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DavidPayne wrote:Hatton has become too sincere.

The Mr. Entertainment line is a joke.

He would earn loads for fighting Witter - loads.

Problem is, it brings risk without kudos in America.

They just want to stay on the PBF-DLH circuit long enough to bank another $25million.

You cant blame him, but just be honest. As he always tells us he is.

"I'm not fighting Junior because its a tricky, awkward risky fight with little to gain by way of comparison to walk forward brawlers like Lazacano - and I need to rebuild to make fights with PBF more plausible as PPV."

"After PBF and DLH, if I'm not too smashed up and Witter will go to 147 pounds, I'll fight him before I retire."

You have just hit the nail on the head - bingo!!!

Why fight Witter when you can shmoozle in USA an bank a few quid - he can fight Witter when he's banked his dollars...

A boxers life is a short one at the top - you can't blame a guy for going for the dollar sign..

If I could bank 25 million you could stand outside my house all day long calling me chicken and I'd be laughing my ass off thinking "yeah a rich one though.. "...

DG. wrote:

marvelousmarvin wrote:DG

I take it you dont like hatton

I did - then I didn't - then I did - now I don't!

He aint gonna beat floyd simple

He offer to prove himself the top LWW and part me this is to fight witter

Who do you think would win and all boxers have their own hitmanhatton and plopeater

Ps What is a nutthugger anyone...?

DG. wrote:[
PBF - only prime fighter he fought and he barely landed a punch!

He did more damage to the ring post THAN PBF!

chris_23 wrote:Ps What is a nutthugger anyone...?

someone who believes their favourite fighter is the best and won't accept any criticism of them.

I think

who are the worst nuthuggers so i can avoid pointless debates with them

marvelousmarvin wrote:who are the worst nuthuggers so i can avoid pointless debates with them

TML - He nuthugs Cotto, Molitor, Bute and Sturm.

Cheers guys... kept seeing the term and wasn't sure what it meant... I thought it mean't mad travelling fans with a propensity for violence... LOL

I'm not a Witter or Hatton fan really - I watch them both, cheer them both on and just observe..

Me thinks its all about the money - and if you are getting punched in the head for a living I think that gives you the right to pick your opponents on their value and how likely it is they mess your brains up..

If I were Hatton - I'd fight this guy in May, De LaHoya in Dec, rematch Mayweather then Witter & retire a fat happy man.... at 31

Boxing Tw*t wrote:Spud, you blagged two trips with Hatton and you've suddenly become an expert. Look at the posts on here, ask people, what they think and they ARE losing respect for Hatton due to his constant BS regarding the Witter situation. His excuses over the years have not been consistant at all and a new reason appears every week. Team Hatton do make the decisions I agree, but ask yourself who is the boss of team Hatton? What would Team Hatton do without their boss, eff all and be nothing. Hatton makes the decisions and cdhooses to hide behind people who know FA about Boxing, people like you, Spud, yes men in a free tracksuit. The bottom line is, if Hatton wanted to fight Witter and really fancied the job, he would whether his gravy train drivers agreed or not. He IS Team Hatton and hiding behind them is a very transparent excuse indeed unless your rose tinted glasses need a polish.

Boxing Tw*t - as always your post deserves a reply:

Lets get down to reasonable debate - because I really do believe you are wrong about Hatton losing the respect of the British Public - your post implies the majority are in dissent - when in reality it is a minority that either visit these forums or who work or are involved in the sport in some way - the majority of the public who know f*ck all about boxing whether we like it or not are well in favour of Ricky Hatton.

As always my argument is very simplisitic - if I am wrong I will ask you a question - when Hatton was a rising star I will actually argue your paymasters struggled sometimes to fill the MEN unless you filled the undercard with some decent ticket sellers - you also did what happened a lot at the MEN - made very good use of the black curtains!!! - I would also argue the only time the MEN truly sold out was for the KT fight!!!

Now Ricky Hatton has just returned in my view from a right pasting from Floyd Mayweather - he is in a nothing fight with Juan Lazcano YET THE FIGHT IS GOING TO BE SOLD OUT WITH 50K PLUS - ticket sales, TV revenue and memorabilia will gross obscene amounts and certain people I and others despise so much will be laughing their b*llocks off and will be able to make a number of bonfires with the piles of money they are going to make - that to me is not Ricky Hatton losing the respect of the British Public!!!!

