Least Favorite Boxers and why????

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 04 Jul 2005, 04:57

Maybe this thread should be locked?

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 04 Jul 2005, 05:48

Grimm wrote:
silkov wrote:
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:I am not gonna get into it with ringsider aka badblood and silkov. Silkov has always had a grudge against me for no apparent reason. By the way silkov, u need some agressiveness in you when you argue boxing. And I dont belittle other peoples knowledge. I respect a lot of users on this forum, even some ones i dont agree with. I think they have a lot of knowledge. Just because I dont respect Sweet Scientist or u doesnt mean you have to start crying like a little girl. i was being outfront with u.
And Once again i dont care what other people think as long as i get my info and questions answered. but, on a side note, I have noticed users saying im a very nice kid and i only become disrespectful when someone attacks me personally first. and if u want to call me something call me by my name which is NICK.
Johnson fought a very inexperienced sam mcvey who was like 7-0 when he fought johnson. The best hevayweight johnson beat was joe jeaneate and he wasnt considered a great heavyweight. He gave johnson a lot of trouble. and do u want to explain to me how a 160 lb philadelphia jack gave johnson so much trouble????
This post of yours Brockton shows just what I've been getting at... it's laughable and really quite childish to think that you need to be aggressive when arguing boxing or anything for that matter!. Aggression is a very negative thing and one of the reasons I admire boxers so much is that the majority of them outside the ring are the most respectful and peaceful guys you could ever meet!.
As for me being also Badblood and Ringsider which you seem to be alluding to that is all crap as well... I don't need to hide behind different names. Perhaps you can't belive that there is more than one person who disagrees with you.
I have nothing against you and if you take the trouble to look through the threads you'll see I've actually stuck up for you a few times. But I often disagree with what you say and have become tired of your aggressive and condecending attitude to me and others when we don't agree with your ideas.
If you are going to post on a forum you should bve willing to accept other peoples points of view without constantly resorting to insults or boasts about your 'superior' knowledge of the sport.
And as for respect I certainly don't have any for you anymore and won't be bothering to go onto any of your threads in future till perhaps you grow up some... and I won't hold my breath on that!....
Man, would you please stop PM'ing me about the length of boxers' dicks.

You faggot bitch.

Why this obsession with homosexuality Grimm?.... haven't you made up your mind yet which team you wanna bat for?. I certainly have never Pm'ed you... I have little time for you on the threads so why would I PM you... you really need to come up with something better boy. Perhaps you should see a shrink.
Seriously though I think someone who insults a fellow forum user like you have should be chucked out, neither you or your little freind Brockton seem to have the respect or maturity to deal with adult debate in a reasonable and respectful manner and as such I don't think either of you belong on this forum.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 04 Jul 2005, 10:11

YEah well well im young, im energetic and agressive. not too agressive. perhaps when i get older ill debate more peaceful and suttle. but that comes with experience and age.

Grimm and I have not done anything harmful to get kicked off the forum. As for myself, I DO NOT TALK MYSelF UP. I sometimes feel another users opinion is so wild ill tell them i think they are completely wrong. i never try to put myself way over someone else. silkov u brought this on, it was between me and sweet scientist but u wanted to get into it with an 18 year old kid. i guess u have nothing better to do than argue with a kid. if ur so adult like and mature why get into it with me???

lock the thread

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 04 Jul 2005, 11:24

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:YEah well well im young, im energetic and agressive. not too agressive. perhaps when i get older ill debate more peaceful and suttle. but that comes with experience and age.

Grimm and I have not done anything harmful to get kicked off the forum. As for myself, I DO NOT TALK MYSelF UP. I sometimes feel another users opinion is so wild ill tell them i think they are completely wrong. i never try to put myself way over someone else. silkov u brought this on, it was between me and sweet scientist but u wanted to get into it with an 18 year old kid. i guess u have nothing better to do than argue with a kid. if ur so adult like and mature why get into it with me???

lock the thread

You're very sad mate... calling yourself a kid when you're 18! have you no shame... perhaps you're still wearing nappies by the sound of it?.
Actually I have far better things to do than bicker with you but at the same time I am loath to sit back and watch people like you insult fellow posters in the name of 'debate'. As for not 'talking yourself up' that is all you do on this forum and its really getting tedious.
If you really are so young and energetic and not just plain stupid I advise you to work off some of your aggression... do some jogging or even better try some boxing for yourself if you think you can take it, or else find a girlfriend... all this latent aggression seems like sexual frustration to me!...

