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jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:

DG. wrote: PM me and I will email you the fight.

Witter did bloody well, ignore the HBO wankers - Witter won 4 rounds in my book - maybe 5!

If you honestly think it's worth getting, I'll add it to my list for Red Dragon next week.

However, if it's poop, you owe me £1,000.

Think you'll find I'm firm but fair.

D.G is right on this occasion.

I watched the fight recently after ordering it on DVD, and although he lost clearly, you got the impression that with just a bit more self belief, he could have beaten Zab. He made Judah look absolutely amateurish at times, and looked like the class fighter of the two.

I gave him four rounds I think.

The Showtime backlash was at least partly to do with the fact that 'Super' Zab Judah was made to look ordinary. Witter was meant to go over there, give it a go, and get bashed up to make Judah look good. It was all nice and cushy between Jay Larkin and Warren, and it backfired and Larkin never forgave Witter.

For the record I gave him two. I don't give points for cowardice, if I did Johnny Nelson would have been unbeaten

Captain Hook wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote: If you honestly think it's worth getting, I'll add it to my list for Red Dragon next week.

However, if it's poop, you owe me £1,000.

Think you'll find I'm firm but fair.

D.G is right on this occasion.

I watched the fight recently after ordering it on DVD, and although he lost clearly, you got the impression that with just a bit more self belief, he could have beaten Zab. He made Judah look absolutely amateurish at times, and looked like the class fighter of the two.

I gave him four rounds I think.

The Showtime backlash was at least partly to do with the fact that 'Super' Zab Judah was made to look ordinary. Witter was meant to go over there, give it a go, and get bashed up to make Judah look good. It was all nice and cushy between Jay Larkin and Warren, and it backfired and Larkin never forgave Witter.

For the record I gave him two. I don't give points for cowardice, if I did Johnny Nelson would have been unbeaten

Now you've forced me to get it, just to see who's right.

I'll see if I can find it, I've got it somewhere, and it's not exactly one of my most treasured possessions.

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

Chambers2 wrote:

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

Hitman, I remember you saying before the Witter-Harris fight that if Junior wins then it is time for Ricky to fight him?? Is that still your opinion?


The Calzaghe-Froch situation is different to the Hatton-Witter one, Hatton-Witter have gone through the same stages of their careers at the same time and the fight has been called for for ages. Froch and Calzaghe have always been at different stages of their careers

alright stu. :P

yeah i did say that.

and i still stand by that.

the fight should be made.

but there's still a part of me that loves to see u lot moan about it till ya blue in the face.

let witter squirm a bit longer.

Fair play to ya for sticking to what your word.

Even Rickys Die-Hardest fan is saying that it's time for him to fight Witter

Chambers2 wrote:

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

Chambers2 wrote: Hitman, I remember you saying before the Witter-Harris fight that if Junior wins then it is time for Ricky to fight him?? Is that still your opinion?


The Calzaghe-Froch situation is different to the Hatton-Witter one, Hatton-Witter have gone through the same stages of their careers at the same time and the fight has been called for for ages. Froch and Calzaghe have always been at different stages of their careers

alright stu. :P

yeah i did say that.

and i still stand by that.

the fight should be made.

but there's still a part of me that loves to see u lot moan about it till ya blue in the face.

let witter squirm a bit longer.

Fair play to ya for sticking to what your word.

Even Rickys Die-Hardest fan is saying that it's time for him to fight Witter

What did I tell you about Hatton/Witter tax Stu

Its Wrists fault he started the stupid thread, I tried to ignore it, but it was nagging away at me

My apologies the ban is now back in effect

Lou Saverse put up a better fight that night than Witter.

Goz wrote:Lou Saverse put up a better fight that night than Witter.

Thak God you're here to talk sense! What is it with Witter fans?!

And hand on heart, how many of you have been to see him live?

DG. wrote:

HughJohnson wrote:

DG. wrote:

Dont forget the letter off his mum....

Do enlighten me......Soooo when Junior was getting beaten off a chinny novice who was HAtton fighting.

Junior won!

Check out the bill. Hatton was matched tough.
Nynex Arena, Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom
Naseem Hamed W Wilfredo Vazquez TKO 7 12
Carl Thompson W Chris Eubank UD 12 12
Herbie Hide W Damon Reed TKO 1 12
Junior Witter W Jan Piet Bergman PTS 6 6
Anthony Farnell W Harry Butler PTS 6 6
Ricky Hatton W Karl Taylor TKO 1 6
Michael Gomez W Benny Jones PTS 4 4
Peter Buckley L Anthony Mulholland PTS 4 4
Jason Thomas D Hector Orozco PTS 4 4
Graham Townsend L Robin Reid TKO 6 0
Kelly Oliver W Nigel Rafferty TKO 4 0
Jim Rock L Ensley Bingham TKO 7 0

oh yeah...sorry..read your post wrong...good card, Damon Reed golden trunks... ..he was shite.

I want to see Hatton demolish Witter but you and others calling a guy who has has 40+ pro fights a coward is a bit rich for my gout hating blood.

Props to DG for making this available.

I love the way we're arguing about how badly a fighter has lost. Only in Britain. :P

1 - Judah
2 - Draw
3 - Judah
4 - Judah
5 - Judah
6 - Judah
7 - Draw
8 - Witter
9 - Judah
10 - Judah
11 - Judah
12 - Witter

118 - 110

http://www.viddler.com/explore/venu44/videos/3/27.904/

Chambers2 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote: D.G is right

I've never seen that wrote a forum before

Is that English? - ya ginger!

PS, when you want to get a decent suit, pm me and I will point you to
Savile Row. William - not Ozwald!

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Props to DG for making this available.

