Mayweather - Hatton to be confirmed on Monday for Dec 8th

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 29 Jul 2007, 15:14

hattons best performances have all come in fights where its deemed he`s stepping up another level.
when he comes in fit, focused and probably more importantly - a bit scared of his opponent he really turns into a machine.
i actually fancy him to win, i think hattons dreamt of this fight his whole life, THE big one, the real career definer.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 29 Jul 2007, 15:21

Terry D wrote: For me Mayweather is the fittest fighter in the world. I bet, when called on, his stamina is amazing.
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Mayweather doesn't fight with as great an intensity as Hatton though. He throws around 40punches a round - which isn't allot for a world class Welter. Allot of his energy goes into his footwork and snake like slippery. Does he have enough stamina to still throw combinations and throw 60punches a round if need be??

He also seems to like his space to work in. Ricky obviously needs to close the distance and throw 4punch combos to the body, followed by

A key aspect of this fight is Rickys defense - his guard and his head movement as he trys to get inside withotu a jab. Ricky also usually comes straight forward and beats his opponent to the punch. Obviously against Mayweather. Obviously he can't get away any of these tactics. His guard needs to be tight, he need to move his head and jab his way in to unload combinations.

Expect Ricky to play the grab the right arm and work the left hook over to the body ploy.

Questions to be asked:

How is Ricky going to react when he throws 6punch combinations and misses every punch? You can't get demoralised or lose confidense against Floyd because he thrives on confidence.

How well can Ricky cut off the ring against the best mover in the game?

Can Ricky keep his left up and avoid Floyds lead right?

Is the ref goign to allow clinching?

I see a comprehensive UD for Mayweather but Hatton has a shot to make it a 'Brawl in Montreal' scenario

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 30 Jul 2007, 04:55

I think the fight depends on how Mayweather fights - If he chooses to box, keep it at range and spear Hatton with clean fast punches then my guess is he'll come out a winner.

If he leans back on the ropes and uses his defensive abilty, then I think this pays into Hatton's hands.

Mayweather has a tendancy to use the ropes a lot of late, and I don't believe he will get away with that against Hatton.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 30 Jul 2007, 05:19

search wrote:
Terry D wrote:Kostya had fewer fights than Oscar but his KO percentage matches up well. Six men have taken KT the distance and I think 12 men have taken ODH the distance, four of them beating him with the same pattern appearing.

When Tito signed to fight Oscar they did not say Oscar was the dangerman and Tito tricky.

When Mayweather fought Castillo he was not the man carrying danger in both fists. He is a slick boxer, not a dangerous one punch hitter. It is complete nonsense to suggest otherwise.

Boxing is not all about stats.

Kostya is the more dangerous puncher than Floyd, the more dangerous fighter.

It is not a case of knocking Oscar (although he is very, very flawed as a fighter), someone made a comment that was wrong and to justify it people start flying into stats and checking records for KO figures when you can intuitively see that Kostya is the more dangerous fighter.

If you had never sene the guys fight, and was not logged onto Boxrec then watched them do some rounds of sparring Kostya owuld be marked 'dangerous' and Floyd 'tricky'.

I personally was never keen on the Gatti-Hatton fight and thought it was a non-issue anyway as there was no Gatti was beating Baldomir. Gatti has failed consistently when he goes above the level his talent sets for him.
I wonder would Kostya be "dangerous" against Trinidad or Whitaker or Mosley or would be get a boxing lesson?

A man who got stopped by Vince Phillips and cites KO'ing (ZAB JUDAH ) as his biggest win.

Your idea of someone being dangerous differs from mine and PNs and probably the entire board to be honest.

Firstly, Tszyu would'nt get a "boxing lesson2 off anyone mentioned in this thread so far.

And anyone who suggest's that is talking pure bollock's.

The Judah Kostya beat was a very different version to the one Floyd or Cotto beat, trust me.

Zab was being billed as the next big thing, and was undefeated when Kostya blasted him out.

Suffering a defeat like that can destroy a fighter.
Especially one as mentally weak as Zab.

