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Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:04
by BoxBuzz
Gentlemen, Gentlemen...why the tension? what's the fuss?....whaddya say we discuss this over a pint?
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Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:09
by silkov
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:12
by granberry
Your resident pansy silkov has dug himself into a hole he won't be getting out of.
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:14
by silkov
granberry wrote:
Your resident pansy silkov has dug himself into a hole he won't be getting out of.
Why this obsession with Pansys and limp wrists Cranberry??....
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:18
by silkov
Why not answer the question of why you have such an obsession with Ali Terap?... eh??
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:27
by granberry
Silkov,
The only remark I will make about your poor mother is that she deserved better than you, the pansy of boxrec.
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:32
by silkov
granberry wrote:Silkov,
The only remark I will make about your poor mother is that she deserved better than you, the pansy of boxrec.
Well unlike you I won't cry in my shandy over you mentioning my mother. Sticks and stones, sticks and stones!....
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:39
by granberry
Silkov,
I am mentioning YOU.
You are the pansy of boxrec.
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:42
by silkov
granberry wrote:Silkov,
I am mentioning YOU.
You are the pansy of boxrec.
HHHMMMM!... you need to get out more man...
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:43
by silkov
granberry wrote:Silkov,
I am mentioning YOU.
You are the pansy of boxrec.
You are the NUT of Boxrec... when did they let you out???....
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 15:45
by silkov
Didnt you get chucked off cyberbox recently???.... redrooster eh???....
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 16:34
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
he does sound like terap i remember reading teraps posts before.
but terap also was very experienced, he interviewed many of the old timer great champs. so i dont know if granberry was him
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 16:58
by pundit
granberry wrote:Silkov,
I am mentioning YOU.
You are the pansy of boxrec.
I thought
I was the pansy of boxrec. So now I lost my honorary title and it moved all the way to London, the world's pansy-capital. I guess it's gone then.
Interesting how fast ignoring an idiot gets you off his radar screen.
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 17:10
by KOJOE90
granberry wrote:Zora Folley
What was wrong with Folley when he fought Ali? Apart from being a little past his best?
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 17:10
by silkov
pundit wrote:granberry wrote:Silkov,
I am mentioning YOU.
You are the pansy of boxrec.
I thought
I was the pansy of boxrec. So now I lost my honorary title and it moved all the way to London, the world's pansy-capital. I guess it's gone then.
Interesting how fast ignoring an idiot gets you off his radar screen.
Indeed!.... I'll be expecting your honoury pink pajama's in the post someday soon Pundit.
8)
.. I'll PM my address.
.. I wouldnt want Cranberry :x /redrooster :x /Terap
to get hold of it as he'll probably start sending me flowers and cakes!!... :x :x :x
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 17:17
by KOJOE90
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 17:22
by KOJOE90
Ali
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 17:32
by Cojimar 1945
Ali's perforamances post-Foreman should not be held against him because he was past his prime. Young was not the only one to make a declining Ali look bad. Ali was beaten by Spinks and some feel Norton beat him in their third fight.
Re: Ali
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 17:46
by Collins2000
Cojimar 1945 wrote:Ali's perforamances post-Foreman should not be held against him because he was past his prime. Young was not the only one to make a declining Ali look bad. Ali was beaten by Spinks and some feel Norton beat him in their third fight.
It shows you how good Ali really was when the haters can
(1) only picks out fights at the end of his career to highlight any serious defects or
(2) make up ridiculous stories that his greatest wins were somehow manufactured or bought
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 17:47
by silkov
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 17:49
by silkov
Where would we be without ebay to locate those classy little numbers that you cant get in the shops!... 8)
Re: Ali
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 17:54
by silkov
Cojimar 1945 wrote:Ali's perforamances post-Foreman should not be held against him because he was past his prime. Young was not the only one to make a declining Ali look bad. Ali was beaten by Spinks and some feel Norton beat him in their third fight.
Look at it the other way, Ali didnt exactly make Young look good... Young was too negative, thats why he lost... for a fading fighter Ali's record post Foreman is hardly bad... he beat Lyle, Bugner, Frazier, Norton, Young and Shavers and lastly Spinks...
Re: Ali
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 20:23
by The Great John L
Probably a better resume in that period than just about any other HW in history. And he was well past his prime!!
Re: Ali
Posted: 06 Aug 2006, 21:35
by Collins2000
The Great John L wrote:
Probably a better resume in that period than just about any other HW in history. And he was well past his prime!!
Yeah, but don't forget, according to Granberry, Young and Shavers were "under instruction" to lose.
Re: Ali
Posted: 07 Aug 2006, 01:40
by granberry
Cojimar 1945 wrote:Ali's perforamances post-Foreman should not be held against him because he was past his prime. Young was not the only one to make a declining Ali look bad. Ali was beaten by Spinks and some feel Norton beat him in their third fight.
Tell us about Ali's last two permances pre-Liston.
He was staggered by Doug Jones ' right hand 15 seconds into their fight. He showed no punching power against Jones, who was a head shorter and 25 pounds lighter than Ali. He needed the officials to give him his gift "decision" in a fight that he lost badly---to an overweight lightheavyweight.
Then Ali had his nose bloodied by 185 1/2 lb Henry Cooper 15 seconds into their fight. Cooper knocked Ali into Queer Street with his left hook at the end of round four. And our hewro got extra time between rounds immediately after he was knocked down.
Ali showed in these last two fights before fighting Liston that he
had no defense
was very hittable by Doug Jones and Henry Cooper
was very hurtable (staggered by Jones and knocked down by 185 1/2 lb Cooper)
and had no punching power against two fighters both 25 pounds lighter than he was.
And then in his next fight he beats Liston?
No thank you.