I love the way we're arguing about how badly a fighter has lost. Only in Britain. :P

1 - Judah
2 - Draw
3 - Judah
4 - Judah
5 - Judah
6 - Judah
7 - Draw
8 - Witter
9 - Judah
10 - Judah
11 - Judah
12 - Witter

118 - 110

http://www.viddler.com/explore/venu44/videos/3/27.904/

I gave Witter 4 rounds!

He did a good job. Imagine Hatton in with Judah at that stage... TIMBER! - headbutt Ring Post time all over again!

Captain Hook wrote:

DG. wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:Did you just say you thought Witter won five rounds against Judah?

No - I said I thought you were a rent boy!

There appears to be a trend with Witter fans.

Deluded, immature, and hellbent on talking about homosexuality at any possible point. Bless...

Shut it , you gay!

If Hatton doesn't fight Junior after he fights Hlatswayo/or whoever then I will be pissed and I'm a fairly die-hard Ricky fan.

I’ve never really been able to buy into the excuse Witters people give to the Judah loss.

The only slight excuse they may have is that he had only 17 previous fights as opposed to Zab who’d had 23 previous.

Witter had been a pro 3yrs and 5mths.
Judah had been pro about 4ths longer.

Witter was 26yrs old.
Judah was 22yrs old.

Both guys were scheduled to fight – so the late notice change would have affected Zab worse than Witter I’d think. Because wasn’t he supposed to be fighting an orthodox type fighter? .. not an unorthodox switch-hitter.

Watching the fight again - it’s the same Junior Witter of today, I didn’t see anything he left out when fighting Judah that he does now.

Dioufy wrote:If Hatton doesn't fight Junior after he fights Hlatswayo/or whoever then I will be pissed and I'm a fairly die-hard Ricky fan.

I'm the same mate.

tonyevs wrote:I’ve never really been able to buy into the excuse Witters people give to the Judah loss.

The only slight excuse they may have is that he had only 17 previous fights as opposed to Zab who’d had 23 previous.

Witter had been a pro 3yrs and 5mths.
Judah had been pro about 4ths longer.

Witter was 26yrs old.
Judah was 22yrs old.

Both guys were scheduled to fight – so the late notice change would have affected Zab worse than Witter I’d think. Because wasn’t he supposed to be fighting an orthodox type fighter? .. not an unorthodox switch-hitter.

Watching the fight again - it’s the same Junior Witter of today, I didn’t see anything he left out when fighting Judah that he does now.

Its about 'perceived ' levels.


Witter was decent domestic - Za one of the best in the World.

Witter is much better today, plus much stronger.

Dioufy wrote:If Hatton doesn't fight Junior after he fights Hlatswayo/or whoever then I will be pissed and I'm a fairly die-hard Ricky fan.

i think ya gonna be disappointed for a little while yet.

malignaggi in new york will happen after lazcano/isaac.

hopefully witter gets exposure on HBO in the next few months.

and i reckon the ball will start rolling for the fight.

DG. wrote:Its about 'perceived ' levels.


Witter was decent domestic - Za one of the best in the World.

Witter is much better today, plus much stronger.

witter has definitely improved since then.

one thing never changes though.

he'll get flakey when hatton is still there after 5 or 6 rds.

DG. wrote:
Its about 'perceived ' levels.


Witter was decent domestic - Za one of the best in the World.

Witter is much better today, plus much stronger.

Wrong!

Zab was coming off his best win over Bergman, the same Bergman Witter beat 4 fights previously.

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

Dioufy wrote:If Hatton doesn't fight Junior after he fights Hlatswayo/or whoever then I will be pissed and I'm a fairly die-hard Ricky fan.

i think ya gonna be disappointed for a little while yet.

malignaggi in new york will happen after lazcano/isaac.

I could live with that I suppose. Especially if Ricky stops him, something which Cotto couldn't do, but after that, he's got to unify against Junior, providing Junior still has that belt. If he doesn't then his legacy will be tarnished, and he'll always be known for avoiding his main English rival - it's actually not as if they're new to each other as they've being touting each other for ages, so for this fight not to happen will be a massive comedown on Ricky's career, which would be sad, but a little justified in my opinion.

Twinkle Toes wrote:

DG. wrote:
Its about 'perceived ' levels.


Witter was decent domestic - Za one of the best in the World.

Witter is much better today, plus much stronger.

Wrong!

Zab was coming off his best win over Bergman, the same Bergman Witter beat 4 fights previously.

Zab was supposed to be the NEW PERNELL WHITAKER with a punch.

Witter was not perceived as such, PERCEIVED LEVELS.

Even WITTER came out of the fight knowing that he could hang with the best in the World.

THAT FIGHT PROVED IT TO HIM, so why not you?

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

DG. wrote:Its about 'perceived ' levels.


Witter was decent domestic - Za one of the best in the World.

Witter is much better today, plus much stronger.

witter has definitely improved since then.

one thing never changes though.

he'll get flakey when hatton is still there after 5 or 6 rds.

Do 1 bumboy, your boy is fat & brain damaged like you.

StepinFetchit wrote:

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

DG. wrote:Its about 'perceived ' levels.


Witter was decent domestic - Za one of the best in the World.

Witter is much better today, plus much stronger.

witter has definitely improved since then.

one thing never changes though.

he'll get flakey when hatton is still there after 5 or 6 rds.

Do 1 bumboy, your boy is fat & brain damaged like you.

i guarantee i'm slimmer than u prick boy.

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

StepinFetchit wrote:

hitman_hatton1 wrote: witter has definitely improved since then.

one thing never changes though.

he'll get flakey when hatton is still there after 5 or 6 rds.

Do 1 bumboy, your boy is fat & brain damaged like you.

i guarantee i'm slimmer than u prick boy.

Will you two get a room!