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Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 09:13
by Lightsoot
SIMPSONS wrote:Ben Carey wrote:
How many of you anaroks would be prepared to pay for boxing content, either televised footage or a news service, over the internet? Only a fraction. The majority of you can't even be arsed to buy DVDs, instead preferring to download fights from illegal sites.
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Trying the Steve Bunce aproach are we fat boy?..go suck a fat 1...we were talking about the pop idol generation of wannabee journo's and self appointed to$$ers..and you fat boy have been the cause of the lack of quality and bullsh!t on British Boxing sites.
Then perhaps you'd like to enlighten everyone by providing actual examples of my supposedly shoddy work.
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 09:36
by SIMPSONS
Ben Carey wrote:SIMPSONS wrote:Ben Carey wrote:
How many of you anaroks would be prepared to pay for boxing content, either televised footage or a news service, over the internet? Only a fraction. The majority of you can't even be arsed to buy DVDs, instead preferring to download fights from illegal sites.
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Trying the Steve Bunce aproach are we fat boy?..go suck a fat 1...we were talking about the pop idol generation of wannabee journo's and self appointed to$$ers..and you fat boy have been the cause of the lack of quality and bullsh!t on British Boxing sites.
Then perhaps you'd like to enlighten everyone by providing actual examples of my supposedly shoddy work.
Can't be bothered to search through your garbage....what is evident though is the general tone of anything you write is patronising.....and this is coming from someone who looks like a farmers son & thought Mark Hobson was the bollox last year and he was going to do this and that...that is not impartial, professional journalism....are you still "gushy" over Mark?
Just let it be known, you may THINK you can write but in reality you come across as the real anorak that knows F.A and has a misguided view that he's on another level.
Also the fact that you and your sibling Spugley would sooner claim a whole boxing forum to yourself and stroke each others crippled egos with only 1 or 2 people posting on there and ban anyone that comes on there and disagrees with you.
Do you really think your write ups have any real impact? How many people actually read them?
The only thing you and Spugley have succeeded in doing as a wanabee internet boxing journo is turn a boxing forum into a ghost town.
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 09:59
by Lightsoot
SIMPSONS wrote:Ben Carey wrote:SIMPSONS wrote:
Trying the Steve Bunce aproach are we fat boy?..go suck a fat 1...we were talking about the pop idol generation of wannabee journo's and self appointed to$$ers..and you fat boy have been the cause of the lack of quality and bullsh!t on British Boxing sites.
Then perhaps you'd like to enlighten everyone by providing actual examples of my supposedly shoddy work.
Can't be bothered to search through your garbage....what is evident though is the general tone of anything you write is patronising.....and this is coming from someone who looks like a farmers son & thought Mark Hobson was the bollox last year and he was going to do this and that...that is not impartial, professional journalism....are you still "gushy" over Mark?
Just let it be known, you may THINK you can write but in reality you come across as the real anorak that knows F.A and has a misguided view that he's on another level.
Also the fact that you and your sibling Spugley would sooner claim a whole boxing forum to yourself and stroke each others crippled egos with only 1 or 2 people posting on there and ban anyone that comes on there and disagrees with you.
Do you really think your write ups have any real impact? How many people actually read them?
The only thing you and Spugley have succeeded in doing as a wanabee internet boxing journo is turn a boxing forum into a ghost town.
Any forum minus your "input" is better off. You say you can't be bothered to support your criticisms of my writing, well, then you can't substantiate your arguments then.
I'll make it easy for you. Here's a link to a number of articles I wrote whilst at britishboxing.net.
http://www.britishboxing.net/team-membe ... Carey.html
My more recent stuff can be located at ukboxingpress.co.uk - take your pick. If you're correct in your assertions you should be able to provide several examples to support your theory.
As for Mark Hobson, I've never made him out to be a superstar - just a decent bloke who can be effective on the domestic and European stage. I, like a number of others, gave him a shot of beating Haye & Maccarinelli. I wasn't the only one who did. There's a difference between supporting someone on a public forum and writing biased articles - the latter I don't believe I'm guilty of.
I don't think I'm better than anyone else, nor do I feel I'm the next Claude Abrams. But I do enjoy writing, care passionately about the domestic scene, have built up some good contacts and have been writing solidly for 4 years. I believe I can craft a decent fight report, interview and previews. Many others would agree, despite what they may think of me as an individual.
I've conducted several interviews, even if you think I'm a crap writer some of the boxers quotes will have been of interest to the majority.
Put you personal issues to one side Simpsons and substantiate your opinions, for once. Otherwise you're just making yourself appear a bitter, misguided fool with a large chip on their shoulder.
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 10:54
by SIMPSONS
Ben Carey wrote:SIMPSONS wrote:Ben Carey wrote:
Then perhaps you'd like to enlighten everyone by providing actual examples of my supposedly shoddy work.
Can't be bothered to search through your garbage....what is evident though is the general tone of anything you write is patronising.....and this is coming from someone who looks like a farmers son & thought Mark Hobson was the bollox last year and he was going to do this and that...that is not impartial, professional journalism....are you still "gushy" over Mark?
