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Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 12:27
by deadpan
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Oct 2024, 15:34 They’ve promoting the fight in Arndale.

Digital posters.

Says ‘remaining tickets available’
Strange syntax. Aren't all remaining tickets available?

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 13:46
by Ruthless-RKO
deadpan wrote: 23 Oct 2024, 12:27
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Oct 2024, 15:34 They’ve promoting the fight in Arndale.

Digital posters.

Says ‘remaining tickets available’
Strange syntax. Aren't all remaining tickets available?
Something like that. I think they’re trying to say, get the remaining tickets whilst they still available.

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 14:42
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Oct 2024, 19:37 its not just losing to haney, he looked dreadful vs dani zorrila and could barely land a punch. i thought he was very fortunate to get the split decision

cat has a style to recreate the troubles prograis has had vs guys who can box and move
I rewatched the Zorrila fight (extended highlights) and thought Regis did OK. Not great, but OK. After Zorrilla got clipped, and dished out his best to Prograis, he then spent 9 rounds on his bike, using his major height and reach advantages and still lost a close one. The part I feel that Regis has slipped is his timing. Power and stamina are still there. So I stand by my "a bit more than a puncher's chance" and maybe I'm wrong.

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 15:02
by forcefraser
Forgot about this fight. Not had much promotion

Wonder how many tickets they sold.. Didn't they downsize the venue?

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 15:39
by maverick23
forcefraser wrote: 23 Oct 2024, 15:02 Forgot about this fight. Not had much promotion

Wonder how many tickets they sold.. Didn't they downsize the venue?
No - it’s at the biggest indoor arena in the U.K. as their first boxing show.

I think it’s sold ok in relation to the fighters on the show but the place will only be 25-30% full.

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 16:10
by mickey1975
maverick23 wrote: 23 Oct 2024, 15:39
forcefraser wrote: 23 Oct 2024, 15:02 Forgot about this fight. Not had much promotion

Wonder how many tickets they sold.. Didn't they downsize the venue?
No - it’s at the biggest indoor arena in the U.K. as their first boxing show.

I think it’s sold ok in relation to the fighters on the show but the place will only be 25-30% full.
I guess he means only opening up so much of it. It looks pretty much sold for what they set it up for.

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 16:34
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: 23 Oct 2024, 16:10
maverick23 wrote: 23 Oct 2024, 15:39
forcefraser wrote: 23 Oct 2024, 15:02 Forgot about this fight. Not had much promotion

Wonder how many tickets they sold.. Didn't they downsize the venue?
No - it’s at the biggest indoor arena in the U.K. as their first boxing show.

I think it’s sold ok in relation to the fighters on the show but the place will only be 25-30% full.
I guess he means only opening up so much of it. It looks pretty much sold for what they set it up for.
Gotcha. :TU:

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 10:46
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 10:46
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 16:40
by rd350lc
Is there anything decent on the undercard?

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 24 August 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:11
by CaptainSpacerod
KiwiRider wrote: 20 Oct 2024, 16:21
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 24 Jun 2024, 12:10 So he’s working his way through washed up light welters

Who’s next …. Broner ?
Prograis is on the slide agreed, but losing to Haney, and a peaking Josh Taylor is nothing to be ashamed of. And the Taylor fight was close.
Reggie hits hard, especially to the body. Taylor still says it's the hardest he's been hit. Catterall will have to work hard all fight because Prograis carries power late. Hardly washed up, and I'd give Prograis more than just a puncher's chance.
The Taylor fight was many years ago, it's his two most recent fights that suggest he's way over the hill. Losing to Haney has happened to every legal fighter he's faced so no shame in a loss but the way he was completely dominated for 12 rounds isn't a good sign. The Prograis who fought Josh would've given Haney a lot more to think about.

My comment wasn't so much a dig at Prograis who i like, it was more to question why Catterall isn't in a more meaningful fight. He's past 30 now, he's gotta strike while the iron's hot

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 24 August 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:26
by JamesPhilips
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:11
KiwiRider wrote: 20 Oct 2024, 16:21
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 24 Jun 2024, 12:10 So he’s working his way through washed up light welters

Who’s next …. Broner ?
Prograis is on the slide agreed, but losing to Haney, and a peaking Josh Taylor is nothing to be ashamed of. And the Taylor fight was close.
Reggie hits hard, especially to the body. Taylor still says it's the hardest he's been hit. Catterall will have to work hard all fight because Prograis carries power late. Hardly washed up, and I'd give Prograis more than just a puncher's chance.
The Taylor fight was many years ago, it's his two most recent fights that suggest he's way over the hill. Losing to Haney has happened to every legal fighter he's faced so no shame in a loss but the way he was completely dominated for 12 rounds isn't a good sign. The Prograis who fought Josh would've given Haney a lot more to think about.

My comment wasn't so much a dig at Prograis who i like, it was more to question why Catterall isn't in a more meaningful fight. He's past 30 now, he's gotta strike while the iron's hot
He looks in good shape Prograis. Also Haney had a significant weight advantage (I think) on the night. Has Catterall ever been hurt? He will not come in as big as Haney.

Found this



So an 8 and a half pound weight advantage. Significant.

