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barry wrote:Greb was 160 for his title fights and other than fighting many, many bouts at middleweight he could get down to that weight with little difficulty. The only reason he was higher in many bouts was just to have the little bit of extra weight when he was facing the larger fighters. He was a middleweight through and through!

Thank you. My point exactly.

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Did someone in this thread actually claim Rodrigo Valdez beats Fullmer, Hagler, Ketchel etc???

Eduardo Lausse (who k.d. and beat Gene Fullmer) and Rafael Merentino may be between the top 50 best middleweights

Tommy Ryan should be higher. Carlos Monzon is right at #1.

I commend anyone that post an all-time list like this because you open yourself up for a lot of shit talking from member so the board so I'm not gonna give you much of a hard time.

I don't understand how RJJ doesn't make your list. I know he only stopped at this weight long enough to win a title then move up, but had he stayed at this weight, Bernard Hopkins would never have held a title, much less defended it so many times. Same can be said of Joe Calzaghe at Super Middleweight. I'd rate RJJ near the top from middleweight thru lightheavyweight in any all time ranking. He was better than James Toney, Mike Mccallum, or Bernard Hopkins at this weight even if he didn't stay there as long as those guys.