Just let it be known, you may THINK you can write but in reality you come across as the real anorak that knows F.A and has a misguided view that he's on another level.
Also the fact that you and your sibling Spugley would sooner claim a whole boxing forum to yourself and stroke each others crippled egos with only 1 or 2 people posting on there and ban anyone that comes on there and disagrees with you.
Do you really think your write ups have any real impact? How many people actually read them?
The only thing you and Spugley have succeeded in doing as a wanabee internet boxing journo is turn a boxing forum into a ghost town.
Any forum minus your "input" is better off. You say you can't be bothered to support your criticisms of my writing, well, then you can't substantiate your arguments then.
I'll make it easy for you. Here's a link to a number of articles I wrote whilst at britishboxing.net.
http://www.britishboxing.net/team-membe ... Carey.html
My more recent stuff can be located at ukboxingpress.co.uk - take your pick. If you're correct in your assertions you should be able to provide several examples to support your theory.
As for Mark Hobson, I've never made him out to be a superstar - just a decent bloke who can be effective on the domestic and European stage. I, like a number of others, gave him a shot of beating Haye & Maccarinelli. I wasn't the only one who did. There's a difference between supporting someone on a public forum and writing biased articles - the latter I don't believe I'm guilty of.
I don't think I'm better than anyone else, nor do I feel I'm the next Claude Abrams. But I do enjoy writing, care passionately about the domestic scene, have built up some good contacts and have been writing solidly for 4 years. I believe I can craft a decent fight report, interview and previews. Many others would agree, despite what they may think of me as an individual.
I've conducted several interviews, even if you think I'm a crap writer some of the boxers quotes will have been of interest to the majority.
Put you personal issues to one side Simpsons and substantiate your opinions, for once. Otherwise you're just making yourself appear a bitter, misguided fool with a large chip on their shoulder.
I care not to read any more of your selected crap.
And i do have a chip on my shoulder, i can't stand you or Spud.
Just answer the question fat boy, why over the years have you attempted to hijack every forum you have posted on?...you can not just post like everyone else instead you are compelled to become a "moderator" then proceed to inflict your "journalism" on the forum then use the moderator powers to edit, delete and ban as you see fit?....and when you can't get your own way and demands on a site you jump ship to another or get banned?
You are a turd as is Spud, why don't you leave sites owned by other people alone and just post your crap, edit, ban and moderate on your own site then no one can have anything to complain about?
And if you are in the right and doing your bit for British boxing then why are all the people that have got banned from Buttalk still posting on other forums?
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 11:07
by Lightsoot
SIMPSONS wrote:Ben Carey wrote:SIMPSONS wrote:
Can't be bothered to search through your garbage....what is evident though is the general tone of anything you write is patronising.....and this is coming from someone who looks like a farmers son & thought Mark Hobson was the bollox last year and he was going to do this and that...that is not impartial, professional journalism....are you still "gushy" over Mark?
Just let it be known, you may THINK you can write but in reality you come across as the real anorak that knows F.A and has a misguided view that he's on another level.
Also the fact that you and your sibling Spugley would sooner claim a whole boxing forum to yourself and stroke each others crippled egos with only 1 or 2 people posting on there and ban anyone that comes on there and disagrees with you.
Do you really think your write ups have any real impact? How many people actually read them?
The only thing you and Spugley have succeeded in doing as a wanabee internet boxing journo is turn a boxing forum into a ghost town.
Any forum minus your "input" is better off. You say you can't be bothered to support your criticisms of my writing, well, then you can't substantiate your arguments then.
I'll make it easy for you. Here's a link to a number of articles I wrote whilst at britishboxing.net.
http://www.britishboxing.net/team-membe ... Carey.html
My more recent stuff can be located at ukboxingpress.co.uk - take your pick. If you're correct in your assertions you should be able to provide several examples to support your theory.
As for Mark Hobson, I've never made him out to be a superstar - just a decent bloke who can be effective on the domestic and European stage. I, like a number of others, gave him a shot of beating Haye & Maccarinelli. I wasn't the only one who did. There's a difference between supporting someone on a public forum and writing biased articles - the latter I don't believe I'm guilty of.
I don't think I'm better than anyone else, nor do I feel I'm the next Claude Abrams. But I do enjoy writing, care passionately about the domestic scene, have built up some good contacts and have been writing solidly for 4 years. I believe I can craft a decent fight report, interview and previews. Many others would agree, despite what they may think of me as an individual.
I've conducted several interviews, even if you think I'm a crap writer some of the boxers quotes will have been of interest to the majority.
Put you personal issues to one side Simpsons and substantiate your opinions, for once. Otherwise you're just making yourself appear a bitter, misguided fool with a large chip on their shoulder.
I care not to read any more of your selected crap.
And i do have a chip on my shoulder, i can't stand you or Spud.
Just answer the question fat boy, why over the years have you attempted to hijack every forum you have posted on?...you can not just post like everyone else instead you are compelled to become a "moderator" then proceed to inflict your "journalism" on the forum then use the moderator powers to edit, delete and ban as you see fit?....and when you can't get your own way and demands on a site you jump ship to another or get banned?
