like Joyce v Zhang, or anything else boxing related, suddenly gets his willy out and starts smacking it around at the mere mention of Anthony Joshua. To think he tried to insinuate that others were attracted to AJ.
Dirty old man.

The troll becomes hysterical.
Did Joshua’s comments on Mugabe and the “superior race” tip you over the edge?

[BigDoofus]

there are some odd people.

Theroux’s just done a programme with one who lives with his Mum and raps about guns.

[The Gratest]

Oh here we go. Doofy, the 'boxing fan' who doesn't even post about big fights like Joyce v Zhang, or anything else boxing related, suddenly gets his willy out and starts smacking it around at the mere mention of Anthony Joshua. To think he tried to insinuate that others were attracted to AJ.
Dirty old man.

The troll becomes hysterical.
Did Joshua’s comments on Mugabe and the “superior race” tip you over the edge?

There you go again, proving my point...Joshua Joshua Joshua (with the occasional repetitive post about Usyk when reminded about Fury ducking him). To call someone else a troll when that is ALL you ever post about, now that's hypocritical and quite hysterical. You're a funny guy Doofy, in a not meaning to be funny way.

What's also quite hypocritical is you insinuating that some of the posters on here are attracted to AJ (I can admit he's a good looking guy, in a non gay way though), when you prance around the stage half naked, fawning, pawing and cuddling Iron Mike whilst looking like a regular from The Blue Oyster Bar.

[tonyevs]

I watched this last night - as expected it was a good interview.
Louis Theroux put Joshua on the spot with some very direct questions and criticisms. Such as him being gun-shy etc.
The only question I think Theroux missed was about Joshua's racist posts and remarks.

Overall I think Joshua came across very well (apart from his cringe rapping) He clearly has desire to regain the belts and the money seems an aside to this.

[SeanBrennan]

be interesting to know if they were briefed not to ask certain questions. Seeing Louis though, he would ask them anyway. Remember him interviewing that crazy church guy, I thought he was going to be lynched, ditto the KKK people.

[tonyevs]

Theroux is very good at getting people to open up. He uses lots of communication skills which probably go unnoticed. His use of silence is often perfectly done.

He would do a good interview with Tyson Fury. Theroux is clever enough to know deflections and bullsh1t, and experienced enough to keep on the right lines of conversation to get to the honest answers he wants .. for those reasons I'd imagine Fury would avoid the interview with Theroux as he would a WADA rep with a plastic bottle in his hand

[SeanBrennan]

Theroux is very good at getting people to open up. He uses lots of communication skills which probably go unnoticed. His use of silence is often perfectly done.

He would do a good interview with Tyson Fury. Theroux is clever enough to know deflections and bullsh1t, and experienced enough to keep on the right lines of conversation to get to the honest answers he wants .. for those reasons I'd imagine Fury would avoid the interview with Theroux as he would a WADA rep with a plastic bottle in his hand

good point re the silences, as people nearly always felt compelled to fill the silence as there's something about silence that makes people feel uncomfortable.

[tonyevs]

Theroux is very good at getting people to open up. He uses lots of communication skills which probably go unnoticed. His use of silence is often perfectly done.

He would do a good interview with Tyson Fury. Theroux is clever enough to know deflections and bullsh1t, and experienced enough to keep on the right lines of conversation to get to the honest answers he wants .. for those reasons I'd imagine Fury would avoid the interview with Theroux as he would a WADA rep with a plastic bottle in his hand

good point re the silences, as people nearly always felt compelled to fill the silence as there's something about silence that makes people feel uncomfortable.

Yes - most people feel awkward with silence and will feel easier speaking to avoid it. It's a proper skill to use silence correctly. Over done and without other active listening skills it can feel like intimidation. Theroux does it very well.

[BigDoofus]

Oh here we go. Doofy, the 'boxing fan' who doesn't even post about big fights like Joyce v Zhang, or anything else boxing related, suddenly gets his willy out and starts smacking it around at the mere mention of Anthony Joshua. To think he tried to insinuate that others were attracted to AJ.
Dirty old man.

The troll becomes hysterical.
Did Joshua’s comments on Mugabe and the “superior race” tip you over the edge?

There you go again, proving my point...Joshua Joshua Joshua (with the occasional repetitive post about Usyk when reminded about Fury ducking him). To call someone else a troll when that is ALL you ever post about, now that's hypocritical and quite hysterical. You're a funny guy Doofy, in a not meaning to be funny way.

