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nickd wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

J wrote:now you really are being a prick.

Do you always insult people when you don't have the intellect to argue with them?

What do you expect bringing Hitler into it?

It shows the majority can be wrong, is Hitlers name unmentionable?

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Boxings largely about stamina - hence I pick Hatton to beat Witter as Witter has poor stamina (low bodyfat poor stamina). .

You said or implied it right there.

nickd wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Boxings largely about stamina - hence I pick Hatton to beat Witter as Witter has poor stamina (low bodyfat poor stamina). .

You said or implied it right there.

I meant low bodyfat but still poor stamina.

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

nickd wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Boxings largely about stamina - hence I pick Hatton to beat Witter as Witter has poor stamina (low bodyfat poor stamina). .

You said or implied it right there.

I meant low bodyfat but still poor stamina.

OK, not how it read back!

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

J wrote:now you really are being a prick.

Do you always insult people when you don't have the intellect to argue with them?

no but i do when i cant be bothered to argue with folk that are being deliberately obstreperous.

and dont flag my intellect mate unless you have 10 o levels 4 a levels and fornicating degree.

or we can get really intellectual and have a chat about the socio-economics of oil supply into south east asia if you would like and its impact into the evolution of the area?

no thought you might not.



so smart arse, do you always bring such offensive parallells when you are backed into a corner.

do come again smart arse.

J wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

J wrote:now you really are being a prick.

Do you always insult people when you don't have the intellect to argue with them?

no but i do when i cant be bothered to argue with folk that are being deliberately obstreperous.

and dont flag my intellect mate unless you have 10 o levels 4 a levels and fornicating degree.

or we can get really intellectual and have a chat about the socio-economics of oil supply into south east asia if you would like and its impact into the evoluition of the area?

no thought you might not.



so smart arse, do you always bring such offensive parallells when you are backed into a corner.

do come again smart arse.

Oh I've only got 9 1/2 GCSEs, 4 A-Levels and a degree not that you need intellect to achieve that imo as I studied with plenty of people that have rationalisation problems like you.

An argument is lost when you need to insult, its like Tyson biting Holyfield's ear off. Its just not the Ashes is it mate

And I have no need to know about Oil in South East Asia as I'm not going to Pakistan (I already live in Bradford)

i find the reference to hitler insulting so there you go.


have no rationlisation problems mate, you were being cock so i called you one.

aNd hang on it was YOU that said that i didnt have the intellect mate.
I have no idea about yours but im guessing it aint that good, see below example.

Intellect can be shown by exams but in other ways as well.
Such as geography and knowing where in the world places are, pakistan is not in south east asia.

keep it coming you are doing real well here.

J wrote:i find the reference to hitler insulting so there you go.

hang on you said that i didnt have the intellect mate. Intellect can be shown by exams but in others as well.
Such as geography and knowing where in the world places are, pakistan is not south east asia.

keep it coming you are doing real well here.

Asians call pakistan south east asia so just because someone else has different boundaries and defines it differently doesn't make it so.

I wasn't saying you'd support a facist system, but who knows mental rationalisation processes are needed to see past the not so obvious propaganda, I'm not sure you have the capacity

IVE HEARD IT ALL NOW MATE....pakistan is in south east asia is it, what near singapore, hong kong, indonesia, malaysia?

thats south east asia mate cos its in the south east, hows that for a clue!

you reference to hitler was not taken as such but it is certianaly crass at best and i find it offensive to liken my following of hatton to those of the third reich.

so you got called a prick and now you continue to act like one and embarrass yourself.

keep it coming im covering the late markets, can chat like this all night if you want?

personally if i were you i'd quietly retreat.

J wrote:IVE HEARD IT ALL NOW MATE....pakistan is in south east asia is it, what near singapore, hong kong, indonesia, malaysia?

thats south east asia mate cos its in the south east, hows that for a clue!

you reference to hitler was not taken as such but it is certianaly crass at best and i find it offensive to liken my following of hatton to those of the third reich.

so you got called a prick and now you continue to act like one and embarrass yourself.

keep it coming im covering the late markets, can chat like this all night if you want?

personally if i were you i'd quietly retreat.

Lets face it all the valid points that were made you'd ignored because you didn't have the brain to respond, 10 o levels or not.

Muslims refer to Pakistan as South East Asia because its the eastern side of Muslim world. You need to get a clue and think there are other definitions other than your geography classes.

