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Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 06:08
by stujones
I'd like to know who these clueless presenters are now... I'm not sure if Glyn is referring to the guy who did the preview show for the Lockett specifically or just general the setanta presenters. Surely though, Dempsey now has some idea about the sport.
With regards to naming names on who I think could do a could job.... well, I don't know what he looks like and whether he'd have the "X factor" on screen - but I could listen to Bob Mee talking boxing all day.
Oops: I've just realised quite how homo-erotic that has sounded.
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 06:11
by Captain Hook
stujones wrote:I'd like to know who these clueless presenters are now... I'm not sure if Glyn is referring to the guy who did the preview show for the Lockett specifically or just general the setanta presenters. Surely though, Dempsey now has some idea about the sport.
With regards to naming names on who I think could do a could job.... well, I don't know what he looks like and whether he'd have the "X factor" on screen - but I could listen to Bob Mee talking boxing all day.
Oops: I've just realised quite how homo-erotic that has sounded.
Bob Mee is great.
With Holdsworth he's like a wise old man taking his over-energetic puppy for a walk.
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 06:27
by Glyn Leach
Captain Hook wrote:stujones wrote:I'd like to know who these clueless presenters are now... I'm not sure if Glyn is referring to the guy who did the preview show for the Lockett specifically or just general the setanta presenters. Surely though, Dempsey now has some idea about the sport.
I dunno who they are either - and I'm not sure they do. I mean the guy with the grey hair and the younger blond bloke who is better than grey hair but ...
Dempo's OK but he doesn't do the bog standard shows, he's a 'big gun' they roll out for the big events and only very occasionally
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 06:39
by Glyn Leach
Point by point ...
"I think you may be a little oversensitive Glyn. A very playground response."
Oversensitive, no, just irritated by the lack of understanding. Playground. Disagree, my arguments are sound.
"I just said I respected what you do, that doesn't constitute giving you special treatment does it? You're not a rock star 8)"
Why bring it up at all? Did I? What's it got to do with me disagreeing with you?
"And the Alan Bennett remark was flippant and light-hearted, if you don't see it like that then it only reinforces my comment about you being oversensitive."
Maybe.
"And what flaws in my argument?"
Read what I've written and absorb. I'm not going to write it again.
"I don't mind Steve Bunce but he goes on and on and on".....you disagree, you think he's fantastic and the UK's answer to Bert Sugar. Not a problem."
Did I say being the British Bert was good? You present it like it's something positive. I was referring to a delivery style and persona choice, I passed no opinion on whether it was good or bad, just that it works for both of them. And I didn't say Bunce is fantastic, either. Just that he makes a better job of that show than anyone I can think of — the two things aren't the same.
"End of story. I don't see what all the fuss is about, half of the posters have put worse comments than I did."
Definitely, you seem to be getting off on the attention from one so great as I — the tonnes of reflected glory might go to your head.
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 06:51
by Autobarn
Glad that we've got some insight into Setanta's cheap and cheerful presentation. I actually think the Sky shows from the 90s were better produced with the leering, ginger haired cockney and Gary Mason's "Where's my effing tie" episode.
Sky are so much slicker and more professional these days, but they don't provide the fights we want - certainly not ones that are both live, and international. Setanta seem to cut the corners, but by heck they bring the good fights, and the deals with Warren, Arum AND Haye are welcome.
If Bunce keeps this up any longer, getting all these close ups and monologues, he'll be in Hollywood next LOL.
Re the timing issue - I can't believe when the feed "went" during Barrera-Pac II that they cut back to the studio just as Buncey yelled out! Though I thought they caught a beautiful, unaware close up of Enzo Mac's face after Haye's post Mormeck KO interview. That was the best "unaware close up" since Burt Lancaster's dinner table scene in THE GYPSY MOTHS (a great, small town skydiving drama from the '70s, the widescreen camera catching the side of BL's face while he thought he wasn't being filmed)...You could just see Mac sulking as he muttered something that probably wasn't very nice.