8)

Sweet Scientist · Post by **Sweet Scientist** » 04 Jul 2005, 11:54

KOJOE90 wrote:Maybe this thread should be locked?

...I know I'm done with it....if you go back to the original post, with the ugly remarks about Jack Johnson...(a real low blow)...you could see the potential for volatility...we had put up with BS like that years ago...this is supposed to be an 'enlightened' age...

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 04 Jul 2005, 12:14

Roy Jones: I don't deny his talent but he abuses poultry and he's just the most arrogant prick ever.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 04 Jul 2005, 12:44

Sweet Scientist wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:Maybe this thread should be locked?
...I know I'm done with it....if you go back to the original post, with the ugly remarks about Jack Johnson...(a real low blow)...you could see the potential for volatility...we had put up with BS like that years ago...this is supposed to be an 'enlightened' age...

Thats one of the reasons I got involved, ...don't see why such ignorance should go unanswered!. I don't expect to change certain peoples minds but want to show that the world and certainly this forum isnt just populated with bigots and racists who think that they have the answers to life itself while barely out of nappies.
Don't lock the thread lets see what other gems they can come up with... its all water off a ducks back for me.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 04 Jul 2005, 12:46

mrbassie wrote:Roy Jones: I don't deny his talent but he abuses poultry and he's just the most arrogant prick ever.

He's also been exposed as a steriods abuser, something nearly everyone seems to have forgotten for some reason or other!...

Dapaper · Post by **Dapaper** » 04 Jul 2005, 12:53

EDIT: nm, read about it now, I don't know how I missed that.

I just sort of assume that many of the top boxers today, and most of the top heavyweights are doping...

-Dapa

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 04 Jul 2005, 13:02

It's all about image in the TV age man, it's such bullshit. People mock the builds of 'old timers' and chirp on about how ripped their latest p4p sUprAstAr!!1! is.

And yet Vivian Harris, ripped like an Adonis, is gassed after two minutes of the first round, versus a 'drunken style' have-a-go hero in a supposed 'world' title fight.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 04 Jul 2005, 15:16

Manos de Oro wrote:It's all about image in the TV age man, it's such bullshit. People mock the builds of 'old timers' and chirp on about how ripped their latest p4p sUprAstAr!!1! is.

And yet Vivian Harris, ripped like an Adonis, is gassed after two minutes of the first round, versus a 'drunken style' have-a-go hero in a supposed 'world' title fight.

Build doesn't really mean that much... its how you go about getting that ripped look. Boxers today maybe more heavily muscled than fighters of 30 years ago plus but generally their stamina and overall conditioning is much poorer... and its not that they fight at a higher pace or anything either!.

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 04 Jul 2005, 18:51

That's what they get for using weights man.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 12 Jan 2006, 19:07

Back to the original topic.

Current Fighters. James Toney. Zab Judah. Diego Corrales. Paul Spadafora.

All Time. Roberto Duran. Mike Tyson. Tony Ayala. The Whole Hilton Clan.

DoubleM · Post by **DoubleM** » 12 Jan 2006, 19:18

Wow. How much BB's opinion has changed on middleweights :)

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 12 Jan 2006, 19:45

To add my two cents in, I have to come to BB's defense. Even though he has said things on this post which are totally off kelter, he has always been a lively poster with boxing knowledge and obviously a fan of the sport. He has always come off aggressive, but most of the time cools down over time. Recently he has been more aggressive (don't know why), but I have noticed he has been purposely riled up before (not by anyone on this post, though) and followed from post to post to anger him some more. So, BB, I have to say cool down a bit and go back to the good old days (of a few months ago

).

To answer the orginal question, I personally do not dislike any fighter, but I may dislike the person. Anybody that steps in the ring has may respect. They can't lose my respect in the ring, only by their actions or comments outside it.

And finally, BB, I can't pass this up, I have to joke with you a little. This is quoted from the last post of the 2nd page:

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:I will have forgotton more about boxing than u had ever known.

Interesting choice of words. I have heard them somewhere before........I believe lifted from Jack Johnson's autobiography, where he was talking about Tommy Burns. BB's homage to Jack Johnson

ferroz · Post by **ferroz** » 13 Jan 2006, 00:09

dan1030 wrote:OK, back to the original question in this thread--have I just missed it, or has no one mentioned...(drum roll, please)...

