I meant alcohol and cigarettes for most people don’t cause them the same level of addiction as drugs can. If you take heroin and get hooked your life will change for the worse very quickly. That’s what I meant by levels. But yes as I said in an earlier post the government pick and chose what is legal and what isn’t so maybe legalising drugs and taxing it is the way to go.smiling assassin wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 09:30Nothing to do with levels, Alcohol is taxed to high heaven so it’s legal. Take away drink and crime rate falls greatly all these people saying drug dealers are scum need to get a reality checkControversial wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 08:56I guess it’s levels, obviously some drugs are highly addictive and cause a lot of major issues if you get hooked. But yeah long term alcohol use isn’t great either and hospitals more likely full of people with problems linked to drinking than people taking drugs.forcefraser wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 08:24 I've never understood what gives the government the right to determine what you put in your own body.
Surely alcohol is worse than a bit of smoke or sniff?
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Ultimately drug dealing is the tip of the iceberg, we can all justify things when it suits us, it's a bit of fun, it's my money, it's my body, I'm not hurting anyone etc but there's always more to it. Normally organised crime, kids being forced into dealing out of fear for their lives or people getting stabbed or killed by rival dealers without mentioning what goes on before it's even sent to our shores. Some people will happily buy knocked off goods from some bloke in a pub, not considering he probably burgled someone the night before to get that stuff but it's ok because it wasn't their mum or dad he burgled. Some blokes will often happily watch porn or use sex workers and not consider that many of the women are trafficked, abused, have mental health problems or addiction issues. And of course they wouldn't want their own mum or sister doing it but it's ok for someone else's daughter to do it. We all pick and chose what is "ok" and what isn't though, basically we are all hypocrites 
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Sorry mate I came across a bit blunt when I read it back didn’t mean toControversial wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 09:50I meant alcohol and cigarettes for most people don’t cause them the same level of addiction as drugs can. If you take heroin and get hooked your life will change for the worse very quickly. That’s what I meant by levels. But yes as I said in an earlier post the government pick and chose what is legal and what isn’t so maybe legalising drugs and taxing it is the way to go.smiling assassin wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 09:30Nothing to do with levels, Alcohol is taxed to high heaven so it’s legal. Take away drink and crime rate falls greatly all these people saying drug dealers are scum need to get a reality checkControversial wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 08:56
I guess it’s levels, obviously some drugs are highly addictive and cause a lot of major issues if you get hooked. But yeah long term alcohol use isn’t great either and hospitals more likely full of people with problems linked to drinking than people taking drugs.
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No worriers mate, I didn't read it as being blunt, all goodsmiling assassin wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 10:15Sorry mate I came across a bit blunt when I read it back didn’t mean toControversial wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 09:50I meant alcohol and cigarettes for most people don’t cause them the same level of addiction as drugs can. If you take heroin and get hooked your life will change for the worse very quickly. That’s what I meant by levels. But yes as I said in an earlier post the government pick and chose what is legal and what isn’t so maybe legalising drugs and taxing it is the way to go.smiling assassin wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 09:30
Nothing to do with levels, Alcohol is taxed to high heaven so it’s legal. Take away drink and crime rate falls greatly all these people saying drug dealers are scum need to get a reality check
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Great points. All matters are so much more complicated than most appreciate. Cocaine production also has an awful effect on local populations and their environment, and pollutes local nature. I always found it odd that individuals who seem to be very moral about poverty and the environment have no problem buying cocaine.Controversial wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 10:13 Ultimately drug dealing is the tip of the iceberg, we can all justify things when it suits us, it's a bit of fun, it's my money, it's my body, I'm not hurting anyone etc but there's always more to it. Normally organised crime, kids being forced into dealing out of fear for their lives or people getting stabbed or killed by rival dealers without mentioning what goes on before it's even sent to our shores. Some people will happily buy knocked off goods from some bloke in a pub, not considering he probably burgled someone the night before to get that stuff but it's ok because it wasn't their mum or dad he burgled. Some blokes will often happily watch porn or use sex workers and not consider the many of the women are trafficked, abused, have mental health problems or addiction issues. And of course they wouldn't want their own mum or sister doing it but it's ok for someone else's daughter to do it. We all pick and chose what is "ok" and what isn't though, basically we are all hypocrites
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If you legalise drugs, a lot of criminals will be out of work overnight.
They still need to earn, and will find another tickle, perhaps they will retrain and go into internet fraud.....
They still need to earn, and will find another tickle, perhaps they will retrain and go into internet fraud.....
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what happened to the ironically named redback rasta, who thought aj was a horrible person for having dealt some weed?
i guess he took those fury losses hard, poor guy
i guess he took those fury losses hard, poor guy
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There are much stronger rumours about his life of crime nowadays.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 13:16 what happened to the ironically named redback rasta, who thought aj was a horrible person for having dealt some weed?
i guess he took those fury losses hard, poor guy![]()
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really, what's he up to now?mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 16:28There are much stronger rumours about his life of crime nowadays.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 13:16 what happened to the ironically named redback rasta, who thought aj was a horrible person for having dealt some weed?
i guess he took those fury losses hard, poor guy![]()
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Pulling wheelies on a surron.
