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Arbachakov wrote:

granberry wrote:

Arbachakov wrote:Elmer's statement of Gomez being flatfooted and straightup is laughable.

Gomez had some of the best footwork and upper-body movement of any fighter in the world at the time.

He was a monster and more highly regarded than sanchez or Pedroza by a considerably margin.

Hence why him losing to Sanchez in the manner he did was such a shock.

Gomez was a FOUL fighter.

When he fought in Puerto Rico,

he was given free license by the refs to foul to his heart's content.

The ending of his fight with Zarate is on youtube.

Gomez hits Zarate while he down--

and commits how many other fouls in the space of a few seconds?
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I don't disagree he was exceptionally dirty.

Doesn't mean he also wasn't exceptionally skillful.

He WON fights using the 'dirty.'

And he was allowed to by so-called 'referees.'

Borinken25 wrote:

Collins2000 wrote:

elmersalsa wrote: How could a fantasy match imply that Sanchez did ducked Pedroza. He is telling the stuff that were happening at the time, then he came with a fantasy fight.

Elma,

After the section headed The Background, all the rest, including the $500,000 is the fantasy build up and fantasy match.

Trunzo makes this perfectly clear by heading it The Way it Should Have Been.

I shouldn't really have to explain this to you, should I?

The fact that you thought it was real merely proves my premise that you know nothing at all about that era.

The most fear fighter of that era around those weight classes was without a doubt Wilfredo Gomez and Sanchez beat the crap out him. To imply that Sanchez ducked Pedroza is extremely irrational. Pedroza was a no name that lost by KO twice in 1976 and that really kill his name. His loss to Zamora really killed his name. Even Juan La Porte was a bigger name than Pedroza.

Please stop with the nonsense conspiracy theories. You have been exposed, imagine that bringing a make believe fairy tale of “THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN” as a fact.

I do thank you for making me laugh until tears came out of my eyes. That is some really funny stuff.

Btw is did live through that era, nobody told me about it and I didn’t read in some magic make believe book/internet site.

I asked elmer for evidence proving that Sanchez was afraid or ducking Pedroza... I guess this is his idea of proof

Granberry... tell us about the referees in Marciano's fights... why did they let Rocky get away with low blows, elbows, head butts, hitting behind the head, hitting his opponents when they were down?

When your special white Heavyweight fighters fouls, its ok. When a Hispanic Jr. Featherweight fouls, then granberry doesn't like it. Granberry has a tendency to apply double standards; probably because he's an asshole.

I Feel Fine wrote:

Borinken25 wrote:

Collins2000 wrote:
Elma,

After the section headed The Background, all the rest, including the $500,000 is the fantasy build up and fantasy match.

Trunzo makes this perfectly clear by heading it The Way it Should Have Been.

I shouldn't really have to explain this to you, should I?

The fact that you thought it was real merely proves my premise that you know nothing at all about that era.

The most fear fighter of that era around those weight classes was without a doubt Wilfredo Gomez and Sanchez beat the crap out him. To imply that Sanchez ducked Pedroza is extremely irrational. Pedroza was a no name that lost by KO twice in 1976 and that really kill his name. His loss to Zamora really killed his name. Even Juan La Porte was a bigger name than Pedroza.

Please stop with the nonsense conspiracy theories. You have been exposed, imagine that bringing a make believe fairy tale of “THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN” as a fact.

I do thank you for making me laugh until tears came out of my eyes. That is some really funny stuff.

Btw is did live through that era, nobody told me about it and I didn’t read in some magic make believe book/internet site.

I asked elmer for evidence proving that Sanchez was afraid or ducking Pedroza... I guess this is his idea of proof

Granberry... tell us about the referees in Marciano's fights... why did they let Rocky get away with low blows, elbows, head butts, hitting behind the head, hitting his opponents when they were down?

When your special white Heavyweight fighters fouls, its ok. When a Hispanic Jr. Featherweight fouls, then granberry doesn't like it. Granberry has a tendency to apply double standards; probably because he's an asshole.

ifeelfine LICKS assholes.

But 'moderator' buzz allows collins and his boy ifeelfine to destroy boxrec.

Great work, buzz.

Marciano even admitted to head butting Joe Louis... Joe Louis... the golden calf of boxing history. Why did the referees let Rocky get away with that granny? Was it because he was a big name up and coming fighter, and referees don't like to interfere in big fights if they don't have to?

Why do you only single out fighters you don't like? Why do the rules of boxing apply to Gomez and to another fighter we won't mention, but not to Rocky? You showed us in the other thread that you're an admirer of Rocky. Do the rules of boxing only apply to fighters you dislike?

Granberry gets confused easily... probably because he has a hangover.

