funso banjo baby wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024, 05:26
Joshua should stop him inside 6,
Based on what?
Based on the fact that Ngannou has an iron chin, even Fury's elbow didn't faze him, and....wait
Only fatigue can stop Ngannou, so it won't happen inside 6. I'm torn as to whether it goes the distance or not, but I think Joshua handles Ngannou a lot better than Fury did.
Only possible blip is that Joshua won't handle getting knocked down as well as Fury did. But I think Joshua will be able to stay out of trouble--even though Ngannou's looping shots are a lot like Ruiz's, he won't underestimate Ngannou.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 06 Mar 2024, 11:19
by tiny_acres
Funny that just 5 years ago before the Andy Ruiz loss.
People on this forum actually argued that Joshua was a top 10 ATG.
NOW we are wondering if he can beat a fighter who is 0-1. Man have the times changed.
I do think Joshua will fight like he did in the 2nd Ruiz fight and avoid engagement. Joshua should win a wide ud. But if he does go down he will lose all confidence and get pummeled
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 06 Mar 2024, 12:10
by quickeyg
Press conference starting now.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 06 Mar 2024, 16:47
by Thomastearns
tiny_acres wrote: ↑06 Mar 2024, 11:19
Funny that just 5 years ago before the Andy Ruiz loss. People on this forum actually argued that Joshua was a top 10 ATG.
NOW we are wondering if he can beat a fighter who is 0-1. Man have the times changed.
I do think Joshua will fight like he did in the 2nd Ruiz fight and avoid engagement. Joshua should win a wide ud. But if he does go down he will lose all confidence and get pummeled
I remember some were even arguing that he was the best ever.
Their reasoning was that he is a technically improved version of our beloved Frank Bruno.
Well, all these years later, we can safely say that he is, usually, but sometimes he is isn't.
Against Ngannou on Friday night he's going to have to be.
I don't see him stopping Francis Ngannou. Not after the way Ngannou shrugged off Fury's desperately blatant elbow to the face in round 6 of their encounter.
As Fury finally confessed under pressure some time later -
"The one thing I can gauge is I hit him [Ngannou] with some flush punches in the face, quite a lot, and even an elbow right in the face.
"He never went over, so regardless of my performance and his performance, I know he’s a tough son of a gun."
Weights are going to be very important.
I'm sure Ngannou has learned more since Fury, he has the power to create problems.
Joshua can dig deep and has enough of both sides [Skill and Power]to squeak it out if he goes all in.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 07 Mar 2024, 05:10
by tonyevs
Ngannou came across a decent fella at the press conference. Respectful and just basically nice .. even when he put Fury back in his box
AJ seems very respectful of Ngannou too. He seemed like he didn't want to say the slightest bit off to him.
Will be an interesting fight.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 07 Mar 2024, 20:21
by Perkin Warbeck
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 07 Mar 2024, 23:27
by SportsRatings
tonyevs wrote: ↑07 Mar 2024, 05:10
Ngannou came across a decent fella at the press conference. Respectful and just basically nice .. even when he put Fury back in his box
AJ seems very respectful of Ngannou too. He seemed like he didn't want to say the slightest bit off to him.
Will be an interesting fight.
Ngannou is a genuinely good human being, he's so un-fake it's refreshing. It takes a while for it to sink in that he really is the way he comes across.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 03:34
by tonyevs
Yes I think that came across.
It was certainly a reality check for Tyson Fury when he repeated his boring routine of calling someone a dosser etc, which has previously gone down well with the crowd, but found himself looking an idiot and a toothless tiger when Ngannou basically told him if he said it anywhere close to him Fury would find himself having a bad day .. a nice way of saying it'll cost Fury a tooth or two next time
Fury looked intimidated. And it was still on his mind when he complained about it later, opining that Ngannou had been disrespectful because Fury had given him the big pay day previously ..
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 11:24
by Roars Like Me
Once this fight is over along with the Tyson/Usyk (along with any rematches) it could well be down to just Usyk/Ngannou...not something I really have considered until now....
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 11:28
by quickeyg
Anthony Joshua's body language shows he's FEARFUL of Francis Ngannou
It's very telling.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 11:46
by tonyevs
quickeyg wrote: ↑08 Mar 2024, 11:28
Anthony Joshua's body language shows he's FEARFUL of Francis Ngannou
It's very telling.
I agree.
And its a good sign too. It shows he is taking this very seriously.
Ngannou is a very big and strong guy who can fight. Whether that will be enough to bridge the gap between an accomplished boxer like Joshua is another thing.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 11:47
by BroughtonRulesRefuge
tiny_acres wrote: ↑06 Mar 2024, 11:19
Funny that just 5 years ago before the Andy Ruiz loss.
