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KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Feb 2024, 23:37 Joseph Parker should be called Average Joe.

What's his chin like?
About average.

What's his stamina like?
Average.

What's his power like?
Average.

And his boxing skills?
Pretty average.

So a combination of average makes a fairly handy heavyweight fighter these days. The change in trainer is paying off though. This version of Parker is best so far.

he has really fast hands though tbf.........although his accuracy is........... average

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Feb 2024, 23:37 Joseph Parker should be called Average Joe.

What's his chin like?
About average.

What's his stamina like?
Average.

What's his power like?
Average.

And his boxing skills?
Pretty average.

So a combination of average makes a fairly handy heavyweight fighter these days. The change in trainer is paying off though. This version of Parker is best so far.

Parker has shown one of the best chins of the 2000's... hard to call it average.

gregregegg wrote: ↑27 Feb 2024, 04:22

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Feb 2024, 23:37 Joseph Parker should be called Average Joe.

What's his chin like?
About average.

What's his stamina like?
Average.

What's his power like?
Average.

And his boxing skills?
Pretty average.

So a combination of average makes a fairly handy heavyweight fighter these days. The change in trainer is paying off though. This version of Parker is best so far.

Parker has shown one of the best chins of the 2000's... hard to call it average.

Probably better to say that he doesn't excel in any area.

Relatively small heavy in this day and age

Coco wrote: ↑27 Feb 2024, 05:31

gregregegg wrote: ↑27 Feb 2024, 04:22

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Feb 2024, 23:37 Joseph Parker should be called Average Joe.

What's his chin like?
About average.

What's his stamina like?
Average.

What's his power like?
Average.

And his boxing skills?
Pretty average.

So a combination of average makes a fairly handy heavyweight fighter these days. The change in trainer is paying off though. This version of Parker is best so far.

Parker has shown one of the best chins of the 2000's... hard to call it average.

Probably better to say that he doesn't excel in any area.

Relatively small heavy in this day and age

crazy that that is true, 6ft 4 and over 17 stone. We do have some giants in the sport these days.

If it goes under 6 rounds - Zhang wins
If it goes over 6 rounds - Parker wins.

parker out points zang but will have some heavy bombs to avoid early doors .

stevec@france wrote: ↑27 Feb 2024, 14:31 parker out points zang but will have some heavy bombs to avoid early doors .

this is what I hope happens.

gregregegg wrote: ↑27 Feb 2024, 04:22

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Feb 2024, 23:37 Joseph Parker should be called Average Joe.

What's his chin like?
About average.

What's his stamina like?
Average.

What's his power like?
Average.

And his boxing skills?
Pretty average.

So a combination of average makes a fairly handy heavyweight fighter these days. The change in trainer is paying off though. This version of Parker is best so far.

Parker has shown one of the best chins of the 2000's... hard to call it average.

What I ment was, he doesn't have any special powers. Just a combination of things that add up to the success he has had.
No one really raves about any one thing from him.
Also, Chisora and Whyte put him down and Joyce stopped him, that's why I rate his chin as average, its not the iron or the glass jaw, its an average jaw.

Zhang beat him in the amateurs at the 2011 world championships too.

Have to be honest - I just dont like Zhang .
My bad I know but I think whoever he was fighting I would root for the other guy !

stevec@france wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 06:21 Have to be honest - I just dont like Zhang .
My bad I know but I think whoever he was fighting I would root for the other guy !

you may be Zhangist Steve.

Parker has massive amounts or courage. Will go in with anyone. Very refreshing, but equally, I hope he doesn't have too many hard fights.

Incredibly likeable guy.

Presumably Parker’s form is all typical boxing smoke and mirrors. I’d take Zhang to beat him up over 6 or 7 rounds.

polecateddy wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 08:16 Presumably Parker’s form is all typical boxing smoke and mirrors. I’d take Zhang to beat him up over 6 or 7 rounds.

I agree

Parker didn’t have to be very good to beat a shot to bits Deontay Wilder.