Furthermore Boxing Tw*t - my rose tinted spectacles have been lost for a few months you will have to trust me on that - my 2nd trip to Vegas last year enlightened me to an awful lot and made me realise boxing is really not worth getting stressed out about there are bigger things to worry about - I will say again regardless of what you and others think I learnt an immense amount in the last 8 years - so keep the personal sh*t out of things!!

Boxing Tw*t wrote:No one going is around calling Ray or Paul Speak a coward are they. Ricky laces up the gloves and Ricky does the fighting and it will be him who get's called 'chicken' for years to come if he fails to step up, not them.

For me he beats Witter all day long, Witter will fade and go into running mode, it's in his genes he won't change. if Hatton stays off the beer long enough and trains for it he would beat Witter hands down and what a sweet victory it would be for him personally, before he moves on without any publioc pressure. So why doesn't he give his public what they want, maybe for a few quid less I grant you, but eirther way more than he would have got for Castillo and Tszyu due to his increased standing. Give the public a real present, as it was they who swelled his purse to bursting point by buying record PPV for his Mayweather humiliation and they who paid the extortionate mark up on the tickets from HIM (Via team Hatton) so why doesn't he genuinely put something back and give his loyal fans and the sport what's required.

The above is answered very easily indeed - Ricky Hatton does not want to fight Junior Witter and more importantly he does not need to from a financial perspective or a popularity perspective!!! - Ricky is like you Boxing Tw*t he thinks he can beat Witter so there isn't even that incentive of not knowing to entice him to the negoitiation table.

Until the GENERAL public and not just the boxing public - and also until the MEDIA turn on Hatton and demand the fight there is no f*cking chance whatsoever of the fight ever happening!!!

Boxing Tw*t I think it is a shame but me and yes I will admit it even me and many more others on here want to see the fight happen - but we are boxing fans - even if you did a poll in bloody Bradford and asked them who Ricky Hatton was and who Junior Witter was I bet you we all know who would come out more popular - it is sad and it is wrong because Junior Witter deserves the fight but no f*cker knows him and that is another reason why the fight won't happen - some will blame Witters promoter for that one!!!

boxing Tw*t wrote:People remember the great British showdowns and I really belive in years to come Hatton-Witter be remembered more by his fans that the Mayweather debacle.

So yes Spud the public, outside the Manchester area, ARE becoming bored with it and ARE losing their respect for him - and I for one think he will regret it some day and it will tarnish an otherwise great career.

I have to say your very last line is the one I agree with - Hatton will learn to regret not fighting Witter - and you have just touched on the very reason and the only reason left why there is a crumb of a chance the fight might still happen.

Hatton knows Witter can seriously damage his legacy and thats the simple reason he can,t take the very high risk of losing to him.
He can live with losing to the pound to pound best(twice if need be) but dosn,t want to be exposed by anybody else.
Mayweather schooled him and theres a good chance Witter will do the same.

chris_23 wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Hatton has become too sincere.

The Mr. Entertainment line is a joke.

He would earn loads for fighting Witter - loads.

Problem is, it brings risk without kudos in America.

They just want to stay on the PBF-DLH circuit long enough to bank another $25million.

You cant blame him, but just be honest. As he always tells us he is.

"I'm not fighting Junior because its a tricky, awkward risky fight with little to gain by way of comparison to walk forward brawlers like Lazacano - and I need to rebuild to make fights with PBF more plausible as PPV."

"After PBF and DLH, if I'm not too smashed up and Witter will go to 147 pounds, I'll fight him before I retire."

You have just hit the nail on the head - bingo!!!

Why fight Witter when you can shmoozle in USA an bank a few quid - he can fight Witter when he's banked his dollars...

A boxers life is a short one at the top - you can't blame a guy for going for the dollar sign..

If I could bank 25 million you could stand outside my house all day long calling me chicken and I'd be laughing my ass off thinking "yeah a rich one though.. "...

