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Posted: 03 May 2006, 08:21
by Mutley's girl
kerrminator wrote:Anderson will certainly come to fight(as will Muttley, im sure)and I dont think Muttley will be able to stop the onslaught.
Anderson has great KO power but has not been able to show it off as much recently due to fighting some good defensive boxers, Muttley however will probably come forward and them Anderson will once again be able to show his power as Muttley is custom built for Kev.
Kev has too much for Muttley and if im honest Muttley has got as far as he is gonna get(and with all due respect, he got there buy a dodgy decision against Jennings imo)
Have you seen any of Mutley's fights (excepted for the last one against Jennings)?
Posted: 03 May 2006, 10:35
by kerrminator
If im honest I have only seen a couple of his fights but I did see the Jennings bout(which I thought he lost) and with what I hear from the pundits throughout the boxing world, Kev is gonna be the favourite,I have however seen most of Kevins bouts and there is no way I can see Muttley winning.
Kev will put him away, mark my words.
Terry, im sure there is a kiddies forum if you want to go play with some other boys and girls your own age, try and keep the name calling for your wee chums in the playground son eh!
Posted: 03 May 2006, 10:43
by TerribleTerry
kerrminator wrote:If im honest I have only seen a couple of his fights but I did see the Jennings bout(which I thought he lost) and with what I hear from the pundits throughout the boxing world, Kev is gonna be the favourite,I have however seen most of Kevins bouts and there is no way I can see Muttley winning.
Kev will put him away, mark my words.
Terry, im sure there is a kiddies forum if you want to go play with some other boys and girls your own age, try and keep the name calling for your wee chums in the playground son eh!
I aint your son my sweaty friend.
I just get pi55ed off with people who have hardly seen Muttley box deriding his chances/ability.
Just cause he wasnt spoon fed to you on Sky Sports or any other TV channel doesnt mean he cant fight.
Errol Johnson and his team have worked hard to get Lee into the position he is in now - you obviously know little about him but put in quite confident terms how he will be aggresive and play into Andersons hands - you dont know that - you just
hope that.
Talk on subjects you have knowledge of, dont speculate on those that you dont alright son?

Posted: 03 May 2006, 10:48
by Mutley's girl
kerrminator wrote:If im honest I have only seen a couple of his fights but I did see the Jennings bout(which I thought he lost) and with what I hear from the pundits throughout the boxing world, Kev is gonna be the favourite,I have however seen most of Kevins bouts and there is no way I can see Muttley winning.
Kev will put him away, mark my words.
Terry, im sure there is a kiddies forum if you want to go play with some other boys and girls your own age, try and keep the name calling for your wee chums in the playground son eh!
Jennings was also the favourite to win. I have seen Kevin's last 2 fights against Okine and Dickson and I have seen all of Mutley's proffessional fights.
Mutley will win.

Posted: 03 May 2006, 11:07
by steve689
I would say judging by your name you maye be a little biased
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By the way clear it up for us...is it Muttley or Mutley?

Posted: 03 May 2006, 11:18
by Mutley's girl
steve689 wrote:I would say judging by your name you maye be a little biased
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By the way clear it up for us...is it Muttley or Mutley?

I'm not biased just supporting the winning side, ha, ha.
Only one "T"- Mutley.
Posted: 03 May 2006, 11:24
by steve689
No problem...was only joking on the biased thing, i will also be supporting Mutley with one T. The Midlands needs more title holders

Posted: 03 May 2006, 15:24
by Top Dog
Anderson will K.O. Muttley. Muttley hasn't been in with anyone who can bang like the wee man, Kev will be too fast for him. Muttley looks a bit on the slow side to me, strong enough, but not very quick I.M.O. A lot of you guys are saying Muttley will K.O Anderson, well he didn't K.O. Jennings and Anderson can take a far better shot than him. Muttleys only chance is a super well timed shot, or a damned lucky one at that. I'm not saying Muttley is a dud, far from it, but he aint going to beat Anderson. GO ON KEV, K.O. HIM