I Feel Fine wrote:Marciano even admitted to head butting Joe Louis... Joe Louis... the golden calf of boxing history. Why did the referees let Rocky get away with that granny? Was it because he was a big name up and coming fighter, and referees don't like to interfere in big fights if they don't have to? Why do you only single out fighters you don't like? You showed us in the other thread that you're an admirer of Rocky. Do the rules of boxing only apply to fighters you dislike?

Granberry gets confused easily... probably because he has a hangover.

buzz is allowing the destruction of boxrec

granberry wrote:buzz is allowing the destruction of boxrec

Aww granberry is crying out for help. He's asking that shill buzz to come to his rescue and save him from having to answer for his double standards. Granberry can't fight his own battles... he needs help from authority figures, just like Marciano did when the referees let him foul his way to victory time and again... like when he knocked out Charles with a shot behind the head

boxrec has now become a series of petty attempts at insults by posters with no interest in boxing

granberry wrote: ifeelfine LICKS assholes.

But 'moderator' buzz allows collins and his boy ifeelfine to destroy boxrec.

Great work, buzz.

Poor old granberry, the wannabe boxing expert.

He got a severe kicking yesterday for acting like a twat in "the greatest thread ever" but now looks to tell others how to behave.

I say to you, granberry, "Squeal like a pig, boy!".

collins is in the process of destroying boxrec

collins' Rick Farris, the 5 fight wonder, posts his attempts at insults there and when I answer them my answers are deleted.

collins' boy Rick Farris has a drinking 'problem' and he borrows money from people and doesn't pay it back, according to those who know him.

collins is well on his way to destroying what is left of boxrec

granberry wrote:boxrec has now become a series of petty attempts at insults by posters with no interest in boxing

So says the most petty poster of all time.

Fekk man, I can't believe that you are such a hypocrite.

You loved handing out the abuse until it was turned back on you.

Now you are crying and whining like a twat.

Even boxbuzz will realise what a ponse you are before too long.

The poisonous feminine snake of boxrec, collins,

is in the process of destroying boxrec.

Granberry loves to

rag on "billygoat" Holyfield for his

head

butting but when it comes to Marciano granberry will look the other way, because in granberry's mind there is

no such

thing

as fouls when it comes to Marciano because granberry has one set of standards

for his favorites and ano-

ther set of standards for everyone else.

Granberry is a Marciano

shill. Granberry also

attacks other posters, but whines like a little b-

tch when someone calls him out for his

lack of insight and for his drunken double standards, and for his

odd way of typing out posts like this

when he could easily use paragraphs, but instead

types his posts out this way; probably to get

attention.

Granberry is a whiney skunk member of the religions of Marciano and

Louis; granberry is a polytheistic heathen.

boxrec is in the process of being destroyed.

Congratulations collins, ifeelfine and company.

Terap

granberry wrote:collins is in the process of destroying boxrec

collins' Rick Farris, the 5 fight wonder, posts his attempts at insults there and when I answer them my answers are deleted.

collins' boy Rick Farris has a drinking 'problem' and he borrows money from people and doesn't pay it back, according to those who know him.

collins is well on his way to destroying what is left of boxrec

Granberry
Why did you say that stuff about Farris having a drinking problem and being a welsher to the whole world? You could have sent him a PM. Why the hell do you have to bring that crap up? How do you know it's true? Because someone said it to you,it's true. Who said it to you? I'll be honest when I read this yesterday,I got as far as 5 fight wonder and stopped reading. I figured you were doing your usual insult bit. But now your accusing a guy of being a drunk and a welsher because someone told you. People who know him. Who are these people? Why don't they get on here and say it to him? If someone said you were a drunk and a welsher,I'd tell them"You go post it". That showed no class.

If someone said that about me from hearing it from someone else ,you better hope I don't meet up with you.

dagos,

Why does Farris post his juvenile attempts at insults to me to the whole world on his thread?

Why are MY posts deleted when I answer him?

Farris was a bantamweight? featherweight?
He will definitely need all the help in the world.
Meanwhile everything I write in answer to his crap is true.

This the same Rick Farris who wrote on that same thread:

Rick Farris wrote:
Granberry-

Good stuff amigo!

-Rick Farris

_____________________________________________________

Rick Farris wrote:Granberry,

Your information on Yaqui Lopez in Philly, Saad Mahammad, etc. was great!

' ' '
-Rick

That was before collins started manipulating him like a two-year-old.

Meanwhile collins continues to successfully destroy boxrec.
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That's about the 30th person who has now come out against granberry's style of posting.

Not exactly a resounding vote of confidence in the self-proclaimed boxing expert is it, folks?

I think granberry should do us all a favour and leave now with little Davey under one arm and Elma under the other.

collins works 24/7 to destroy boxrec.

For whatever it's worth, Sanchez said in interviews shortly before his death that he had no particular interest in fighting Pedroza, as he believed his own title claim to have wider recognition.

And yes, he also said he wanted to move up to lightweight eventually and fight Arguello.