The early version of Zab would have given Floyd and Cotto(I think he would have beat Cotto)a lot more problems.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 30 Jul 2007, 05:31

The one guy who I think would have done Kostya up on that list is Mosley. Mosley had it all at the lower weight, and in his prime was so fast and hit with excellent combinations.

Shane also had an excellent chin, and slipped shots well back when he first moved to 147.

I wish Shane had at least passed through 140, but maybe by then he just couldn't make anything under 147 without doing himself harm. I don't know, but Mosley v Tszyu would have been a fantastic fight.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 30 Jul 2007, 06:53

Yes the Junior-Welter Mosely, the great fighter that never was!

I would have picked him to take Tszyu for sure.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 30 Jul 2007, 08:57

Terry D wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Terry D wrote: You think otherwise and say Oscar and Floyd hit harder than Kostya..

I'll let you have the last word today as I don't want you to get into trouble with the boss BUT BUT BUT I would never be as stupid as to say Mayweather hit as hard as Tyszu (are you mistaking me for Search?). Delahoya at 154 yes, Mayweather not in a million years.

My point in essense is Floyd didn't avoid Tyszu and would have fought him. Hes not scared of big punchers and fought 2 fighters that potentially hit as hard with 1shot in Delahoya and Judah - Judahs uppercut is HUGE. Castillo and Corrales are 2 other examples of Floyd going in with destroyer types.

Anyway have fun with your databases

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Jul 2007, 10:25

Terry,

Well it depends on your definition of "dangerous". If you mean dangerous as in chances of getting sparked out, then yep I agree Kostya was more dangerous than Floyd.... Not Oscar though (will mention him later), I don't think the 140 lbs version of Jose Luis Castillo hits as hard as the 147 lbs version of Floyd either.... but yes, Kostya does/did.

As far as Kostya or Oscar, I can see what your saying but am also inclined to agree with search's view. Alot of your examples where DLH is concerned is off his time as a Welterweight and Light Middle. It has been LONG argued that his punching power was at his peak at Lightweight or Light Welter... although IMO most of his greatest performances came at 154 when he became a grizzled fighter. The DLH who smashed Rafael Reulas in 2 rounds (when did Kostya stop and older Reulas?), the one who turned the fight around with one punch vs Quartey, the one who pummelled Jesse James Leija in two (when did Kostya do him in again?), the one who smashed the normally durable Darryl Tyson in two... That was when Oscar was it his peak in terms of power... and for me everybit, if not more so than as Dangerous as Kostya ever was.

Its also alot about level, Kostya at times looked destructive.... but how many super fights has he had? How many times did he look destructive against sold chinned fighters?

Sure Oscar's power wained as he moved up, but still so would Mayweather's, Hatton's and Kostya's. I have no doubt that if Mayweather could take Oscar's shots at 154... then he would have taken Kostya at 140 and would also take Ricky's.... body shots though could be a different kettle of fish.

As for Mayweather hurting DLH and the "punchbag" Arturo Gatti. I do think both have a huge impact. Sure, at times Hatton's head movement has been excellent - usually against slow, mechanical fighters. Against Tszyu, Collazo, and even vs Maussa.... he was getting caught TOO often coming in and offered no head movement. Why? We'll its my believe that he didn't see the punches coming, and he won't vs either DLH or Mayweahter.

Carbo · Post by **Carbo** » 30 Jul 2007, 10:32

stujones wrote:Terry,
As for Mayweather hurting DLH and the "punchbag" Arturo Gatti. I do think both have a huge impact. Sure, at times Hatton's head movement has been excellent - usually against slow, mechanical fighters. Against Tszyu, Collazo, and even vs Maussa.... he was getting caught TOO often coming in and offered no head movement. Why? We'll its my believe that he didn't see the punches coming, and he won't vs either DLH or Mayweahter.

Surely, head movement when you’re a pressure fighter isn’t about seeing the punches coming, but about always keeping your head moving to make you a more difficult target. Even so, it’s far, far easier to react to punches when your head is in perpetual motion than when its static.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Jul 2007, 10:35

Carbo wrote:
stujones wrote:Terry,
As for Mayweather hurting DLH and the "punchbag" Arturo Gatti. I do think both have a huge impact. Sure, at times Hatton's head movement has been excellent - usually against slow, mechanical fighters. Against Tszyu, Collazo, and even vs Maussa.... he was getting caught TOO often coming in and offered no head movement. Why? We'll its my believe that he didn't see the punches coming, and he won't vs either DLH or Mayweahter.
Surely, head movement when you’re a pressure fighter isn’t about seeing the punches coming, but about always keeping your head moving to make you a more difficult target. Even so, it’s far, far easier to react to punches when your head is in perpetual motion than when its static.