Posted: 03 May 2006, 19:07
by kerrminator
TerribleTerry wrote:kerrminator wrote:If im honest I have only seen a couple of his fights but I did see the Jennings bout(which I thought he lost) and with what I hear from the pundits throughout the boxing world, Kev is gonna be the favourite,I have however seen most of Kevins bouts and there is no way I can see Muttley winning.
Kev will put him away, mark my words.
Terry, im sure there is a kiddies forum if you want to go play with some other boys and girls your own age, try and keep the name calling for your wee chums in the playground son eh!
I aint your son my sweaty friend.
I just get pi55ed off with people who have hardly seen Muttley box deriding his chances/ability.
Just cause he wasnt spoon fed to you on Sky Sports or any other TV channel doesnt mean he cant fight.
Errol Johnson and his team have worked hard to get Lee into the position he is in now - you obviously know little about him but put in quite confident terms how he will be aggresive and play into Andersons hands - you dont know that - you just
hope that.
Talk on subjects you have knowledge of, dont speculate on those that you dont alright son?

The thing is Terrence, you can be as pi55ed off as you like about those who criticise Mutley without having seen him fight, but as I said in my post I actually have seen him fight and dont see what all the fuss is about.
Kevin(imo) would beat Jennings fairly convincingly and as Mutley was awarded a dodgy decision against him(again imo) I doubt he would beat Kev(I know, I know styles make fights etc)
Jennings and Mutley are both boxers who have been stuck at a level that is not going to win them any sort of recognition(world or european) ie. they are both near 30 years old and still squabbling over British titles, Kev however will just be passing through and removing either of them out of his path on his way to bigger things. This sounds very arrogant I know, but he has had the benefit of not being hand fed a load of soft option opponents to pad his record and at 23 years old here he is at the same level as Jennings and co already(I mean we are having this debate afterall) and he has his whole career ahead of him.
Mutley has fought some OK fighters and won( I say OK coz they were not great, not even very good, just OK) and Jennings was the number 1 contender for the world title for absolutely ages yet nothing was mentioned or discussed (as I suspect he knew his limits)
They are only going to see Kev at this level for a brief time and then they will be sticking around at that level while Kev goes on to bigger and better things.
I suppose what im trying to say is " If they were any good(or even as good as your trying to convince yourself they are) they would surely have proved it by now(nearly 30 years old) and moved above the British title level that they seem to be struggling to cope with and showed us what they can do.
Quite frankly, they haven't because they cant.
So if you want to sound as if you know what your talking about I would strongly advise sticking to subjects that your familiar with and not allowing your rose tinted specs to blind you to the facts.
Sorry, frank but true.
Posted: 04 May 2006, 03:48
by Mutley's girl
kerrminator wrote:
"I suppose what im trying to say is " If they were any good(or even as good as your trying to convince yourself they are) they would surely have proved it by now(nearly 30 years old) and moved above the British title level that they seem to be struggling to cope with and showed us what they can do."
Like I said previously Mutley has been avoid at light-welterweight and had to move up a weight to get the chance to fight for the British title. He hasn't been given the chance to prove himself until now and believe me he ain't going to let this opportunity slip away.
You will see!
Posted: 04 May 2006, 04:32
by TerribleTerry
Kerrminator,
Talking of rose tinted spectacles, I think you need to take yours off mate. If you were to read your assessments of Anderson, you would think he were the next coming of Sugar Ray Robinson!!
“great body shots, great chin and great power and a tight defence”
“a great chin into the bargain and far too much heart and hunger.”
“Anderson has great KO power”
“Muttley is custom built for Kev”
“Kev has too much for Muttley”
So I take it you think Kevin has some GREAT attributes then? Is there no weaknesses in this complete fighter's make up? Wow.
By simply stating something, it doesn’t necessarily mean its true – you do know that, don’t you?…
I know a long standing knock against Kevin has been his somewhat leaky defence (of course in Kerr-world it is, obviously, a GREAT defence). This has looked to have been tightened up somewhat in recent fights but it is still an area Mutley can exploit with his hard counter punching style (yes, that’s right mate he isn’t a front foot aggressive fighter as you seem to think but rather a heavy handed counter puncher.) But, we will see come fight night – that’s why they fight the fights.
Now I presume Mutley’s girl will be getting a room with Mutley after the fight, but from the way you go on about Anderson, maybe you should be making a reservation for yourself and Kev at the Birmingham Hilton?…
Also I would be interested to know which of Mutleys fights other then the Jennings match you have seen because as far as I know, only one other has been televised?