You are a turd as is Spud, why don't you leave sites owned by other people alone and just post your crap, edit, ban and moderate on your own site then no one can have anything to complain about?
And if you are in right then why are all the people that have got banned from Buttalk still posting on other forums?
Can't prove your arguments so you'd rather wash your hands of them - well done Simpsons. This thread is about boxing journalism, my history on forums has nothing to do with that whatsoever you plank.
And if you and others detest me and Woollatt so much then why do you go to such lengths to openly bitch about us? If our opinions aren't worth anything, and you don't respect us or our ability to write articles then why get your knickers in such a twist?
I'm well aware of yours and others personal opinions on me. I'm bored of them. You've aired them, I've heard them, I don't agree with them. But for everyone elses sake its about time you changed the record and dropped the personal attacks.
Your antagonism adds little to this forum. And one more thing. You and others have gone out of your way to slag me off on this forum - remember that. Those individuals are responsible for dragging the tone down all by themselves.
Now either stick to the content of this thread or slag me off via the private message facility. I'm flattered by your hatred.
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 11:33
by SIMPSONS
Ben Carey wrote:SIMPSONS wrote:Ben Carey wrote:
Any forum minus your "input" is better off. You say you can't be bothered to support your criticisms of my writing, well, then you can't substantiate your arguments then.
I'll make it easy for you. Here's a link to a number of articles I wrote whilst at britishboxing.net.
http://www.britishboxing.net/team-membe ... Carey.html
My more recent stuff can be located at ukboxingpress.co.uk - take your pick. If you're correct in your assertions you should be able to provide several examples to support your theory.
As for Mark Hobson, I've never made him out to be a superstar - just a decent bloke who can be effective on the domestic and European stage. I, like a number of others, gave him a shot of beating Haye & Maccarinelli. I wasn't the only one who did. There's a difference between supporting someone on a public forum and writing biased articles - the latter I don't believe I'm guilty of.
I don't think I'm better than anyone else, nor do I feel I'm the next Claude Abrams. But I do enjoy writing, care passionately about the domestic scene, have built up some good contacts and have been writing solidly for 4 years. I believe I can craft a decent fight report, interview and previews. Many others would agree, despite what they may think of me as an individual.
I've conducted several interviews, even if you think I'm a crap writer some of the boxers quotes will have been of interest to the majority.
Put you personal issues to one side Simpsons and substantiate your opinions, for once. Otherwise you're just making yourself appear a bitter, misguided fool with a large chip on their shoulder.
I care not to read any more of your selected crap.
And i do have a chip on my shoulder, i can't stand you or Spud.
Just answer the question fat boy, why over the years have you attempted to hijack every forum you have posted on?...you can not just post like everyone else instead you are compelled to become a "moderator" then proceed to inflict your "journalism" on the forum then use the moderator powers to edit, delete and ban as you see fit?....and when you can't get your own way and demands on a site you jump ship to another or get banned?
You are a turd as is Spud, why don't you leave sites owned by other people alone and just post your crap, edit, ban and moderate on your own site then no one can have anything to complain about?
And if you are in right then why are all the people that have got banned from Buttalk still posting on other forums?
Can't prove your arguments so you'd rather wash your hands of them - well done Simpsons. This thread is about boxing journalism, my history on forums has nothing to do with that whatsoever you plank.
And if you and others detest me and Woollatt so much then why do you go to such lengths to openly bitch about us? If our opinions aren't worth anything, and you don't respect us or our ability to write articles then why get your knickers in such a twist?
I'm well aware of yours and others personal opinions on me. I'm bored of them. You've aired them, I've heard them, I don't agree with them. But for everyone elses sake its about time you changed the record and dropped the personal attacks.
Your antagonism adds little to this forum. And one more thing. You and others have gone out of your way to slag me off on this forum - remember that. Those individuals are responsible for dragging the tone down all by themselves.
Now either stick to the content of this thread or slag me off via the private message facility. I'm flattered by your hatred.
Don't tell me what to do you fat pudendum, incase you hadn't noticed you have zero power on here to tell anyone anything...ask spud what happened to his rant on here yesterday.
Nice way for you to actually get someone to read your rubbish by comming on here and posting links when nobody asked you to.
I agree though the whole thing with you and Spugley is getting boring, i have said what i wanted to say about you two and i am happy enough people will have been given enough information to make their own judgments about the both of you.
From now on just keep your neck in boy.
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 11:43
by Lightsoot
Cheers bigshot. You come on here, hurl a succession of unnecessary insults which you fail to back up. I'm sure Boxrec are delighted by your presence. Your insults if they were aimed at any other poster (with the acception of Woollatt) wouldn't be deemed acceptable.
Like me, I have zero time for you either, but unless provoked I won't go over old ground on every thread. Move on, or bugar off back to Doghouse, or did the new MODS get rid of you there as well?
Posted: 05 Jan 2007, 12:38
by SIMPSONS
Ben Carey wrote:Cheers bigshot. You come on here, hurl a succession of unnecessary insults.
They were necessary.