Well whatever its about, the worry fact for Hatton was the state of his face after Collazo rammed his hand in Ricky's face all night. My main point was that Terry was saying Oscar was stationary vs Floyd, maybe... but then Hatton is not exactly mister hard to hit.

Carbo · Post by **Carbo** » 30 Jul 2007, 10:39

stujones wrote:
Carbo wrote:
stujones wrote:Terry,
As for Mayweather hurting DLH and the "punchbag" Arturo Gatti. I do think both have a huge impact. Sure, at times Hatton's head movement has been excellent - usually against slow, mechanical fighters. Against Tszyu, Collazo, and even vs Maussa.... he was getting caught TOO often coming in and offered no head movement. Why? We'll its my believe that he didn't see the punches coming, and he won't vs either DLH or Mayweahter.
Surely, head movement when you’re a pressure fighter isn’t about seeing the punches coming, but about always keeping your head moving to make you a more difficult target. Even so, it’s far, far easier to react to punches when your head is in perpetual motion than when its static.
Well whatever its about, the worry fact for Hatton was the state of his face after Collazo rammed his hand in Ricky's face all night. My main point was that Terry was saying Oscar was stationary vs Floyd, maybe... but then Hatton is not exactly mister hard to hit.

Yup, you're right.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 30 Jul 2007, 10:42

Terry D wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Terry D wrote: You give me the last word then take it for yourself, you swine

I think, in a roundabout way, we got somewhere in the end!

you can't get away with accusing someone of saying Floyd hits harder than Tszyu, that would totally destroy my cred, be happy you didn't get a 10 point reply

1 point is despite Tsyzu (I hate spelling his name

) hitting harder, Floyds accurate well timed punches could hurt and even stop Ricky. People sleep on his power, which could be unwise he isn't feather fisted

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 30 Jul 2007, 10:59

He may hurt Ricky momentarily, as he did Oscar, but a stoppage would either come due to Ricky tiring (unlikely if Ricky is properly fit), cuts, or Ricky becoming disheartened and folding under the cumulative assault.

Tszyu could take people out with one shot, not something Mayweather has ever really been known for.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 30 Jul 2007, 11:04

jamesmcdonnell wrote:He may hurt Ricky momentarily, as he did Oscar, but a stoppage would either come due to Ricky tiring (unlikely if Ricky is properly fit), cuts, or Ricky becoming disheartened and folding under the cumulative assault.

Tszyu could take people out with one shot, not something Mayweather has ever really been known for.

I'm not saying 1 Mayweather shot would do the trick, but an accumulation may do if Hattons guard and head movement aren't upto the task. Mayweather rarely presses for the stoppage but he may against a smaller opponent.

An interesting side note is Mayweather hasn't fought an opponent as short and with as smaller reach as Hatton since he was at 130/135

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 30 Jul 2007, 11:49

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:He may hurt Ricky momentarily, as he did Oscar, but a stoppage would either come due to Ricky tiring (unlikely if Ricky is properly fit), cuts, or Ricky becoming disheartened and folding under the cumulative assault.

Tszyu could take people out with one shot, not something Mayweather has ever really been known for.
I'm not saying 1 Mayweather shot would do the trick, but an accumulation may do if Hattons guard and head movement aren't upto the task. Mayweather rarely presses for the stoppage but he may against a smaller opponent.

An interesting side note is Mayweather hasn't fought an opponent as short and with as smaller reach as Hatton since he was at 130/135

Smaller?

Hatton may be shorter, but he's much stronger than Judah or Gatti.