Posted: 04 May 2006, 05:28
by b_hammersley
Totally agree with Kerrminator! Ando will stuff Muttley. Terry, how come you always spit the dummy when someone backs Anderson? It doesnt really matter what we all say, at the end of the day it's down to Muttley and Anderson to test each other, but for me there is only one winner, Ando. Let's just see who is celebrating on the night!.
Posted: 04 May 2006, 05:35
by TerribleTerry
b_hammersley wrote:Totally agree with Kerrminator! Ando will stuff Muttley. Terry, how come you always spit the dummy when someone backs Anderson? It doesnt really matter what we all say, at the end of the day it's down to Muttley and Anderson to test each other, but for me there is only one winner, Ando. Let's just see who is celebrating on the night!.
I am looking forward to this one myself mate - it should be a cracker.
Just dont like to see Mutley not getting his due credit. He is an unglamourous champ from an unglamourous city who has come up the tough way on small hall shows. No TV backing, no big time promoter with connections to backroll him.
His story is a success story for boxing and Kerr's arrogant assessment just got under my skin - no hard feelings though, it will be a cracking fight and may the best man win!

Posted: 04 May 2006, 06:58
by b_hammersley
Fair enough Terry. Defo think this will be a good scrap, looking forward to it big time.

Posted: 04 May 2006, 07:27
by Podmore_Birmingham
Strength: That's going to be the deciding factor in this fight.
Anyone who has seen Mutley fight more than once, will know the man posseses awesome strength, imo Anderson will not be able to live with that. Take his last fight with Craig Dickson for example. Anderson was being manhandled by his fellow countryman, and he didnt look terribley strong to me. "Mutt" on the otherhand will be pushing Anderson around- bullying him if you will- the ring and letting his hands go and if he catches Anderson clean.... then it's night night.
Mutley will silence the doubters on June 1st, mark my words.
Tom Podmore.
Posted: 04 May 2006, 07:42
by b_hammersley
Oh Tom, you're judging everything about Anderson in one fight, silly silly. Anderson wasn't getting "man handled" by Dickson, don't know where you got that from, you "should have went to SpecSavers"
Think your forgetting this is a fight not a weight lifting contest, Muttley can try and get physical if he wants, Anderson has had it many times. Funny though, going by some of your early post (think it was you) Muttley generally boxes on the back foot, so how is he going to bull Ando about if he's on the back foot
If you'd ever seen Kev sparring you'd know that NO-ONE bull him about, trust me on that. I hope the Mutt does exactly that, cause he'll leave his chin hanging out, then goodnight.
Don't know why everyone goes on about Muttley power, he looked slow against Jennings i.mo.
Posted: 04 May 2006, 07:51
by TerribleTerry
b_hammersley wrote:
Don't know why everyone goes on about Muttley power, he looked slow against Jennings i.mo.
and there you go, making the same
silly silly mistake you accuse Tom of: judging a fighter on one showing.
Ask Gavin Down or Sammy Smith whether Mutley has power in his hands?
Ask his SUPER MIDDLE stable mate Peter Jackson (who posts on here) if Mutley has a dig?

Posted: 04 May 2006, 07:56
by Top Dog
I've seen Muttley a few times, but not once have I actually thought he was something special. Anderson is going to school this guy. Don't understand all this "Anderson has a bad defence" patter, or the other beauty "Muttley has too much power" where about? He's never looked like a big puncher, good boxer, but not a big puncher.
Must also agree, he looked lazy and slow against Michael Jennings. By the way, he absolutely lost that fight as well, IMO.
Feel a bit sorry for "Muttleys Girl" she's going to be very upset when Anderson gives her man a good beating.

Posted: 04 May 2006, 08:05
by TerribleTerry
As they say; 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating'.
We will see who is right come fight night.