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Implicated in OCG's is what I got from the cryptic podcast, Beyond Boxing, that I was on about the other day. Apparently there's a police file on it and it's the reason he's hardly ever in the country anymore.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 19:31really, what's he up to now?mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 16:28There are much stronger rumours about his life of crime nowadays.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 13:16 what happened to the ironically named redback rasta, who thought aj was a horrible person for having dealt some weed?
i guess he took those fury losses hard, poor guy![]()
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After hearing that on the podcast, the next story I saw was Hearn talking about AJ's next fight potentially being in Ghana.mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Sep 2025, 00:46Implicated in OCG's is what I got from the cryptic podcast, Beyond Boxing, that I was on about the other day. Apparently there's a police file on it and it's the reason he's hardly ever in the country anymore.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 19:31really, what's he up to now?mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 16:28
There are much stronger rumours about his life of crime nowadays.
But then there have always been rumours of AJ's next fight being in Africa, that never come to anything. So I don't know if that adds any weight to the idea he's avoiding the UK or not.
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mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Sep 2025, 00:46Implicated in OCG's is what I got from the cryptic podcast, Beyond Boxing, that I was on about the other day. Apparently there's a police file on it and it's the reason he's hardly ever in the country anymore.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 19:31really, what's he up to now?mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 16:28
There are much stronger rumours about his life of crime nowadays.
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CaptainSpacerod
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I’m not buying thatmickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 16:28There are much stronger rumours about his life of crime nowadays.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 13:16 what happened to the ironically named redback rasta, who thought aj was a horrible person for having dealt some weed?
i guess he took those fury losses hard, poor guy![]()
He’s a very well liked and respected man in the eyes of the wider sporting public. He’s worth tens maybe hundreds of millions of pounds. He’s not daft - why would he got involved in any nonsense and jeopardise all that ?
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Come on Mickey. Even from your diehard Fury perspective this is a massive push.mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Sep 2025, 00:46Implicated in OCG's is what I got from the cryptic podcast, Beyond Boxing, that I was on about the other day. Apparently there's a police file on it and it's the reason he's hardly ever in the country anymore.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 19:31really, what's he up to now?mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 16:28
There are much stronger rumours about his life of crime nowadays.
The guy is worth all of us lot put together times a million.
He’s not going to be involved in Organised Crime for a few extra quid.
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It's not me saying it. It's a bloke with deep connections in London boxing who knows them all personally.Frostieballs wrote: ↑09 Sep 2025, 17:41Come on Mickey. Even from your diehard Fury perspective this is a massive push.mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Sep 2025, 00:46Implicated in OCG's is what I got from the cryptic podcast, Beyond Boxing, that I was on about the other day. Apparently there's a police file on it and it's the reason he's hardly ever in the country anymore.
The guy is worth all of us lot put together times a million.
He’s not going to be involved in Organised Crime for a few extra quid.
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I’m assuming that’s Bowers or Sims or Tibbs
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All three of them have been heavily involved in crime ironically
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What is? He is clearly talking about AJ and does a 21 minute podcast on it going into as much detail as he can.
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For someone worth less than 100m, this is a fast way to end up brokedookus wrote: ↑10 Sep 2025, 08:35 Who is really funding this?
https://talksport.com/boxing/3176821/an ... nvestment/
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says he wants to purchase a share.Coco wrote: ↑10 Sep 2025, 08:45For someone worth less than 100m, this is a fast way to end up brokedookus wrote: ↑10 Sep 2025, 08:35 Who is really funding this?
https://talksport.com/boxing/3176821/an ... nvestment/
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I mean I assume the “bloke with deep connections in London boxing who knows them all personally” is one of those three.mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Sep 2025, 04:41What is? He is clearly talking about AJ and does a 21 minute podcast on it going into as much detail as he can.
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No, Terry, the podcaster.CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑10 Sep 2025, 13:09I mean I assume the “bloke with deep connections in London boxing who knows them all personally” is one of those three.mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Sep 2025, 04:41What is? He is clearly talking about AJ and does a 21 minute podcast on it going into as much detail as he can.
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He probably knows a few nawty characters, they are always sniffing around top boxers but I doubt he's involved in actual crime, way too successful with way too much to lose, just think of the sponsorship deals he's got. Too smart for that.mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Sep 2025, 00:46Implicated in OCG's is what I got from the cryptic podcast, Beyond Boxing, that I was on about the other day. Apparently there's a police file on it and it's the reason he's hardly ever in the country anymore.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 19:31really, what's he up to now?mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 16:28
There are much stronger rumours about his life of crime nowadays.