Hatton is at a reach defecit against almost everyone, don't think this is a massive factor in this fight.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Jul 2007, 17:05

Terry D wrote:
stujones wrote:Terry,

Well it depends on your definition of "dangerous". If you mean dangerous as in chances of getting sparked out, then yep I agree Kostya was more dangerous than Floyd.... Not Oscar though (will mention him later), I don't think the 140 lbs version of Jose Luis Castillo hits as hard as the 147 lbs version of Floyd either.... but yes, Kostya does/did.

As far as Kostya or Oscar, I can see what your saying but am also inclined to agree with search's view. Alot of your examples where DLH is concerned is off his time as a Welterweight and Light Middle. It has been LONG argued that his punching power was at his peak at Lightweight or Light Welter... although IMO most of his greatest performances came at 154 when he became a grizzled fighter. The DLH who smashed Rafael Reulas in 2 rounds (when did Kostya stop and older Reulas?), the one who turned the fight around with one punch vs Quartey, the one who pummelled Jesse James Leija in two (when did Kostya do him in again?), the one who smashed the normally durable Darryl Tyson in two... That was when Oscar was it his peak in terms of power... and for me everybit, if not more so than as Dangerous as Kostya ever was.

Its also alot about level, Kostya at times looked destructive.... but how many super fights has he had? How many times did he look destructive against sold chinned fighters?

Sure Oscar's power wained as he moved up, but still so would Mayweather's, Hatton's and Kostya's. I have no doubt that if Mayweather could take Oscar's shots at 154... then he would have taken Kostya at 140 and would also take Ricky's.... body shots though could be a different kettle of fish.

As for Mayweather hurting DLH and the "punchbag" Arturo Gatti. I do think both have a huge impact. Sure, at times Hatton's head movement has been excellent - usually against slow, mechanical fighters. Against Tszyu, Collazo, and even vs Maussa.... he was getting caught TOO often coming in and offered no head movement. Why? We'll its my believe that he didn't see the punches coming, and he won't vs either DLH or Mayweahter.
I think moving weight is a two-way street there Stu and Ruelas looked a big more solid when he stepped-up in weight. Off the top of my head I'm sure he wasn't long for the division after the loss to ODH and maybe the extra poundage liberated him a little and made him stronger.

Sure Leija said Oscar hits like a heavyweight but again, going off seeing this long, long ago, I don't recall this being a one-shot and out fight but I might be wrong.

Shot for shot, no matter what the division, I see Tszyu as the harder hitter. ODH caught Quartey with a peach of a shot but his follow-up was comprised of arm-flurries when he should, arguably, have taken out Ike.

ODH is great with left hooks but more often than not he has to resort to throwing a hell of a lot of leather as a follow-up to bring the ref in.

I'll always see Kostya as the harder, more clinical puncher.

As for head-movement, I think Oscar wrote the book on a lack of that.

I like ODH, as a career it has been great to watch but this strand illustrates the problem. Where was he best? At what weight was he this murderous puncher? How can we call him dominant at any one weight when he was a often a fleeting visitor and failed to annex every weight from WW onwards and was always second-best in the defining fights at those higher weights.

Also what style did he box? A joy to watch as a youngster in fights against Mayweather and a solid hitter who then became a little more pedestrian and methodical. He then became a solid but not spectacular fighter with zero head-movement and poor foot-work in general before having Mayweather senior patently fail to turn him into a slicker fighter.

With that said I'll have to agree to differ and say, in case it happens, I'd rather get a smack from Oscar, at any weight, than Kostya!

To answer your questions... He was a monsterous puncher at Lightweight/Light Welter. He was a solid puncher at Welter / Light Middle - no one KO artist at these weights, but solid enough to hurt and wear down bigger men. He was a light puncher at Middleweight. I think it was the Oba Carr fight (at Welter) in which the Co-Commentator (I think its the Maestro Watt) says that "it doesn't look like he carries the power".

As for his style, I'm not sure its really that important. He is a very adaptable fighter. Now, I'm not comparing him directly to Hagler here but like Hagler he could slug it with the best and he could box with the best. Gatti is a poor man's DLH. Sometimes he would chose the wrong tactics, for example most experts predicted him to box Hopkins not take it too him as he did, same with Chavez 2, same with Vargas... other times he was tactically strong (Mayweather, Mosley 2). Sometimes he would be punch perfect (Hernardez, Mayorga), other times he would be sloppy (Chavez 2, Sturm). I don't think its a bad thing about you didn't know how he was going to fight.. one of the things I liked about DLH and whilst he might not ever have been in a Barrera vs Morales 1 type of fight - I cannot remember 1 real boring DLH fight, in which he was holding and grabbing. Some of the duller ones (Campas, Castilejo) still had him putting on a clinic which you could appreciate.