I wasn't likening your following of Hatton to the following of the Third Reich. YOU SAID MOST PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH ME. MOST PEOPLE MAY HAVE AGREED WITH HITLER. Hence what most people think is largely irrelevant, and if you can't see that maybe someone needs to make an O-Level so you can pass an exam on it.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/fa ... heast_Asia

nuff said.

whatever mate you are blatently a prize prick even when presented with facts you tried to work your way out of it.

im bored of talking to you now, suggest you use you "intellect" to learn where south east asia is, your argument is pathetic.

you bought hitler in as a comparison of my following of hatton.

thats pretty low in my opinion.

as for my intellect it is very apparent mate, that im smarter than you are , secondly what i do for a living would support a pretty high level of rational and educated intellect so one suggests that you should learn a simple thing like where countries are, before being detrimental in the outset over folk that you know nothing about.

cos you might get your fingers burned.

goodbye you ignorant pratt. enjoy looking at that atlas.

J wrote:http://education.yahoo.com/reference/fa ... heast_Asia

nuff said.

whatever mate you are blatently a prize prick even when presented with facts you tried to work your way out of it.

im bored of talking to you now, suggest you use you "intellect" to learn where south east asia is, your argument is pathetic.

you bought hitler in as a comparison of my following of hatton.

thats pretty low in my opinion.

as for my intellect it is very apparent mate, that im smarter than you are , secondly what i do for a living would support a pretty high level of rational and educated intellect so one suggests that you should learn a simple thing like where countries are, before being detrimental in the outset over folk that you know nothing about.

cos you might get your fingers burned.

goodbye you ignorant pratt. enjoy looking at that atlas.

You just gave me the Western Definition, go look up the Islamic definition. Paks refer to Pakistan as South East Asia.

I don't profess to know about Geography, I was talking about boxing, which you don't debate on because you can see your beat.

You can call me prick on here but I doubt you'd say it to my face, because your white collar office worker whos a hardman in your dreams. And your only way of been a realman in your mind is to get some kind of self achievement through Ricky Hattons achievement. Hence when its quite correctly pointed out hes a well managed duck specialist it upsets you.

As for your job, I run my own business and I gurantee in a week I'll at least earn what you do in a month. And studying stock markets or whatever you do is barely advanced.

search wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

silkov wrote:
But Witter vs Hatton would be huge here and I think the US have more respect for Witter than Maussa and they love a grudge fight.
But you're right in that the fight won't happen and the reason is that Hatton knows Witter would probably beat him.

Yeah right, Hatton must be terrified of Witter after watching him almost lose to non-entity Kotelnik. Christ you talk some bollocks.

You are the one whos talking bollocks. You think Hatton has the exact smae style as Kotelnik? You think Witter was at his best in that fight? You think Witter doesn't have the style to beat Hatton?

keep talking bollocks.

When, exactly, was Witter at his best?

When he ran like a thief against Judah?

or when he beat 15 stiffs in a row?

Or when he won a close decision and flagged badly against fringe contender NDou?

The Witter that fought in any of those fights would have been steamrollered by Hatton.

Different class, I'm afraid.

search wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: So Tyuzus the best in the world for 3rounds doesnt mean he isnt shot, Tysons still the best HW in the world for 2rounds.

What fornicating bollocks.

How is Tyson the best 2 round fighter in the world when he couldn't even stop McBride or Danny Williams? He hasn't beaten a top 10 contender since 1997 you plonker.

Tszyu destroyed, yes DESTROYED Sharmba Mitchell, who was regarded as a genuine #1 contender in the division. You cannot compare that to getting stopped by Williams and McBride in back to back fights.

Show me ANY evidence that Tszyu was shot. He was murdering Hatton in the middle rounds until the constant pressure got to him and he tired.

Funny how before the fight Tszyu was a P4P top 5 and now because he lost to Hatton he's shot.

Tszyu had the fight beaten out of him by a younger, hungrier

Ridiculous biased garbage.

Mitchell was BEATEN BY NDOU BY MOST ACCOUNTS. (Witter beat Ndou easier than anybody btw).

A 36 year old man has 3 rounds in 2 years and comes off a career threatning injury and he's still the same fighter he was?

You have always been a biased Hatton nuthugger.

No way did N'dou beat Mitchell, watch the fight before commenting.

Mitchell did struggle with him but he won the fight.

search wrote:

KO Atrist wrote:

search wrote: You are the one whos talking bollocks. You think Hatton has the exact smae style as Kotelnik? You think Witter was at his best in that fight? You think Witter doesn't have the style to beat Hatton?

keep talking bollocks.

When, exactly, was Witter at his best?

When he ran like a thief against Judah?

or when he beat 15 stiffs in a row?

Or when he won a close decision and flagged badly against fringe contender NDou?

The Witter that fought in any of those fights would have been steamrollered by Hatton.

Different class, I'm afraid.

What was Hatton doing when Witter fought "15 stiffs?" He was fighting 30+ stiffs running from Witter while Witter was calling him out.

The Witter who fought Ndou would pulverise Hatton withing 5 rounds, quite possibly in 1 round.

Even the Witter who beat Judah would have knocked Hatton out. Witter has his number. Always has. Why has Hatton been running like a thief from Witter then?