I would sooner be poor and respected than rich and called a coward. Hatton is already a very rich man and can afford to earn less for one fight to prove a point, that being who deserves to be called number one. The excuses show me and others he he is not confident beating Witter.

chris_23 wrote:Cheers guys... kept seeing the term and wasn't sure what it meant... I thought it mean't mad travelling fans with a propensity for violence... LOL

I'm not a Witter or Hatton fan really - I watch them both, cheer them both on and just observe..

Me thinks its all about the money - and if you are getting punched in the head for a living I think that gives you the right to pick your opponents on their value and how likely it is they mess your brains up..

If I were Hatton - I'd fight this guy in May, De LaHoya in Dec, rematch Mayweather then Witter & retire a fat happy man.... at 31

HitmanHatton is a NUT NUTHUGGER!

jackthehat wrote:DG. how do you think Witter would do against Mayweather?????? lol lol
you know full well mayweather would just play with him, probably not have to get out of 1st gear, id say mayweather went into 3rd gear vs hatton at least. u ppl cant compare Witter with Hatton yet, Hatton has faced a completely different level of oponent

PBF would have a harder time with Witter!

3rd gear to beat Hatton? I THINK NOT!

You can not stay in 1st gear against an unorthodox switch hotter with speed and good power and a good chin,


Wake up!


I would LOVE PBF to fight Witter - PBF UD12.

I've been a massive Witter fan for years and I've wanted this fight for years BUT no way Ricky Hatton takes this fight and endanger future paydays against Mayweather/Pacquaio/Khan. Hatton knows he would have a 50% or greater chance of losing and this would lose him those paydays. Maybe it will happen when Hatton has exhausted all other avenues

The fights just not going to happen, I hope Junior gets another big fight, maybe he can get a shot a Cotto who is being matched bravely and we can all get behind him. Cotto won't get a shot at Mayweather/Delahoya/Hatton in the next 12 months and hasn't got many interesting options at 147 so this could be a good match up Otherwise Witter will do well to get Torres, Malignaggi or a top lightweight in the ring

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:endanger future paydays

this is the one and only reason hatton wont fight witter

once he loses to witter the rollercoaster stops !

lock the thread - job done

sweetscience wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:endanger future paydays

this is the one and only reason hatton wont fight witter

once he loses to witter the rollercoaster stops !

lock the thread - job done

but it's not set in stone that he loses to witter is it?

that is what makes me laugh about him refusing to fight junior.

people make out that witter is some kind of superhuman.

you could put both hatton and witter in together against PBF and floyd would still win.

banjo wrote:

sweetscience wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:endanger future paydays

this is the one and only reason hatton wont fight witter

once he loses to witter the rollercoaster stops !

lock the thread - job done

but it's not set in stone that he loses to witter is it?

that is what makes me laugh about him refusing to fight junior.

people make out that witter is some kind of superhuman.

you could put both hatton and witter in together against PBF and floyd would still win.

And it would be the 1st time PBF won a fight by KO3 Hatton and UD12 Witter!

nickd wrote:Hatton should be looking to shut him up once and for all not pulling out more poxy excuses.

Ditto!

One thing’s for sure Witter will have to stay champion and keep winning to stand any chance of ever landing a Hatton fight.
A loss no matter how close or controversial would bury Witter for good.
For a Start - Hatton will be praying and I mean really praying that Witter loses to Bradley to get that "boil off his arse" for good.
Knowing Witters luck the unknown Timothy Bradley is probably going to be a really tasty operator, unlike Hatton Witter is not going to get any favours when it comes to tough mandatory defences now or in his future as WBC champion is he?

Punchy Joe wrote:One thing’s for sure Witter will have to stay champion and keep winning to stand any chance of ever landing a Hatton fight.
A loss no matter how close or controversial would bury Witter for good.
For a Start - Hatton will be praying and I mean really praying that Witter loses to Bradley to get that "boil off his arse" for good.
Knowing Witters luck the unknown Timothy Bradley is probably going to be a really tasty operator, unlike Hatton Witter is not going to get any favours when it comes to tough mandatory defences now or in his future as WBC champion is he?