Zhang would be a lot stronger opponent

I'm not sure we know Wilder is shot to bits, he's only been stopped by the WBC champion. One bad performance does not mean shot.

polecateddy wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 08:16 Presumably Parker’s form is all typical boxing smoke and mirrors. I’d take Zhang to beat him up over 6 or 7 rounds.

If this is true it sheds more light on the Fury form line.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 16:58 I'm not sure we know Wilder is shot to bits, he's only been stopped by the WBC champion. One bad performance does not mean shot.

I agree. Wilder didn't look shot when blasting out Helenius inside a round.

A thing that Wilder is surely great at, and what nobody gives him credit for. Is being able to elevate anyone who beats him to being considered levels above what they were considered before they beat him ..

tonyevs wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024, 03:38 A thing that Wilder is surely great at, and what nobody gives him credit for. Is being able to elevate anyone who beats him to being considered levels above what they were considered before they beat him ..

Even Ortiz got top 5 shouts for losing to him twice

tonyevs wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024, 03:38 A thing that Wilder is surely great at, and what nobody gives him credit for. Is being able to elevate anyone who beats him to being considered levels above what they were considered before they beat him ..

definitely.

big lennox wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 20:47

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 16:58 I'm not sure we know Wilder is shot to bits, he's only been stopped by the WBC champion. One bad performance does not mean shot.

I agree. Wilder didn't look shot when blasting out Helenius inside a round.

Sorry chaps disagree.

I think Wilder is shot to bits.

I remember and thoughly enjoyed watching Deontay sparring at. Hayemaker HQ

Spud wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024, 14:28

big lennox wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 20:47

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 16:58 I'm not sure we know Wilder is shot to bits, he's only been stopped by the WBC champion. One bad performance does not mean shot.

I agree. Wilder didn't look shot when blasting out Helenius inside a round.

Sorry chaps disagree.

I think Wilder is shot to bits.

I remember and thoughly enjoyed watching Deontay sparring at. Hayemaker HQ

What is his power like from close proximity? They must have been fabulous sparring sessions to watch.

Did you get to know Deontay or was standoffish? He seems quite talkative in interviews.

Why does Wilder appear shot to you? Is it his timing or speed? He has such an unusual style that it's hard to gage.

big lennox wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024, 15:07

Spud wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024, 14:28

big lennox wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 20:47

I agree. Wilder didn't look shot when blasting out Helenius inside a round.

Sorry chaps disagree.

I think Wilder is shot to bits.

I remember and thoughly enjoyed watching Deontay sparring at. Hayemaker HQ

What is his power like from close proximity? They must have been fabulous sparring sessions to watch.

Did you get to know Deontay or was standoffish? He seems quite talkative in interviews.

Why does Wilder appear shot to you? Is it his timing or speed? He has such an unusual style that it's hard to gage.

He was a fantastic bloke. I spent hours with him talking boxing.

His speed and timing was excellent in sparring as it was in his fights. Prior to the Fury fights.

Alas I think Tyson has punched the fight out of Deontay.

nice to hear that he's a nice fella.

Spud wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024, 16:02

big lennox wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024, 15:07

Spud wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024, 14:28

Sorry chaps disagree.

I think Wilder is shot to bits.

I remember and thoughly enjoyed watching Deontay sparring at. Hayemaker HQ

What is his power like from close proximity? They must have been fabulous sparring sessions to watch.

Did you get to know Deontay or was standoffish? He seems quite talkative in interviews.

Why does Wilder appear shot to you? Is it his timing or speed? He has such an unusual style that it's hard to gage.

He was a fantastic bloke. I spent hours with him talking boxing.

His speed and timing was excellent in sparring as it was in his fights. Prior to the Fury fights.

Alas I think Tyson has punched the fight out of Deontay.

I wonder if Wilder has punched the fight out of Fury a little, too. Their third fight was absolutely brutal. Too hard, for both of them.

If Wilder is a spent force then I sincerely hope he retires rather than become a 'name' for people to have on their records.

I hope you write your memoirs someday. Would be a fascinating read: serving one's country and the boxing industry. I hope you are proud of your career and get it recorded for posterity.