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The only circumstances where it could be seen as somewhat understandable (but still unacceptable) is if there was the threat of violence from James. If there is a court case expect the defense to use this line of defense regardless of the truth of the matter

its quite clear you are giving these scumbags a rationale for their actions. maybe like me you cant believe a sane person would do such a thing.

Awful story, it's sadly the sign of the times when this type of thing is commonplace in society. My thoughts are with James Oyebola and his family at this time.

My prayers are with him

For what it's worth, he looks like a strong bloke does Oyebola. Who knows, maybe that will have some bearing on a good recovery. But he's been shot in a terrible place. Where about in his face did it hit? What kind of gun was it?

Fvcking scum. I hope they're shitting themselves about getting caught.

Unfortunately James has died, according to this am's Sun Online

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007340481,00.html

Terrible news, my thoughts go out to his partner and children.
James was due to fly to Africa this week to pick up an award for services to African boxing.

my thoughts are with his family

Very Sad news R.I.P

Daveyswan

Tragic news, sign of the times in this country.

we are too busy invading other countries rather than look after our own, most of the country is flooded due to no money being spent on improving our areas, the NHS is in a state, we cannot get a dentist for love or money. Our police practically have no authority.

RIP James

'BIG BAD OYEBOLE'

Won the British title with a great right hand on the greatest F rank Warren show ever.
Say hello to your friend Tee Jay.

We may be a tad hasty in offering our condolences:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/stor ... 68,00.html

This is only an hour old.

Tom Podmore.

Gutted, top bloke RIP.

Hang the scum that did this.

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:We may be a tad hasty in offering our condolences:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/stor ... 68,00.html

This is only an hour old.

Tom Podmore.

I hope you are right, THE SUN is never reliable.

I can find no other story saying he passed away.

I'd hope someone in James's family would sue the Sun if it isn't true.

Very sad news, RIP James Oyebola.

Well, if we want to sort our society out, we'd better start finding out what is causing this upsurge in gun crime fast, and doing something about it.

Simply executing people who perpetrate gun crime ain't gonna work.


It's not a matter of morals, it's a matter of expediency.

RIP James

Lets hope the filth who did this is caught (and preferrably snuffed out)

IS he dead or are we getting a bit ahead of ourselves here??

thepocketrocket wrote:IS he dead or are we getting a bit ahead of ourselves here??

I am not sure If he has passed away or not, the sun is not reliable.

That link on the Sun website is now a dead link, and there's no reports of James' death on the BBC etc, so looks like he's still fighting.

I'm hoping against hope that the big guy pulls through it and is as unscathed as he could be in these circumstances, the Guardian report sounds promising if James can survive. Prayers are with you champ.

PompeyScot wrote:That link on the Sun website is now a dead link, and there's no reports of James' death on the BBC etc, so looks like he's still fighting.

I'm hoping against hope that the big guy pulls through it and is as unscathed as he could be in these circumstances, the Guardian report sounds promising if James can survive. Prayers are with you champ.

Just read that chances are slim but he is still in there.

COME ON JAMES!!


The Sun disgusts me.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Well, if we want to sort our society out, we'd better start finding out what is causing this upsurge in gun crime fast, and doing something about it.

Simply executing people who perpetrate gun crime ain't gonna work.


It's not a matter of morals, it's a matter of expediency.

The upsurge in gun trade is primarily due to the drug trade, it is needed to protect drugs/money, you can't exactly go to the cops to say u've been robbed!

A lot of firearms are being offloaded throughout the old eastern bloc countries.

Obviously guns/crime being glamorised in films/music does not help.
It seems to be most kids back up plan if they don't get on Big Brother!

verballistic wrote:

Coco wrote:

Terry D wrote:One thing that you can say about capital punishment and getting the wrong person is that you cannot make an omlette without breaking a few eggs. Occasionallly an innocent person will be put to death but on the other hand we will be weeding out a lot of bad wheat if we accept capital punishment for certain crimes.

I feel the crux of the capital punishment argument if whether having one guilty man executed is too much.

If we did have the death penalty there will always be errors and innocent men will die.

Is it worth sacrificing a few innocent men to execute many guilty men?

Remember the Birmingham six would have all have been executed.

DNA testing has greatly reduced the chances of an innocent man being fried...and it provides incontrovertible evidence in many cases!!

You are right that advanced science has reduced this risk but as Terry said, eggs will be broken.

I think the argument is, is one innocent life too much? Because there will always be at least one.

I doubt there will be many people who would oppose the death sentance for some of the horrible scum out there, but legislation would have to be put into place to organise this and that is where problems occur.

If it was the simple question, does the likes of Brady, Hindley or Huntley deserve to die, it would be an easy answer

yup but their esistence inside is worse than hell anyway, prison being a nonce is exactly what they deserve a living hell.

Huntley and Brady have both had failed suicide attempts which obviously means they must be suffering where they are if taking their own lives is the only answer.

in which case good, i hope every second drags an eternity.

Coco wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Well, if we want to sort our society out, we'd better start finding out what is causing this upsurge in gun crime fast, and doing something about it.

Simply executing people who perpetrate gun crime ain't gonna work.


It's not a matter of morals, it's a matter of expediency.

The upsurge in gun trade is primarily due to the drug trade, it is needed to protect drugs/money, you can't exactly go to the cops to say u've been robbed!

A lot of firearms are being offloaded throughout the old eastern bloc countries.

Obviously guns/crime being glamorised in films/music does not help.
It seems to be most kids back up plan if they don't get on Big Brother!

Which brings us back to legalising drugs. Take away this lucrative cash stream and cause of turf wars, by selling drugs in licensed outlets, much like we do with alcohol. It will kill the drug trade stone dead, the quality would be better and cleaner, and the gangs would surely decline with it.

The crack trade in South London is what the rise in gang culture is all about.

It won't end gun crime, but I dare say it would reduce it a lot.