Because Hatton has bigger fish to fry.

I also feel that Hatton may dislike Witter particularly because of the fact that Wiiter disresoected him. Hatton probably doesnt want to pay Witter the wages.

If They they fight, Hatton would massacre him.

I reckon Hatton would stop him in a few rounds.

But they will never fight.

Hatton will fight Maussa, Gatti then Mayweather, then retire.

nickd wrote:

search wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote: What fornicating bollocks.

How is Tyson the best 2 round fighter in the world when he couldn't even stop McBride or Danny Williams? He hasn't beaten a top 10 contender since 1997 you plonker.

Tszyu destroyed, yes DESTROYED Sharmba Mitchell, who was regarded as a genuine #1 contender in the division. You cannot compare that to getting stopped by Williams and McBride in back to back fights.

Show me ANY evidence that Tszyu was shot. He was murdering Hatton in the middle rounds until the constant pressure got to him and he tired.

Funny how before the fight Tszyu was a P4P top 5 and now because he lost to Hatton he's shot.

Tszyu had the fight beaten out of him by a younger, hungrier

Ridiculous biased garbage.

Mitchell was BEATEN BY NDOU BY MOST ACCOUNTS. (Witter beat Ndou easier than anybody btw).

A 36 year old man has 3 rounds in 2 years and comes off a career threatning injury and he's still the same fighter he was?

You have always been a biased Hatton nuthugger.

No way did N'dou beat Mitchell, watch the fight before commenting.

Mitchell did struggle with him but he won the fight.

I scored it by a narrow margin for Ndou but only saw it once

KO Atrist wrote:

search wrote:

KO Atrist wrote: When, exactly, was Witter at his best?

When he ran like a thief against Judah?

or when he beat 15 stiffs in a row?

Or when he won a close decision and flagged badly against fringe contender NDou?

The Witter that fought in any of those fights would have been steamrollered by Hatton.

Different class, I'm afraid.

What was Hatton doing when Witter fought "15 stiffs?" He was fighting 30+ stiffs running from Witter while Witter was calling him out.

The Witter who fought Ndou would pulverise Hatton withing 5 rounds, quite possibly in 1 round.

Even the Witter who beat Judah would have knocked Hatton out. Witter has his number. Always has. Why has Hatton been running like a thief from Witter then?

Because Hatton has bigger fish to fry.

I also feel that Hatton may dislike Witter particularly because of the fact that Wiiter disresoected him. Hatton probably doesnt want to pay Witter the wages.

If They they fight, Hatton would massacre him.

I reckon Hatton would stop him in a few rounds.

But they will never fight.

Hatton will fight Maussa, Gatti then Mayweather, then retire.

Hatton had/has bigger fish to fry against Vilches, Pederson, Stewart, now Maussa (Cotto leftovers Maussa).

Those are smaller easier to catch fishes

search wrote:

nickd wrote:

search wrote: Ridiculous biased garbage.

Mitchell was BEATEN BY NDOU BY MOST ACCOUNTS. (Witter beat Ndou easier than anybody btw).

A 36 year old man has 3 rounds in 2 years and comes off a career threatning injury and he's still the same fighter he was?

You have always been a biased Hatton nuthugger.

No way did N'dou beat Mitchell, watch the fight before commenting.

Mitchell did struggle with him but he won the fight.

I have seen the fight.

I'm not the only one who thinks Ndou won.

http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/Fischer020904.asp

Fair enough Lirva.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

silkov wrote:

J wrote:think we will just have to agree to disagree on this one but one thing is for sure this fight wont hppen anytime soon so its pretty futile to keep hanging on for it .

not sure if you would get more for fighting witter than Mausa, it is after all a unifciation and witter certinaly wont sell ppv in the US at all.

just my thoughts buddy.

But Witter vs Hatton would be huge here and I think the US have more respect for Witter than Maussa and they love a grudge fight.
But you're right in that the fight won't happen and the reason is that Hatton knows Witter would probably beat him.

Yeah right, Hatton must be terrified of Witter after watching him almost lose to non-entity Kotelnik. Christ you talk some bollocks.

So Maussa is a harder fight than Witter would be is he?.... you're the one talking bollocks mate.

Its funny how certain posters here are so sensitive about anything said against Hatton. Maybe he employs some of you to hold his spit bucket!.
The truth is he is facing another pushover and claiming that this man represents a real challenge.
And I ask again would Hatton be interested in picking up Maussas 'title' if it was held by Witter???. I think not!.
If Witter was so poor in his recent fight why doesn't Hatton fight him when the fight would gurentee a big crowd and a big purse and give Hatton a chance for 'revenge'!!!??.
I wait to be enlightened....... 8)

I agree with the point that after hatton's fight with zoo he could do with an easier fight with maussa for the unification. That's all good and perfectly understandable. However, what is not right is that hatton is hyping up maussa to be a great fighter as i stated previously.

