Best white boxer of all time?

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:04

Gentlemen, Gentlemen...why the tension? what's the fuss?....whaddya say we discuss this over a pint?

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silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:09

BoxBuzz wrote:Gentlemen, Gentlemen...why the tension? what's the fuss?....whaddya say we discuss this over a pint?

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I think his is a pint of shandy... or perhaps a Martini with an umbrella in the glass!.....

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:12

BoxBuzz wrote:Gentlemen, Gentlemen...why the tension? what's the fuss?....whaddya say we discuss this over a pint?

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Your resident pansy silkov has dug himself into a hole he won't be getting out of.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:14

granberry wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:Gentlemen, Gentlemen...why the tension? what's the fuss?....whaddya say we discuss this over a pint?

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Your resident pansy silkov has dug himself into a hole he won't be getting out of.

Why this obsession with Pansys and limp wrists Cranberry??....

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:18

Why not answer the question of why you have such an obsession with Ali Terap?... eh??

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:27

Silkov,

The only remark I will make about your poor mother is that she deserved better than you, the pansy of boxrec.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:32

granberry wrote:Silkov,

The only remark I will make about your poor mother is that she deserved better than you, the pansy of boxrec.

Well unlike you I won't cry in my shandy over you mentioning my mother. Sticks and stones, sticks and stones!....

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:39

Silkov,

I am mentioning YOU.

You are the pansy of boxrec.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:42

granberry wrote:Silkov,

I am mentioning YOU.

You are the pansy of boxrec.

HHHMMMM!... you need to get out more man...

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:43

granberry wrote:Silkov,

I am mentioning YOU.

You are the pansy of boxrec.

You are the NUT of Boxrec... when did they let you out???....

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 15:45

Didnt you get chucked off cyberbox recently???.... redrooster eh???....

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 06 Aug 2006, 16:34

he does sound like terap i remember reading teraps posts before.

but terap also was very experienced, he interviewed many of the old timer great champs. so i dont know if granberry was him

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 06 Aug 2006, 16:58

granberry wrote:Silkov,

I am mentioning YOU.

You are the pansy of boxrec.

I thought I was the pansy of boxrec. So now I lost my honorary title and it moved all the way to London, the world's pansy-capital. I guess it's gone then.

Interesting how fast ignoring an idiot gets you off his radar screen.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 Aug 2006, 17:10

granberry wrote:Zora Folley

What was wrong with Folley when he fought Ali? Apart from being a little past his best?

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 17:10

pundit wrote:
granberry wrote:Silkov,

I am mentioning YOU.

You are the pansy of boxrec.
I thought I was the pansy of boxrec. So now I lost my honorary title and it moved all the way to London, the world's pansy-capital. I guess it's gone then.

Interesting how fast ignoring an idiot gets you off his radar screen.

Indeed!.... I'll be expecting your honoury pink pajama's in the post someday soon Pundit.

8)

.. I'll PM my address.

.. I wouldnt want Cranberry :x /redrooster :x /Terap

to get hold of it as he'll probably start sending me flowers and cakes!!... :x :x :x

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 Aug 2006, 17:17

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KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 Aug 2006, 17:22

THE BLOOD.
THE BATTLE.
THE HONOUR.

THE PRIZE.

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Cojimar 1945 · Post by **Cojimar 1945** » 06 Aug 2006, 17:32

Ali's perforamances post-Foreman should not be held against him because he was past his prime. Young was not the only one to make a declining Ali look bad. Ali was beaten by Spinks and some feel Norton beat him in their third fight.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 06 Aug 2006, 17:46

Cojimar 1945 wrote:Ali's perforamances post-Foreman should not be held against him because he was past his prime. Young was not the only one to make a declining Ali look bad. Ali was beaten by Spinks and some feel Norton beat him in their third fight.

It shows you how good Ali really was when the haters can

(1) only picks out fights at the end of his career to highlight any serious defects or

(2) make up ridiculous stories that his greatest wins were somehow manufactured or bought

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 17:47

KOJOE90 wrote:THE BLOOD.
THE BATTLE.
THE HONOUR.

THE PRIZE.

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Ahhh! you shouldnt have!... I just hope that its my size!!...

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 17:49

Where would we be without ebay to locate those classy little numbers that you cant get in the shops!... 8)

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Aug 2006, 17:54

Cojimar 1945 wrote:Ali's perforamances post-Foreman should not be held against him because he was past his prime. Young was not the only one to make a declining Ali look bad. Ali was beaten by Spinks and some feel Norton beat him in their third fight.

Look at it the other way, Ali didnt exactly make Young look good... Young was too negative, thats why he lost... for a fading fighter Ali's record post Foreman is hardly bad... he beat Lyle, Bugner, Frazier, Norton, Young and Shavers and lastly Spinks...

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 06 Aug 2006, 20:23

silkov wrote:for a fading fighter Ali's record post Foreman is hardly bad... he beat Lyle, Bugner, Frazier, Norton, Young and Shavers and lastly Spinks...

Probably a better resume in that period than just about any other HW in history. And he was well past his prime!!

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 06 Aug 2006, 21:35

The Great John L wrote:
silkov wrote:for a fading fighter Ali's record post Foreman is hardly bad... he beat Lyle, Bugner, Frazier, Norton, Young and Shavers and lastly Spinks...
Probably a better resume in that period than just about any other HW in history. And he was well past his prime!!

Yeah, but don't forget, according to Granberry, Young and Shavers were "under instruction" to lose.

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 07 Aug 2006, 01:40

Cojimar 1945 wrote:Ali's perforamances post-Foreman should not be held against him because he was past his prime. Young was not the only one to make a declining Ali look bad. Ali was beaten by Spinks and some feel Norton beat him in their third fight.

Tell us about Ali's last two permances pre-Liston.

He was staggered by Doug Jones ' right hand 15 seconds into their fight. He showed no punching power against Jones, who was a head shorter and 25 pounds lighter than Ali. He needed the officials to give him his gift "decision" in a fight that he lost badly---to an overweight lightheavyweight.

Then Ali had his nose bloodied by 185 1/2 lb Henry Cooper 15 seconds into their fight. Cooper knocked Ali into Queer Street with his left hook at the end of round four. And our hewro got extra time between rounds immediately after he was knocked down.

Ali showed in these last two fights before fighting Liston that he

had no defense

was very hittable by Doug Jones and Henry Cooper

was very hurtable (staggered by Jones and knocked down by 185 1/2 lb Cooper)

and had no punching power against two fighters both 25 pounds lighter than he was.

And then in his next fight he beats Liston?

No thank you.

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