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:34
by Coco
For both, that is a hell of a lot of weight to put on, half a stone in fluids easy enough, but they are huge weight cuts

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:37
by JamesPhilips
Coco wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:34 For both, that is a hell of a lot of weight to put on, half a stone in fluids easy enough, but they are huge weight cuts
25lbs??? That nuts for a 140lber. I’ve never heard of such a jump. Have you? That’s a 17.85% weight increase overnight.

Does Haney use an IV drip?

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:38
by margaret thatcher
and i thought munguia jumping from 154 to 176 on fight night was huge :oo

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:39
by margaret thatcher
its one area where i think some 'old timers' really havent gotten to grasp the magnitude of how different the size game is today

you have super middles who woulda been heavies in the past

and sometimes people talk about light weights, welters etc like those are small guys. but reality is many of them are walking around between fights at 160-170 and are more in shape than the average guy at those weights. put on the same spare tire as your average bloke and theyd be even heavier

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:42
by Coco
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:39 its one area where i think some 'old timers' really havent gotten to grasp the magnitude of how different the size game is today

you have super middles who woulda been heavies in the past
Are you calling me an old timer!!!

The most I did was lose 10lbs in 24 hours, then put it straight back on, most of that was water

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:43
by margaret thatcher
nah, not you, but it is such a different landscape today with weights.perhaps its the area of boxing where things are most different compared to generations from decades back.

having the day before weigh in gives fighters that room to do these things

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:46
by JamesPhilips
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:39 its one area where i think some 'old timers' really havent gotten to grasp the magnitude of how different the size game is today

you have super middles who woulda been heavies in the past

and sometimes people talk about light weights, welters etc like those are small guys. but reality is many of them are walking around between fights at 160-170 and are more in shape than the average guy at those weights. put on the same spare tire as your average bloke and theyd be even heavier
I think it’s made boxing safer than same day weigh ins but has created a different problem. Weight bullies.

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:49
by Coco
JamesPhilips wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:46
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:39 its one area where i think some 'old timers' really havent gotten to grasp the magnitude of how different the size game is today

you have super middles who woulda been heavies in the past

and sometimes people talk about light weights, welters etc like those are small guys. but reality is many of them are walking around between fights at 160-170 and are more in shape than the average guy at those weights. put on the same spare tire as your average bloke and theyd be even heavier
I think it’s made boxing safer than same day weigh ins but has created a different problem. Weight bullies.
I did the 10lbs with a the 24( in reality 30 odd hour) weigh in.
Couldn't and wouldn't have done it with the same day.

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 24 August 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:56
by CaptainSpacerod
JamesPhilips wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:26
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:11
KiwiRider wrote: 20 Oct 2024, 16:21

Prograis is on the slide agreed, but losing to Haney, and a peaking Josh Taylor is nothing to be ashamed of. And the Taylor fight was close.
Reggie hits hard, especially to the body. Taylor still says it's the hardest he's been hit. Catterall will have to work hard all fight because Prograis carries power late. Hardly washed up, and I'd give Prograis more than just a puncher's chance.
The Taylor fight was many years ago, it's his two most recent fights that suggest he's way over the hill. Losing to Haney has happened to every legal fighter he's faced so no shame in a loss but the way he was completely dominated for 12 rounds isn't a good sign. The Prograis who fought Josh would've given Haney a lot more to think about.

My comment wasn't so much a dig at Prograis who i like, it was more to question why Catterall isn't in a more meaningful fight. He's past 30 now, he's gotta strike while the iron's hot
He looks in good shape Prograis. Also Haney had a significant weight advantage (I think) on the night. Has Catterall ever been hurt? He will not come in as big as Haney.

Found this



So an 8 and a half pound weight advantage. Significant.
I didn't know that and it would've been a factor but whether that accounts for how utterly outclassed Prograis was I'm not sure tbh

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 17:56
by JamesPhilips
Coco wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:49
JamesPhilips wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:46
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:39 its one area where i think some 'old timers' really havent gotten to grasp the magnitude of how different the size game is today

you have super middles who woulda been heavies in the past

and sometimes people talk about light weights, welters etc like those are small guys. but reality is many of them are walking around between fights at 160-170 and are more in shape than the average guy at those weights. put on the same spare tire as your average bloke and theyd be even heavier
I think it’s made boxing safer than same day weigh ins but has created a different problem. Weight bullies.
I did the 10lbs with a the 24( in reality 30 odd hour) weigh in.
Couldn't and wouldn't have done it with the same day.
Yeah.Did you feel weak?

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 18:06
by Coco
JamesPhilips wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:56
Coco wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:49
JamesPhilips wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 17:46

I think it’s made boxing safer than same day weigh ins but has created a different problem. Weight bullies.
I did the 10lbs with a the 24( in reality 30 odd hour) weigh in.
Couldn't and wouldn't have done it with the same day.
Yeah.Did you feel weak?
Yeah but it was doable

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 18:58
by Ruthless-RKO
Anyone else see what Prograis did to Sam Jones at the end? That was funny.

Re: Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis | DAZN - 26 October 2024

Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 19:32
by JamesPhilips
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 24 Oct 2024, 18:58 Anyone else see what Prograis did to Sam Jones at the end? That was funny.
When he played the audio of Sam saying Prograis would KO Catterall? That was cheeky but funny. Sam was not happy