JOHN RUIZ?!

C'mon, people, how can anyone hate any heavyweight--champion or otherwise--more than this guy?

Why, oh why, won't this guy just go compete for WWF belts, where his "skills" would be better appreciated?

Completely agree. And also Mike Tyson.

sockdolager · Post by **sockdolager** » 13 Jan 2006, 09:59

I hate Sergio Mora.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 13 Jan 2006, 12:09

DoubleM wrote:Wow. How much BB's opinion has changed on middleweights :)

ha! that yeah that was like what 6 months ago? i have changed a lot of my opinions since then

i didnt know who holman williams, lyoyd marshall, eddie booker etc was when this topic was made

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 13 Jan 2006, 12:11

Sherlock wrote:To add my two cents in, I have to come to BB's defense. Even though he has said things on this post which are totally off kelter, he has always been a lively poster with boxing knowledge and obviously a fan of the sport. He has always come off aggressive, but most of the time cools down over time. Recently he has been more aggressive (don't know why), but I have noticed he has been purposely riled up before (not by anyone on this post, though) and followed from post to post to anger him some more. So, BB, I have to say cool down a bit and go back to the good old days (of a few months ago ).

To answer the orginal question, I personally do not dislike any fighter, but I may dislike the person. Anybody that steps in the ring has may respect. They can't lose my respect in the ring, only by their actions or comments outside it.

And finally, BB, I can't pass this up, I have to joke with you a little. This is quoted from the last post of the 2nd page:

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:I will have forgotton more about boxing than u had ever known.
Interesting choice of words. I have heard them somewhere before........I believe lifted from Jack Johnson's autobiography, where he was talking about Tommy Burns. BB's homage to Jack Johnson

damm why is everyone bringing up stuff that happened like 6 months ago, i said some stupid stuff then that i regret and look back upon and laugh

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 13 Jan 2006, 12:35

silkov wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote:It's all about image in the TV age man, it's such bullshit. People mock the builds of 'old timers' and chirp on about how ripped their latest p4p sUprAstAr!!1! is.

And yet Vivian Harris, ripped like an Adonis, is gassed after two minutes of the first round, versus a 'drunken style' have-a-go hero in a supposed 'world' title fight.

Build doesn't really mean that much... its how you go about getting that ripped look. Boxers today maybe more heavily muscled than fighters of 30 years ago plus but generally their stamina and overall conditioning is much poorer... and its not that they fight at a higher pace or anything either!.

Beefing up is not the same as being natural at a weight. Muscle will improve yoru strength but it will never make you the same as someone natural at the weight (all things being equal). It's often the skeletal fighters who are tight at the weight who are the biggest punchers and who have the most strength.

Nels · Post by **Nels** » 14 Jan 2006, 06:27

Sorry to chip in so late, but to "hate" a guy for contravening the stupid, venal, racist, hatemongering bullshit that informed the climate of his times, to stand up for what he believed in and for his own right to be who he wanted...

That is far and away and without a shadow of a doubt the most stupid fornicating thing I've ever read on these boards, and I've read some stupid shit...

Otyson · Post by **Otyson** » 15 Jan 2006, 22:22

I Hate Lennox Lewis and i dont think he was a good boxer and buster douglas

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 15 Jan 2006, 23:55

For me Treavor Berbick comes to mind, woefully boering style, whenever he lost he looked unbelievably bad. Totally gutless preformences against Gorden, Snipes, And Mercado. His main weapon was to clinch and hold, greatest asset was the ability to cause other fighters to fight down to his leavel. His skills or lack there of were totally exposed against Tyson.

Renaldo Snipes another one simply because he was not very interesting to watch.

Michael Dokes because when questioned about a unification bout with Larry Holmes, said that he was not interested.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 16 Jan 2006, 00:34

Never was a big fan of Hector Camacho sr. A little too much preening.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 16 Jan 2006, 07:16

When I dislike a fighter it's due less to them and more to the media/fan reaction to them.

A lot of fighters talk rubbish to out psyche a guy, sell tickets or build up a reputation. It's also true that boxing is full of less than savoury characters. I don't hold any of this against anyone, essentially I'm there to watch the fighting.

I dislike fighters I consider to be vastly overrated or who get, what I consider to be, undue praise in the media.