People on this forum actually argued that Joshua was a top 10 ATG.
NOW we are wondering if he can beat a fighter who is 0-1. Man have the times changed.
I do think Joshua will fight like he did in the 2nd Ruiz fight and avoid engagement. Joshua should win a wide ud. But if he does go down he will lose all confidence and get pummeled
- Funnier that Kalan was such a dominant intellect in your memory that he represents a dozen Boxreccers now...yeah!!!
In the history section I ran AJ's record when he was scheduled to fight Wlad against Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Rocky, Ali, Holmes, Mike Tyson, Lewis, and Wlad in a developmental timeline comparison and AJ was doing considerably more early in his career than most. Net take was AJ was and still is having a stellar career, and in spite of subsequent setbacks currently having been overcome, he will be remembered quite fondly for putting excitement and HUGE $$$ back into boxing, at least for top heavies fighting him, as well as supporting the UK Olympic Boxing teams and various gyms, ect, plus hopefully learning to stay out of the no win dirt of politics.
AJ massacred Fat Andy's face in such a graphic way, the splattering bloody mess could've, perhaps should've been stopped as poor Andy never had a chance in that rematch
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 12:14
by Ruthless-RKO
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Running Order
Preliminary Card - 6:20 pm Local
8 Round Heavyweight Contest
Andrii Novytskyi vs. Juan Torres
Followed by
6 Round Super Lightweight Contest
Ziyad Almaayouf vs. Christian Lopez Flores
Followed by
4 Round Heavyweight Contest
Roman Fury vs. Martin Svarc
Followed by
10 Round Super Welterweight Contest
Jack McGann vs. Louis Greene
Preliminary Card - 9:20 pm Local
10 Round Heavyweight Contest
Justis Huni vs. Kevin Lerena
Followed by
12 Round Lightweight Contest
Mark Chamberlain vs. Gavin Gwynne
Followed by
WBC Featherweight Championship
Rey Vargas vs. Nick Ball
Followed by
Vacant WBA Super Welterweight Championship
Israil Madrimov vs. Magomed Kurbanov
Followed by
Interim WBO Heavyweight Championship
Zhilei Zhang vs. Joseph Parker
Followed by
10 Round Heavyweight Contest
Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 12:40
by skanksta
Pts win for Saudi prospect Almayouf ( sp?) over Flores.
Who's watching ? Roman Fury up next...
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 13:41
by geronimo
Strange fight... Ngannou did something extraordinery against Fury, he fought his First professional boxing match with One of the greatest boxers out there. Otherwise Fury weight 126 kg and probably did bit take the fight seriously. I'm gonna say Joshua via KO.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 16:59
by 1336502
I honestly have Joshua by decision
Probably competitive but clear for Joshua. Ive never seen Ngannou hurt, closest he got was when he was gassed and Stipe landed a solid right hand before exiting. I think the big thing is I can see Ngannou winning rounds.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 18:19
by JxhDel.
86 - 84 Vargas, but Ball is gaining momentum since the 7th.
Madrimov DEMOLISHED hyped Kurbanov, happy for him (same for Chamberlain).
Huni/Lerena was competitive and fun, Justis moved well. Roman Fury an Aldi version of his brother
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 18:27
by JxhDel.
114 - 112 Ball. The human moped overcame his dad with his relentless assaults, guy is a unit
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 18:39
by JxhDel.
Could have also been a 113 - 113 but I thought Ball edged it. Whatever
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 19:41
by Thomastearns
Full credit to Parker for keeping a cool head after that knockdown in the 3rd.
He's taken a couple of big shots and barely survived the 8th but he's still in there.
Tough 4 rounds remaining.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 19:59
by Thomastearns
The Parker plan worked and he finishes the stronger.
Zhang should also have insisted on 10 rounds like Ngannou.
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 20:05
by JxhDel.
Draw-ish but Joseph ruled the last four rounds and Zhang squandered it like he did against Hrgovic. It could be too late for him to have a shot, meanwhile kudos to Chief Joe to his newfound determination
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 20:05
by KiwiRider
Thomastearns wrote: ↑08 Mar 2024, 19:59
The Parker plan worked and he finishes the stronger.
Zhang should also have insisted on 10 rounds like Ngannou.
Yeah, those last two rounds sealed it for Parker.
There is a rematch clause unfortunately
Re: Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024
Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 20:18
by lazboy
David Haye: AJ is "bio-dynamically efficient"
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