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Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 12:26
by mattyp151
nickd wrote:Not just that, his face looks terribly gaunt. Could be the weightmaking don't forget that 7lbs of muscle he gained has had to be removed along with all the excess weight etc. He could be drained.
PLease, that 7 pounds of muscle was gone in August. He just has to boil down as normal.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 12:26
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
nickd wrote:Not just that, his face looks terribly gaunt. Could be the weightmaking don't forget that 7lbs of muscle he gained has had to be removed along with all the excess weight etc. He could be drained.
Did he gain 7lbs of muscle or did he just not drain as much as usual? He usually puts on anywhere between 147-155lbs at 140 on the day so if he came in at 155 at 147 he won't have gaiuned much muscle for the fight
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 12:28
by jamesmcdonnell
Ricky stated that he put on extra muscle mass for the fight. He certainly looked more muscular on the night than usual.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 12:31
by mattyp151
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Ricky stated that he put on extra muscle mass for the fight. He certainly looked more muscular on the night than usual.
I doubt it was strictly 7 pounds of Muscle. It's hard to do that while training the way he does to cut the weight. I would say it was probably a 50/50 split muscle/water weight.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 12:38
by nickd
Well whatever the reasons behind it its clear to me Hatton is a lot more gaunt looking in the face than I have ever seen him before in the leadup to a fight.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 12:42
by mattyp151
nickd wrote:Well whatever the reasons behind it its clear to me Hatton is a lot more gaunt looking in the face than I have ever seen him before in the leadup to a fight.
Big time, looks very flushed, but his pale skin in general doesn't really help that.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 12:44
by Autobarn
Hopefully he rehydrates nicely.
Is it all poised for a Urango upset? JU looks in great shape, and if his ability to chase down runners is questionable, will he be a monster in the trenches vs a depleted Hatton?
The Colombian seems to have the fitness, he has the title, the unbeaten ledger - he might be a difficult man to budge & ahard bloke to discourage.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 12:45
by mattyp151
viciousmaussa wrote:Hopefully he rehydrates nicely.
Is it all poised for a Urango upset? JU looks in great shape, and if his ability to chase down runners is questionable, will he be a monster in the trenches vs a depleted Hatton?
The Colombian seems to have the fitness, he has the title, the unbeaten ledger - he might be a difficult man to budge & ahard bloke to discourage.
He didn't beat Ben Rabah, that should explain his talent level.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 12:45
by G-man
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 13:01
by Autobarn
Mattyp151 wrote:viciousmaussa wrote:Hopefully he rehydrates nicely.
Is it all poised for a Urango upset? JU looks in great shape, and if his ability to chase down runners is questionable, will he be a monster in the trenches vs a depleted Hatton?
The Colombian seems to have the fitness, he has the title, the unbeaten ledger - he might be a difficult man to budge & ahard bloke to discourage.
He didn't beat Ben Rabah, that should explain his talent level.
but Rabah is a talented runner who'd make anyone look bad. Different style matchup here - more of a head on collision - and a lot of fighters can raise their game (i.e. Peter)
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 13:06
by mattyp151
viciousmaussa wrote:Mattyp151 wrote:viciousmaussa wrote:Hopefully he rehydrates nicely.
Is it all poised for a Urango upset? JU looks in great shape, and if his ability to chase down runners is questionable, will he be a monster in the trenches vs a depleted Hatton?
The Colombian seems to have the fitness, he has the title, the unbeaten ledger - he might be a difficult man to budge & ahard bloke to discourage.
He didn't beat Ben Rabah, that should explain his talent level.
but Rabah is a talented runner who'd make anyone look bad. Different style matchup here - more of a head on collision - and a lot of fighters can raise their game (i.e. Peter)
You're missing the point. Ben Rabah is a B level fighter on his best of best nights, and Urango CLEARLY did not beat him. I don't understand the worrying over this fight...if you can, get your hands on the ESPN telecast...Urango is not good.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 13:09
by nickd
It will be interesting to see how Hatton looks at Friday's weigh-in. I guess we'll know more then.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 13:29
by Autobarn
Mattyp151 wrote:viciousmaussa wrote:Mattyp151 wrote:
He didn't beat Ben Rabah, that should explain his talent level.
but Rabah is a talented runner who'd make anyone look bad. Different style matchup here - more of a head on collision - and a lot of fighters can raise their game (i.e. Peter)
You're missing the point. Ben Rabah is a B level fighter on his best of best nights, and Urango CLEARLY did not beat him. I don't understand the worrying over this fight...if you can, get your hands on the ESPN telecast...Urango is not good.
Urango couldn't catch a feather fisted runner. That doesn't mean he cannot catch Hatton. Yes, Hatton should have too much, but just because he couldn't touch a marathon runner doesn't mean he can't make an impact on aggressive fighters. I've got Urango-Rabah, a very poor fight, but nonetheless it doesn't tell us what Urango can do vs other styles.
I've not seen any other Urango fights, so I can't comment too far, but Torres was meant to be a nothing fight and yet he almost stopped Cotto. Torres struggled after the Cotto fight, but the Colombian puncher still made a impact on a future superstar.
Ultimately, we'll have to see. Holding a title and having a clean record (apart from the draw) might bring something out of him that ppl might not know exists.
Maybe I just want to see a good fight for my £15 PPV - and admittedly I gave Calzaghe fodder Bika far too much benefit of the doubt in the build up to that fight -
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 15:45
by stujones
Max Molyneux wrote:Where has Kaye's spoken out about Hatton possibly overdoing it?
I cannot find the exact article - but there are some quotes in this one about him being "Under" target weight schedule.
http://www.sportinglife.com/story_get.c ... tlead.html
Sorry about not finding the other one - I have looked around and not sure where I found it.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 16:24
by nickd
I am not paying £15 for this fight, I'll watch it for free afterwards. Its not worth PPV in my opinion.
Posted: 10 Jan 2007, 17:01
by Bard of Boxrec
urango in shocking KO upset.