What's also quite hypocritical is you insinuating that some of the posters on here are attracted to AJ (I can admit he's a good looking guy, in a non gay way though), when you prance around the stage half naked, fawning, pawing and cuddling Iron Mike whilst looking like a regular from The Blue Oyster Bar.

The Gratest troll spends his day posting laughing emojis.
Somebody posts links to his favourite pin-up boy's comments on race and Robert Mugabe and he has a meltdown.

[The Gratest]

The troll becomes hysterical.
Did Joshua’s comments on Mugabe and the “superior race” tip you over the edge?

There you go again, proving my point...Joshua Joshua Joshua (with the occasional repetitive post about Usyk when reminded about Fury ducking him). To call someone else a troll when that is ALL you ever post about, now that's hypocritical and quite hysterical. You're a funny guy Doofy, in a not meaning to be funny way.

What's also quite hypocritical is you insinuating that some of the posters on here are attracted to AJ (I can admit he's a good looking guy, in a non gay way though), when you prance around the stage half naked, fawning, pawing and cuddling Iron Mike whilst looking like a regular from The Blue Oyster Bar.

The Gratest troll spends his day posting laughing emojis.
Somebody posts links to his favourite pin-up boy's comments on race and Robert Mugabe and he has a meltdown.

Why don't you post something about boxing rather than repetitive posts about Joshua or Usyk?
You're the biggest troll on here Doofy

Now off you scuttle to the Blue Oyster Bar.

[The Gratest]

Can we get back on topic now please?
I haven't watched the interview yet but intend to.

[jwfg]

There you go again, proving my point...Joshua Joshua Joshua (with the occasional repetitive post about Usyk when reminded about Fury ducking him). To call someone else a troll when that is ALL you ever post about, now that's hypocritical and quite hysterical. You're a funny guy Doofy, in a not meaning to be funny way.

What's also quite hypocritical is you insinuating that some of the posters on here are attracted to AJ (I can admit he's a good looking guy, in a non gay way though), when you prance around the stage half naked, fawning, pawing and cuddling Iron Mike whilst looking like a regular from The Blue Oyster Bar.

The Gratest troll spends his day posting laughing emojis.
Somebody posts links to his favourite pin-up boy's comments on race and Robert Mugabe and he has a meltdown.

Why don't you post something about boxing rather than repetitive posts about Joshua or Usyk?
You're the biggest troll on here Doofy

Now off you scuttle to the Blue Oyster Bar.

I asked him to discuss Japanese light flyweights, but he declined.

[SeanBrennan]

Theroux is very good at getting people to open up. He uses lots of communication skills which probably go unnoticed. His use of silence is often perfectly done.

He would do a good interview with Tyson Fury. Theroux is clever enough to know deflections and bullsh1t, and experienced enough to keep on the right lines of conversation to get to the honest answers he wants .. for those reasons I'd imagine Fury would avoid the interview with Theroux as he would a WADA rep with a plastic bottle in his hand

good point re the silences, as people nearly always felt compelled to fill the silence as there's something about silence that makes people feel uncomfortable.

Yes - most people feel awkward with silence and will feel easier speaking to avoid it. It's a proper skill to use silence correctly. Over done and without other active listening skills it can feel like intimidation. Theroux does it very well.

My wife uses it well. I just lob a preemptive sorry in to cover the base.

[The Gratest]

good point re the silences, as people nearly always felt compelled to fill the silence as there's something about silence that makes people feel uncomfortable.

Yes - most people feel awkward with silence and will feel easier speaking to avoid it. It's a proper skill to use silence correctly. Over done and without other active listening skills it can feel like intimidation. Theroux does it very well.

My wife uses it well. I just lob a preemptive sorry in to cover the base.

Does she not get fed up getting woken up at 3am mate?

[SeanBrennan]

Yes - most people feel awkward with silence and will feel easier speaking to avoid it. It's a proper skill to use silence correctly. Over done and without other active listening skills it can feel like intimidation. Theroux does it very well.

My wife uses it well. I just lob a preemptive sorry in to cover the base.

Does she not get fed up getting woken up at 3am mate?

We have 5 cats and a 12 year old daughter, we're woken up regularly with one of them whining so it's all good. And my CPAP machine ensures she never really gets a decent sleep.

I spoil her.