I don't know why you knock the fact that he follows up the big KD with arm punches or flurries. Does this mean that Roy Jones or Joe Calzaghe cannot punch either? Its single shots that put most of the fighters I have mentioned in queer street. All of those fighters were essentially out of it, only Quartey survived and he wouldn't have survived a further minute.

Yes, I remember that Jesse James Leija quote... most people said "Leija was too small to fight a monster (for the weight) like DLH". He would go one to win the Super Feather title again, if memory serves me. However, when he fought Kostya he was even fatter (DLH's fight was a Lightweight) and he was never really troubled in the fight. Not saying the Tszyu wouldn't have eventually got the KO, but not via a single shot.

Kostya could be the master boxer aswell... He put on one of my favourite ever displays vs Ben Tackie... an absolute masterclass, comparable with any DLH masterclass I have mentioned. I do think his power has been overated cause of the dramatic nature of one KO. The rest of his resume doesn't suggest he is Mike Tyson.

Cracking box/fighter no doubt, could have lived with any fighter in any era IMO... as could have DLH. Such a shame they never fought.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 30 Jul 2007, 18:36

jamesmcdonnell wrote:He may hurt Ricky momentarily, as he did Oscar, but a stoppage would either come due to Ricky tiring (unlikely if Ricky is properly fit), cuts, or Ricky becoming disheartened and folding under the cumulative assault.

Tszyu could take people out with one shot, not something Mayweather has ever really been known for.

If he times Ricky right like Callazo he could well stop him that way too.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 31 Jul 2007, 09:20

I personally think DLH would have been too fast and too durable for Kostya in an absolute classic. Pressure is one way to beat Tszyu, but sustaining the 1st round that Judah had over him was another (remember Mitchell in match 1 or Urkal gave him one or two problems). Think DLH would have sustained it and even if he would have faded - Kostya would have needed a KO and he wouldn't get it.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 31 Jul 2007, 14:47

to support terry - zoo was what we call a dangerous fighter because against him at any time in the proceedings you could be on the seat of your pants or even fast asleep.
odh was tricky because of his ring smarts and generalship and his ability to win round after round picking up points, in his prime that is, before you knew how to deal with him. and most never did work him out. hence his high standing in world boxing in the last 20 years. i prefer zoo, who was underated in key departments of his game and who had an exocet missile in his right hand.
one of the most lethal weapons any boxer has possessed in recent times

chesh · Post by **chesh** » 31 Jul 2007, 15:08

harrygreb wrote:to support terry - zoo was what we call a dangerous fighter because against him at any time in the proceedings you could be on the seat of your pants or even fast asleep.
odh was tricky because of his ring smarts and generalship and his ability to win round after round picking up points, in his prime that is, before you knew how to deal with him. and most never did work him out. hence his high standing in world boxing in the last 20 years. i prefer zoo, who was underated in key departments of his game and who had an exocet missile in his right hand.
one of the most lethal weapons any boxer has possessed in recent times

Exactly. And Hatton took a fair number of those flush on his way in. That's what makes me think he won't be deterred by Mayweather's potshotting. He might be momentarily stunned by their speed, but they won't stop him. The way I see Mayweather hurting Hatton is with bodyshots. He's an underrated bodypuncher and I'm still not convinced Ricky takes it too well to the belly. I still think Ricky can pull this off though.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 31 Jul 2007, 15:15

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:He may hurt Ricky momentarily, as he did Oscar, but a stoppage would either come due to Ricky tiring (unlikely if Ricky is properly fit), cuts, or Ricky becoming disheartened and folding under the cumulative assault.

Tszyu could take people out with one shot, not something Mayweather has ever really been known for.
I'm not saying 1 Mayweather shot would do the trick, but an accumulation may do if Hattons guard and head movement aren't upto the task. Mayweather rarely presses for the stoppage but he may against a smaller opponent.