It is often funny when you get hold of an old studio tape of this or that fight. When you can hear what the big name presenters are really like when they think no one - apart from their producer etc - can hear them.
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 06:57
by Glyn Leach
Gary someone, wasn't it? And he was mockney, not cockney. Went on to do golf and fishing on Sky. What was his bloody name though?
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 06:59
by Captain Hook
Glyn Leach wrote:Point by point ...
"I think you may be a little oversensitive Glyn. A very playground response."
Oversensitive, no, just irritated by the lack of understanding. Playground. Disagree, my arguments are sound.
"I just said I respected what you do, that doesn't constitute giving you special treatment does it? You're not a rock star 8)"
Why bring it up at all? Did I? What's it got to do with me disagreeing with you?
"And the Alan Bennett remark was flippant and light-hearted, if you don't see it like that then it only reinforces my comment about you being oversensitive."
Maybe.
"And what flaws in my argument?"
Read what I've written and absorb. I'm not going to write it again.
"I don't mind Steve Bunce but he goes on and on and on".....you disagree, you think he's fantastic and the UK's answer to Bert Sugar. Not a problem."
Did I say being the British Bert was good? You present it like it's something positive. I was referring to a delivery style and persona choice, I passed no opinion on whether it was good or bad, just that it works for both of them. And I didn't say Bunce is fantastic, either. Just that he makes a better job of that show than anyone I can think of — the two things aren't the same.
"End of story. I don't see what all the fuss is about, half of the posters have put worse comments than I did."
Definitely, you seem to be getting off on the attention from one so great as I — the tonnes of reflected glory might go to your head.
Bless.....do you put this much effort into BM? I'm impressed.
You're not going to write it again because it wasn't worth writing. There is no misunderstanding, you're entitled to your opinion, as am I.
If I want to mention your position as a boxing journalist I will. If you didn't want people to know who you are you'd have used an alias.
Have a lovely day Glyn, bye for now.
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 07:00
by Glyn Leach
Gary Gal or Gary Geezer - he was an OK bloke from what I remember, within the confines of mockney gezzerness
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 07:02
by Autobarn
Glyn Leach wrote:Gary someone, wasn't it? And he was mockney, not cockney. Went on to do golf and fishing on Sky. What was his bloody name though?
mockney, that is bad
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 07:04
by Glyn Leach
Captain Hook wrote:Bless.....do you put this much effort into BM? I'm impressed.
You're not going to write it again because it wasn't worth writing. There is no misunderstanding, you're entitled to your opinion, as am I.
If I want to mention your position as a boxing journalist I will. If you didn't want people to know who you are you'd have used an alias.
Have a lovely day Glyn, bye for now.
No effort required here doll x
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 07:05
by Captain Hook
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cheeky twat
That guy had a fringe and an oversized suit didn't he..Gary....? Remember him from Benn v Eubank....
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 07:13
by Glyn Leach
Captain Hook wrote:![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
cheeky twat
That guy had a fringe and an oversized suit didn't he..Gary....? Remember him from Benn v Eubank....
Lol
And a conspiratorial manner, like he was letting you in on a secret. 'On tonight's show (wink) we've got (looks over shoulder to check no one is listening) ...
Gary NORMAN!!!
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 07:39
by Captain Hook
That's the fella......been bugging me for half an hour.
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 07:40
by Coco
What happened to Gary, I liked him
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 07:41
by Captain Hook
I can picture him now, he always lent forward like there was only going to be you and him watching:
And it was always:
"That is the best fight I've ever, ever seen"
Followed by:
McGuigan: "I hate to say I told you so, but I was right"
McDonnell: "It was a war"
Macauley:Bingo, all the way to the top..."
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Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 08:00
by chinny
I liked Gary Norman too. He used to produce the Ringside show on sky as well as present it.
He wasn't the slickest but he clearly loved the sport.
I guess when sky invested ££££ on bringing in Warren/Naz they figured they better up the quality of production/presentation.