He's fighting Bradley - not the most difficult mandatory ever known.

The problem with this is that hitman hatton is a nuthugger and DG occasionally makes a few nuthugging comments too!!!

banjo wrote:

sweetscience wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:endanger future paydays

this is the one and only reason hatton wont fight witter

once he loses to witter the rollercoaster stops !

lock the thread - job done

but it's not set in stone that he loses to witter is it?

that is what makes me laugh about him refusing to fight junior.

people make out that witter is some kind of superhuman.

you could put both hatton and witter in together against PBF and floyd would still win.

I'm not sure how you can beat 2 men by occasionally potshotting 1 shot every 20 seconds

DG. wrote:

Carlos-Wigan wrote:I don't see Hattons avoidance of Witter (for whatever reason) as tarnishing his career, history proves this - think of all the great fights that have never been made and it runs into its hundreds.

Hatton has just fought the best fighter in the world and thats where the yardstick stands - not against Witter but with Mayweather.

It's a shame for BRITISH BOXING if the fight doesn't get made but it isn't a fight the whole boxing world are clamouring for - domestic battles do not generate big money - even if the crowds came to watch Benn vs Eubank for example - the rest of the world knew that the best SMs were in the states.

Hatton is an astute guy and enough of a boxing historian to know that a Witter fight will not enhance his legacy in the long run or on a worldwide scale.

Carlos Carlos Carlos,

Hatton is aware that WE will be the main peile talking about him - the writers of today will chew him up once he retires, at the moment they are content will skating around the issue.


Do you think the rest of the world really knows or talks about Eubank Benn they way we do?

Eubank's fights are repeated pretty much every night in West Europe and Far East. Seriously!

STP wrote:

DG. wrote:

Carlos-Wigan wrote:I don't see Hattons avoidance of Witter (for whatever reason) as tarnishing his career, history proves this - think of all the great fights that have never been made and it runs into its hundreds.

Hatton has just fought the best fighter in the world and thats where the yardstick stands - not against Witter but with Mayweather.

It's a shame for BRITISH BOXING if the fight doesn't get made but it isn't a fight the whole boxing world are clamouring for - domestic battles do not generate big money - even if the crowds came to watch Benn vs Eubank for example - the rest of the world knew that the best SMs were in the states.

Hatton is an astute guy and enough of a boxing historian to know that a Witter fight will not enhance his legacy in the long run or on a worldwide scale.

Carlos Carlos Carlos,

Hatton is aware that WE will be the main peile talking about him - the writers of today will chew him up once he retires, at the moment they are content will skating around the issue.


Do you think the rest of the world really knows or talks about Eubank Benn they way we do?

Eubank's fights are repeated pretty much every night in West Europe and Far East. Seriously!

Unless its Benn - Watson - Rocchhhigggaannnniii and Thompson then I feel sorry for THEM!

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

banjo wrote:

sweetscience wrote: this is the one and only reason hatton wont fight witter

once he loses to witter the rollercoaster stops !

lock the thread - job done

but it's not set in stone that he loses to witter is it?

that is what makes me laugh about him refusing to fight junior.

people make out that witter is some kind of superhuman.

you could put both hatton and witter in together against PBF and floyd would still win.

I'm not sure how you can beat 2 men by occasionally potshotting 1 shot every 20 seconds

Not getting hit and knocking out the crazed drunk chav in the 3rd.

chris_23 wrote: Why fight Witter when you can shmoozle in USA an bank a few quid - he can fight Witter when he's banked his dollars...

A boxers life is a short one at the top - you can't blame a guy for going for the dollar sign..

If I could bank 25 million you could stand outside my house all day long calling me chicken and I'd be laughing my ass off thinking "yeah a rich one though.. "...

You'd make a cracking Boxing Promoter Chris........ but a shit British Boxing fan IMO. Hattons already earned about £30m in his career why is money still his sole objective in the sport, especially considering his humble 'Man of the People' lifestyle. Fight Junior and get some respect back


Spud, most of the casual fans still think Hatton's the bees knees, but IMO even they will start to turn (are starting to turn) when the truth about Hattons ducking comes to light on and around May 10th