Posted: 04 May 2006, 08:06
by Mutley's girl
Top Dog wrote:I've seen Muttley a few times, but not once have I actually thought he was something special. Anderson is going to school this guy. Don't understand all this "Anderson has a bad defence" patter, or the other beauty "Muttley has too much power" where about? He's never looked like a big puncher, good boxer, but not a big puncher.
Must also agree, he looked lazy and slow against Michael Jennings. By the way, he absolutely lost that fight as well, IMO.
Feel a bit sorry for "Muttleys Girl" she's going to be very upset when Anderson gives her man a good beating.

There's no need to feel sorry for me - Mutley's gonna KO Anderson.

Posted: 04 May 2006, 08:41
by Top Dog
Oh no, Muttley sparred with middle weight guys, christ I bet Anderson doesn't even turn up when he hears that
Listen, that sort of stuff don't mean sh*t, I've personnally seen Anderson K.O. a light heavy weight guy, and a fair few super-middles in sparring, so lets not go down that road. IMO, Muttley looks as slow as a week in the jail!
Muttley did start in the small town venues and it won't be long before he's back there. He won the lottery the night of the Jennings fight, he didn't deserve it, simple as that. That's why I'm tipping Ando to K.O. him, Kev wont want to leave it to STEVE WONDER and his two pals.
Time will tell, so let's wait and see. Hell I might even see some of you folks after the fight, but don't get too angry when us Ando supporters are singing loud and proud.

Posted: 04 May 2006, 09:17
by TerribleTerry
Top Dog wrote:Oh no, Muttley sparred with middle weight guys, christ I bet Anderson doesn't even turn up when he hears that
Listen, that sort of stuff don't mean sh*t, I've personnally seen Anderson K.O. a light heavy weight guy, and a fair few super-middles in sparring, so lets not go down that road.
They must make weak chinned light heavies up where you come from Top Dog!!
All you sweaties are getting very excited about Anderson - lets see what he can do when he comes to the lions den eh?
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Posted: 04 May 2006, 11:44
by spud66
TerribleTerry wrote:b_hammersley wrote:
Don't know why everyone goes on about Muttley power, he looked slow against Jennings i.mo.
and there you go, making the same
silly silly mistake you accuse Tom of: judging a fighter on one showing.
Ask Gavin Down or Sammy Smith whether Mutley has power in his hands?
Ask his SUPER MIDDLE stable mate Peter Jackson (who posts on here) if Mutley has a dig?

Anderson is different class from those guys though m8
Posted: 04 May 2006, 11:54
by Jacko11
Guys without sounding biased which i will cuz Mutley is a stable mate and i have known and trained with him for years, i really think mutley will TKO him, i have seen Anderson and his style will walk right into mutley....great fight cant wait to see it....
I was put down twice in my career once by Jim Rock who hit me off balance and i got right up smilling the other was simeone cover who in my 5th fight i think walked into a hand grenade of a punch which again i got right back up but thref did his job and deemed me un steady to carry on,the point is i have fought ryan rhodes twice and he never dropped me mutley dropped me in sparring i didnt know what the fcuk had hit me i HATED sparring him and he knew it
i have sparred good guys at that weight all over the country.....never been dropped, anyway thats my view
Posted: 04 May 2006, 12:23
by TerribleTerry
Jacko11 wrote:Guys without sounding biased which i will cuz Mutley is a stable mate and i have known and trained with him for years, i really think mutley will TKO him, i have seen Anderson and his style will walk right into mutley....great fight cant wait to see it....
I was put down twice in my career once by Jim Rock who hit me off balance and i got right up smilling the other was simeone cover who in my 5th fight i think walked into a hand grenade of a punch which again i got right back up but thref did his job and deemed me un steady to carry on,the point is i have fought ryan rhodes twice and he never dropped me mutley dropped me in sparring i didnt know what the fcuk had hit me i HATED sparring him and he knew it
i have sparred good guys at that weight all over the country.....never been dropped, anyway thats my view
There you are - a testimonial from an experienced pro on the subject of Mutley's power. What more do you want??!
Still, I am sure a few of you won't be convinced. I am looking forward to the fight and it should be a action packed thriller.
Good luck to both lads, I just hope Mutley can do the business as its healthy for the sport round Brum to have champions fighting in their home town