"Great" fighters that hatton should be calling "great" should be PBF/Cotto?Judah and fight them when the time is right and not finding weaker opponnents and hyper them up.

nas7232 wrote:I agree with the point that after hatton's fight with zoo he could do with an easier fight with maussa for the unification. That's all good and perfectly understandable. However, what is not right is that hatton is hyping up maussa to be a great fighter as i stated previously.

"Great" fighters that hatton should be calling "great" should be PBF/Cotto?Judah and fight them when the time is right and not finding weaker opponnents and hyper them up.

Yeh, I actually thought after beating zoo Ricky wanted to step up and face more world class opposition but again he's going down the same old road.
And whatever the Hatton fans here may say Kostya had only 3 rounds in 2+ years when he fought Hatton and this had to hurt him. Anyone who thinks such inactivity doesn't hurt a boxer doesn't know much about the game. I wonder if Hatton would have fought Tysu if he had not been so inactive?...

Search is back!!! Yes!!! I was wondering when this would happen. I figured a few months after Witter's piss-poor performance against Kotelnik until this wanker showed his face again.

Look, fact of the matter is: Maussa is a crap fight. The only thing that makes this fight is the WBA belt, and we all know that. But Hatton is being paid over 2 million to fight the guy, in England. It's business, and we all know that. And, despite how much we all knock the belts, they bring value with them. Hatton as IBF/WBA champion against the WBC champion Mayweather next summer is a bigger fight than a two belt Hatton/Mayweather fight, especially if the American networks build it up.

Witter, as he has always been, is on the outside. I symapthise with him, to an extent, but he needs something to make the fight worthwhile these days: Hatton has so many options. It could be it a belt or it could be money(Of course, the two are entwined in many ways, but Witter is not of the Gatti mould where people care about the fighter on his own), but Junior needs a proper reason for the fight to take place (at least in Ricky's eyes). As he brings no money independent of a title, he needs to pick up a belt. Anyway, as things stand with their most recent fights, Hatton would steamroller Witter, in my eyes, although it would certainly carry danger. But he can get paid just as much for beating anyone else. Why would he fight the guy who's made a career out of having a go at him? Pride, essentially. And I'd like to think that is enough of a reason. But I can understand how Hatton is in no mood to give Witter any kind of paycheck.

states wrote:Search is back!!! Yes!!! I was wondering when this would happen. I figured a few months after Witter's piss-poor performance against Kotelnik until this wanker showed his face again.

Look, fact of the matter is: Maussa is a crap fight. The only thing that makes this fight is the WBA belt, and we all know that. But Hatton is being paid over 2 million to fight the guy, in England. It's business, and we all know that. And, despite how much we all knock the belts, they bring value with them. Hatton as IBF/WBA champion against the WBC champion Mayweather next summer is a bigger fight than a two belt Hatton/Mayweather fight, especially if the American networks build it up.

Witter, as he has always been, is on the outside. I symapthise with him, to an extent, but he needs something to make the fight worthwhile these days: Hatton has so many options. It could be it a belt or it could be money(Of course, the two are entwined in many ways, but Witter is not of the Gatti mould where people care about the fighter on his own), but Junior needs a proper reason for the fight to take place (at least in Ricky's eyes). As he brings no money independent of a title, he needs to pick up a belt. Anyway, as things stand with their most recent fights, Hatton would steamroller Witter, in my eyes, although it would certainly carry danger. But he can get paid just as much for beating anyone else. Why would he fight the guy who's made a career out of having a go at him? Pride, essentially. And I'd like to think that is enough of a reason. But I can understand how Hatton is in no mood to give Witter any kind of paycheck.

If Hatton was a proper man he would take it out on Witter in the ring. Theres nothing admirable in him 'freezing' Witter out. And the underlying point is that Hatton would take Witter on in the ring if he thought he could win. Which he obviously doesn't.
Would Hatton vs Witter be bigger and earn Hatton more money than Hatton vs Maussa?.... yes!.
Would Hatton still be so interested in the WBA title if it was held by Witter and not Maussa?.... no!.
There you have it!.
Perhaps Ricky should have stuck to footie.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I did say that pride should be enough of a reason for Hatton to fight Witter, did I not? I certainly didn't say it was 'admirable' for him to avoid the fight.

My point is that how is Hatton - Witter worth more to Ricky than Hatton Maussa? It isn't right now, surely you have to admit that? Witter doesn't bring any cash to the fight. I said that a Witter fight carried danger, and I also said the only reason Hatton is fighting Maussa is because of the belt. So why are you on my nuts?

I'm being as reasonable as I can: I want Hatton to fight Witter, FFS, and I'm a big fan of Hatton. All I'm saying is that I can understand why it isn't happening. I didn't say it was right.