An interesting side note is Mayweather hasn't fought an opponent as short and with as smaller reach as Hatton since he was at 130/135
Smaller?

Hatton may be shorter, but he's much stronger than Judah or Gatti.

Hatton is at a reach defecit against almost everyone, don't think this is a massive factor in this fight.

Theres no doubts about Hattons strength and stamina. He may be easier to land on because of his height and reach than the likes of Delahoya/Judah/Mitchell. And then there will be allot of openings to counter because Ricky will pressure Floyd.

Hattons shorter reach will also make it a little harder for him to land shots coming in or from range. Clearly his plan is to close the gap and jabbing his way inside but this will not be easy. Mayweather will make good use of his 5inch reach advantage and his 2 inch height advantage

Basically the point is it is far easier for a 72 inch reach Delahoya to jab his way inside than it is for 66inch reach Hatton to jab his way inside. Continual head movement, forward movement, lunging attacks all followed by combinations may be the solution to that problem but it is no easy hurdle. And once inside Floyd is still tricky to hit clean plus hes fast to side step and counter anything.

I'm definately picking a Mayweather UD, something along the lines of 9-3 or 8-4. Although I won't write Ricky off as hes proven me wrong in the past.

Carbo · Post by **Carbo** » 31 Jul 2007, 15:19

chesh wrote:
harrygreb wrote:to support terry - zoo was what we call a dangerous fighter because against him at any time in the proceedings you could be on the seat of your pants or even fast asleep.
odh was tricky because of his ring smarts and generalship and his ability to win round after round picking up points, in his prime that is, before you knew how to deal with him. and most never did work him out. hence his high standing in world boxing in the last 20 years. i prefer zoo, who was underated in key departments of his game and who had an exocet missile in his right hand.
one of the most lethal weapons any boxer has possessed in recent times
Exactly. And Hatton took a fair number of those flush on his way in. That's what makes me think he won't be deterred by Mayweather's potshotting. He might be momentarily stunned by their speed, but they won't stop him. The way I see Mayweather hurting Hatton is with bodyshots. He's an underrated bodypuncher and I'm still not convinced Ricky takes it too well to the belly. I still think Ricky can pull this off though.

Yes, but like a good jab, the punches that Mayweather throws will keep Hatton off balance while racking up the points.

As light a puncher as Mayweather is, he has enough pop to hold Hatton back from his best work, let me tell you.

Whether he will or not probaby depends on whether Hatton can maintain the Castillo ferocity of 3 minutes of every single round.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 31 Jul 2007, 17:26

Chesh,

I understand what your saying - if he could take the single big Tszyu shot flush, then yes he will take Mayweather's shots flush. Difference is, after Tszyu landed the huge right hand, Hatton would be able to grap etc.

Against Mayweather a right hand will be followed up with a left hook etc... all Landing flush.

Mayweather has a massive speed advantage over Tszyu... this I think is crucial.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 31 Jul 2007, 17:31

and this is where i think ricky may surprise us. we are assuming ricky will go hell for leather for every min of every round. in my view, no.
they will work cleverer than that. i think floyd is able to adjust to constant pressure as long as the intensity stays at the same level throughout.
it may pay hatton to do nothing sometimes and lots at other times. floyd may well have to vary his work and even open up on the occasions that ricky eases off. its a theory. why i say this is i think floyd is quick at making up his mind how to deal with an opponent. have a couple of options and floyd has to leave his comfort zone. what do ya think?

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 31 Jul 2007, 21:13

harrygreb wrote:and this is where i think ricky may surprise us. we are assuming ricky will go hell for leather for every min of every round. in my view, no.
they will work cleverer than that. i think floyd is able to adjust to constant pressure as long as the intensity stays at the same level throughout.
it may pay hatton to do nothing sometimes and lots at other times. floyd may well have to vary his work and even open up on the occasions that ricky eases off. its a theory. why i say this is i think floyd is quick at making up his mind how to deal with an opponent. have a couple of options and floyd has to leave his comfort zone. what do ya think?

His gameplan changes through out fights. He's a lot smarter in the ring than out, that's for sure.