Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Terence Crawford - 13 September 2025
Posted: 15 May 2025, 10:54
Me too, too big, also while he has struggled against fast fighters, esp Khan, even BJS a bit, he hunts them down and gets to them
So SELA the Saudi entertainment arm, via there PI Fund are organising this. .Meaning there using there money
We have all known what is going on as it's no secret the Saudis are investing trillions in non-fossil-fuel assets to shape their future. We should just make the most of their investment in boxing while it lasts as they'll soon realise there's not enough in it for them to hang about long haul.
It wasn’t officially said.. but assumed. He broke off from GEA to have fights under Ring banner, so he could hold more events outside of Saudi. GEA only wants to hold most fights in Saudi, unless it’s a huge fight, like AJ-Dubois, Usyk-Dubois etc.
So Turki is just the face for Saudi. With the money being funnels in from the GEA or SELA via PIF.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:21It wasn’t officially said.. but assumed. He broke off from GEA to have fights under Ring banner, so he could hold more events outside of Saudi. GEA only wants to hold most fights in Saudi, unless it’s a huge fight, like AJ-Dubois, Usyk-Dubois etc.
They are not being duplicitous. There's no secret. The Saudis are investing. Find me a credible link that shows anybody saying the source of Turki's funds isn't the PIF.Alba wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:32So Turki is just the face for Saudi. With the money being funnels in from the GEA or SELA via PIF.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:21It wasn’t officially said.. but assumed. He broke off from GEA to have fights under Ring banner, so he could hold more events outside of Saudi. GEA only wants to hold most fights in Saudi, unless it’s a huge fight, like AJ-Dubois, Usyk-Dubois etc.
Wonder why there so duplicitous in there dealings.
And also, the pi sh about Turki being some sort of saviour with him "paying out of his own pocket" (paraphrasing) needs to be put to bed.
The GEA is not financed by PIF (like sela) so there is a different income stream for them.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:41They are not being duplicitous. There's no secret. The Saudis are investing. Find me a credible link that shows anybody saying the source of Turki's funds isn't the PIF.Alba wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:32So Turki is just the face for Saudi. With the money being funnels in from the GEA or SELA via PIF.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:21
It wasn’t officially said.. but assumed. He broke off from GEA to have fights under Ring banner, so he could hold more events outside of Saudi. GEA only wants to hold most fights in Saudi, unless it’s a huge fight, like AJ-Dubois, Usyk-Dubois etc.
Wonder why there so duplicitous in there dealings.
And also, the pi sh about Turki being some sort of saviour with him "paying out of his own pocket" (paraphrasing) needs to be put to bed.
It's a government department, the income stream is either black and wet, or money generated from investments made from profits from that black wet stuff. I think the idea of sport washing is bonkers in rhis case. To me they are just hedging.Alba wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:45The GEA is not financed by PIF (like sela) so there is a different income stream for them.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:41They are not being duplicitous. There's no secret. The Saudis are investing. Find me a credible link that shows anybody saying the source of Turki's funds isn't the PIF.Alba wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:32
So Turki is just the face for Saudi. With the money being funnels in from the GEA or SELA via PIF.
Wonder why there so duplicitous in there dealings.
And also, the pi sh about Turki being some sort of saviour with him "paying out of his own pocket" (paraphrasing) needs to be put to bed.
People don't dislike them for being state capitalists...Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 15:08 The Saudis are literally being capitalistic. Lots of people in the West have decided they don't like what the Saudis are doing. My attitude is don't hate the player, hate the game. Why have more animosity towards the Saudis for being state capitalists than any other nation doing the same?
If its coming via PIF or GEA then Turki is not financing the RINg cards is he.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 15:45 The Ring cards are financed by Turki. Not GEA via PIF.
Ultimately I thought everything comes from the PIF in some way, whether it goes through different avenues, it all starts at the PIF does it not?
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I like this fight. But it ain't even close to as big as Pac-mayweather.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 May 2025, 07:43 CANELO-CRAWFORD WILL OUTGROW MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO, RICHARD SCHAEFER PREDICTS
Richard Schaefer has predicted that Canelo Alvarez’s September showdown with Terence Crawford will be "bigger than MayPac."
The former Golden Boy CEO worked closely alongside Floyd Mayweather during his fighting days and was even appointed CEO of Mayweather Promotions in June.
But he has since surfaced as Canelo’s business manager and flanked the Mexican icon during fight week in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, when he beat William Scull on points at ANB Arena earlier this month.
Immediately after Canelo had beaten the Cuban, following 12 pedestrian rounds, Crawford was brought into the ring as it was officially confirmed by Turki Alalshikh, head of Riyadh Season and chairman of the General Entertainment Authority, that the pair will fight.
The clash will take place on Sept. 13, marking Mexican Independence Weekend, and will be the latest box office smash on Canelo’s resume.
Following his victory over Scull, Canelo, 34, is a two-time undisputed champion at super middleweight while Crawford, who is The Ring's No. 1 at 154lbs, was the first boxer in history to win all four belts in two weight classes (junior welterweight and welterweight).
As such, Schaefer believes a fight between them will hold unusual cultural significance and become the biggest fight since he started working in the sport.
That includes the 2015 mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, which was the richest in history thanks in no small part to the staggering 4.6million pay-per-view buys it amassed. He also believes it will eclipse Mayweather's fight with Canelo in 2013 and the Mexican's famous trilogy with Gennady Golovkin.
Schaefer told The Ring: “I’ve been involved since 2000 so that is 25 years and I don’t remember any fight bigger than Canelo-Crawford. It’s going to be the biggest fight in the sport for as long as I can remember.
“With Mayweather-Pacquiao, people hyped it up. It was a big success financially, but I think this can be equally as big of a success in that regard if not bigger.
“But I think Canelo-Crawford is a fight between two men truly in their prime.
“I do believe that experience is going to be a big factor in the fight and I do think size will to a certain extent. Crawford moved up to fight Israil Madrimov and was challenged by Madrimov. Some people even thought Madrimov won that fight and I’ll tell you one thing; Canelo is no Madrimov.
“Canelo has the best chin in boxing, no question about it. He has never been dropped, never been hurt and it’s going to be challenging for Crawford to really hurt Canelo.
“So I think it’s going to be a fascinating match. It’s going to be the biggest fight in modern history. I was fortunate enough to promote Mayweather-Canelo back in the day.
“This will be substantially bigger.”
They aren’t doing this for monetry gains. Ty ey are doing it for public standing. To show Saudi Arabia off to the world. The arabs are king dick swingers and love to be seen.Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:21We have all known what is going on as it's no secret the Saudis are investing trillions in non-fossil-fuel assets to shape their future. We should just make the most of their investment in boxing while it lasts as they'll soon realise there's not enough in it for them to hang about long haul.