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 08:04
by Autobarn
That Ringside show was good. It had a certain charm to it. When I was at school, a mate of mine used to tape me the boxing around the mid 90s. I wish Sky showed as much boxing now as they did then.
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 08:20
by DG.
Glyn Leach wrote:Point by point ...
"I think you may be a little oversensitive Glyn. A very playground response."
Oversensitive, no, just irritated by the lack of understanding. Playground. Disagree, my arguments are sound.
"I just said I respected what you do, that doesn't constitute giving you special treatment does it? You're not a rock star 8)"
Why bring it up at all? Did I? What's it got to do with me disagreeing with you?
"And the Alan Bennett remark was flippant and light-hearted, if you don't see it like that then it only reinforces my comment about you being oversensitive."
Maybe.
"And what flaws in my argument?"
Read what I've written and absorb. I'm not going to write it again.
"I don't mind Steve Bunce but he goes on and on and on".....you disagree, you think he's fantastic and the UK's answer to Bert Sugar. Not a problem."
Did I say being the British Bert was good? You present it like it's something positive. I was referring to a delivery style and persona choice, I passed no opinion on whether it was good or bad, just that it works for both of them. And I didn't say Bunce is fantastic, either. Just that he makes a better job of that show than anyone I can think of — the two things aren't the same.
"End of story. I don't see what all the fuss is about, half of the posters have put worse comments than I did."
Definitely, you seem to be getting off on the attention from one so great as I — the tonnes of reflected glory might go to your head.
I agree with everything Glyn Leach says ( in exchange for a years free subscription!).
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Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 08:26
by Glyn Leach
DG. wrote:I agree with everything Glyn Leach says ( in exchange for a years free subscription!).
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Done! Oh sorry, you're from South London and it might damage my profile to have mockneys agreeing with me
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 08:31
by Glyn Leach
chinny wrote:I liked Gary Norman too. He used to produce the Ringside show on sky as well as present it.
He wasn't the slickest but he clearly loved the sport.
I guess when sky invested ££££ on bringing in Warren/Naz they figured they better up the quality of production/presentation.
You could probably draw parallels between Sky then and Setanta now, down to Norman and Bunce. Norman definitely earned his corn even if he could be a little over the top with his style, similar to Bunce now. Setanta definitely runs on tight budget at the moment and will continue to do so until it bags the amount of subscribers it needs, which was probably the case with Sky at first and the reason why Norman was a bit of a one man band.
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 08:44
by Deserter
I must admit I don't understand why some people have got a downer on Steve Bunce. He's a passionate advocate of the sport we love and while he can undoubtedly rattle on a bit I love the fact he so clearly cares about boxing and champions its cause at every given opportunity. OK, he's a 'character', so I can understand that he may rub some people up the wrong way, but give me that over some bland presenter who clearly doesn't have any genuine interest in boxing any day of the week.
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 08:48
by Glyn Leach
Nicky Piper - the AntiBunce
Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 08:49
by Captain Hook
I knew you had a problem with the Welsh
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Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 08:51
by DG.
Glyn Leach wrote:DG. wrote:I agree with everything Glyn Leach says ( in exchange for a years free subscription!).
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Done! Oh sorry, you're from South London and it might damage my profile to have mockneys agreeing with me
Mock what?
I am of West Indian stock, no Mockneys here!
While you are on here skiving.
A quick question - I received a reminder about my subscription coming to an end, but I can not remember if it said I have 1 MORE issue to come or if it was the last one?
Do you receive 1 more issue after the reminder or does the reminder say THIS IS YOUR LAST ONE?
Nice one, guvnor - any old iron - applea and pears - me old chinnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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Re: Buncey's monologue on Pav-Lockett preview
Posted: 13 Jun 2008, 08:52
by Wales
Deserter wrote:some bland presenter who clearly doesn't have any genuine interest in boxing any day of the week.
Dave Clarke!
"And we all remmber this one...."
You dont you smug get, when that fight ook place you'd just failed the audition to play thomas the tanks engines face.