sturm may be better than we give him credit for. maselino masoe hit sturm (not quite flush aparently) and sturm lost his memory of that round. most middles would have fallen. sturm won the contest.
he smashed the solid pittman.
sturm may be underated.
mundine at middleweight
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Geale will hammer mundine one day :P !!watch!
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Talent wise he is better than all of them mentioned, Having said that i dont think he has it upstairs to beat the best in the division but definently the talent and speed.adamheight wrote:u think mundine would beat abraham, pavlik and wright then? is this really what u r saying?ben k wrote:I hope Mundine does well at 160, He has the talent to clean up the middle weight division but will more than likely beat Sturm and then a bunch of deadbeats.
Mundine wont beat them but as he wont fight them. If Mundine actually took boxing seriously and prepared for fights with proper sparring etc he would be far better than he already is.
Mundine - Abraham Mundines speed and size advantage would see him to a win by UD. Ottke was better than Abraham and Mundine was boxing his ears off in the early rounds in only his 11th fight.
Wright-Mundine Wright isnt powerful enough and i think Mundine would box his way to a UD also.
Pavlik-Mundine. I think Pavlik Mundine could go 2 ways either Mundine wins by boring decision or he gets stopped. Pavlik isnt the most skilled guy but has heart and Mundine will be by far the slickest fighter he will have faced. Taylor stood and traded with Pavlik but Mundine wouldnt.
Also dont jump on me for this as im not a Mundine fan never have been and never will but you cant denie his ability and speed.
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ben k wrote:Talent wise he is better than all of them mentioned, Having said that i dont think he has it upstairs to beat the best in the division but definently the talent and speed.adamheight wrote:u think mundine would beat abraham, pavlik and wright then? is this really what u r saying?ben k wrote:I hope Mundine does well at 160, He has the talent to clean up the middle weight division but will more than likely beat Sturm and then a bunch of deadbeats.
Mundine wont beat them but as he wont fight them. If Mundine actually took boxing seriously and prepared for fights with proper sparring etc he would be far better than he already is.
Mundine - Abraham Mundines speed and size advantage would see him to a win by UD. Ottke was better than Abraham and Mundine was boxing his ears off in the early rounds in only his 11th fight.
Wright-Mundine Wright isnt powerful enough and i think Mundine would box his way to a UD also.
Pavlik-Mundine. I think Pavlik Mundine could go 2 ways either Mundine wins by boring decision or he gets stopped. Pavlik isnt the most skilled guy but has heart and Mundine will be by far the slickest fighter he will have faced. Taylor stood and traded with Pavlik but Mundine wouldnt.
Also dont jump on me for this as im not a Mundine fan never have been and never will but you cant denie his ability and speed.
sorry mate i cant ake u seriously...this is a man who got shut out by kessler (according to one judge) and got kayoed by ottke.
Re: mundine at middleweight
Don't forget Siaca!
But I think ben is saying if Mundine had a better head on his shoulders he might do better...
But I think ben is saying if Mundine had a better head on his shoulders he might do better...
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wont be geale! 
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u think mundine would beat abraham, pavlik and wright then? is this really what u r saying?[/quote]Talent wise he is better than all of them mentioned, Having said that i dont think he has it upstairs to beat the best in the division but definently the talent and speed.Mundine wont beat them but as he wont fight them. If Mundine actually took boxing seriously and prepared for fights with proper sparring etc he would be far better than he already is. Mundine - Abraham Mundines speed and size advantage would see him to a win by UD. Ottke was better than Abraham and Mundine was boxing his ears off in the early rounds in only his 11th fight.Wright-Mundine Wright isnt powerful enough and i think Mundine would box his way to a UD also.Pavlik-Mundine. I think Pavlik Mundine could go 2 ways either Mundine wins by boring decision or he gets stopped. Pavlik isnt the most skilled guy but has heart and Mundine will be by far the slickest fighter he will have faced. Taylor stood and traded with Pavlik but Mundine wouldnt.Also dont jump on me for this as im not a Mundine fan never have been and never will but you cant denie his ability and speed.[/quote]sorry mate i cant ake u seriously...this is a man who got shut out by kessler (according to one judge) and got kayoed by ottke.[/quote]
Im not going to argue as i think Mundine is a dickhead but to denie his natural talent is retarded.
Kessler no where near shut out Mundine you didnt watch it did you?Ottke was his 11th fight
And Mundine was boxing well early until he gassed out
Siaca is what i was refuring to earlier about not having it upstairs.
Fair enough if you hate Mundine but be serious for a minute and look hard at the cream of 160 there simply not that good.
Im not going to argue as i think Mundine is a dickhead but to denie his natural talent is retarded.
Kessler no where near shut out Mundine you didnt watch it did you?Ottke was his 11th fight
And Mundine was boxing well early until he gassed outSiaca is what i was refuring to earlier about not having it upstairs.
Fair enough if you hate Mundine but be serious for a minute and look hard at the cream of 160 there simply not that good.