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Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 08:15
by Wrists
Max my boy - whilst Calzaghe's win over Lacy was indeed great (and under rated by many on here) it is not as great as Hatton's over Tsyzu.
Tsyzu - all time great, at the time pfp top 3 just spanked Judah.
Lacy - good fighter, dangerous puncher.
Max you do dig yourself into a hole sometimes matey
Although some of the criticism of you is a bit harsh!!
:)
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 08:23
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Wrists wrote:Max my boy - whilst Calzaghe's win over Lacy was indeed great (and under rated by many on here) it is not as great as Hatton's over Tsyzu.
Tsyzu - all time great, at the time pfp top 3 just spanked Judah.
Lacy - good fighter, dangerous puncher.
Max you do dig yourself into a hole sometimes matey
Although some of the criticism of you is a bit harsh!!
:)
To be fair Lacy was actually considered rightly or wrongly P4P top10 at the time by many. Lacy was prime, Tyszu was a 3-4 round fighter. Its swings and roundabouts. How about comparing the BHOPS win to the Tyszu win though. BHOPs fresh (I use the term loosely) off beating Tarver, Wright and going 50-50 with Taylor. Tyszu fresh off beating Mitchell. BHOPs threw 10 punches a round, Tyszu could only fight for 5 rounds
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 08:29
by Autobarn
I think Lacy was considered as a guy that would be in the p4p top ten when he beat Calzaghe.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 09:45
by fatboy2008
This possible fight with Maskeev is a good one, what do people expect. A decent fight in the onward progression, I see absolutely no harm in taking this fight.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 10:27
by josh fg
fatboy2008 wrote:This possible fight with Maskeev is a good one, what do people expect. A decent fight in the onward progression, I see absolutely no harm in taking this fight.
I think he should be commended for taking the fight, he could have very well started easily with a light punching HW who has been around the block a bit but had no decent wins at top level but he has gone straight into a fight against a live opponent.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 15:05
by nickd
Max Molyneux wrote:
You just prove me right every time.

I'm not sure if you're really that dumb or really obnoxious?
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 11:21
by Max Molyneux
http://www.BS.com/?m=show&id=14901
Good job Oleg's fighting Hawkins Instead, hopefully Haye gets a better opponent.
I'm not sure if you're really that dumb or really obnoxious?
I'm not wether most you are uptight and need drugs for your high blood pressure when reading my post.
You can;t talk shit after being so duped about things like Hatton's stuff like the rest of them.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 11:27
by Max Molyneux
teddy007 wrote:Max Molyneux wrote:http://www.BS.com/?m=show&id=14901
Good job Oleg's fighting Hawkins Instead, hopefully Haye gets a better opponent.
I'm not sure if you're really that dumb or really obnoxious?
I'm not wether most you are uptight and need drugs for your high blood pressure when reading my post.
You can;t talk shit after being so duped about things like Hatton's stuff like the rest of them.
So says the boxing historian of the last 3yrs lol
I don't claim to be anything you retard, I don't mind people disagreeing with what I say but you guys blatantly resort to unneeded Insults.
All I do Is state why I think Maskaev would be a bad match up and you guys have to get so sensitive.

Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 12:13
by observer1
I gave up with Max long long ago.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 12:30
by twenty six
Are Max and Horse the same person ?
They seem to display the same level of expertise.
I still consider myself rather naive on boxing - and I've been watching it live for 30 years all over the place.
3 years in, and suddenly an authority ? I dont think so.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 12:36
by lefthook82
One of my fave fights last year was Andrew Golota v Mike Mollo
Before you laugh, yes I know Mike Mollo is garbage and that Golota is slow as hell and all that
But he didn't half show a bit of class with the way he threw some of those shots. He hit Mike Mollo with some nice combos and showed me there was still abit of life in him yet.
Probably too old and slow to be a viable opponent for David Haye but he is just a name to be thrown in
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 12:40
by Autobarn
So was there ever that much reason to think that haye-Maskaev was happening?
I kept asking, have the fighters signed anything. Obviously they didn't. The whole thing could have been made up. We've had threads that have gone on and on before, that were based on incorrect info ("Jamie Moore Targets Pavlik At Middleweight!") and this was probably another one.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 12:47
by josh fg
Autobarn wrote:So was there ever that much reason to think that haye-Maskaev was happening?
I kept asking, have the fighters signed anything. Obviously they didn't. The whole thing could have been made up. We've had threads that have gone on and on before, that were based on incorrect info ("Jamie Moore Targets Pavlik At Middleweight!") and this was probably another one.
I think its when these things turn up on the boxrec sceduals it gives them some legs and it fits as a logical opponent at this stage of his carrer, even though it may not be so now its still a bloody good idea.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 15:09
by Bard of Boxrec
so it was never maskaev for haye then. whatever.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 07:34
by overhand_right
Maskaev-- so chinny that full-bloodied wallops from hitters Rahman & Peter in 2 of his last 3 fights couldn't knock him off his feet.
Huge strong guy coming to win by kayo, ex-wbc champ and some are complaining. Unfrickinbelievable!
Looks like the fight was never meant to be, but Maskaev is credible. Who are Danny and Audley fighting? Cahhhhmooooon.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 09:26
by Horse
twenty six wrote:Are Max and Horse the same person ?
They seem to display the same level of expertise.
I still consider myself rather naive on boxing - and I've been watching it live for 30 years all over the place.
3 years in, and suddenly an authority ? I dont think so.
We disagree about Ryan Rhodes, so you take any opportunity you can to slag me off. You ought to grow up, pal.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 13 Jul 2008, 05:41
by twenty six
I aint got enough time, Horse.
I'm the wrong side of 50.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 13 Jul 2008, 06:39
by Max Molyneux
twenty six wrote:Are Max and Horse the same person ?
They seem to display the same level of expertise.
I still consider myself rather naive on boxing - and I've been watching it live for 30 years all over the place.
3 years in, and suddenly an authority ? I dont think so.
4 years actually and I never think I'm an authority or say It either, you guys twist things around and make up things.
What the hell Is wrong with you guys? Maskaev would of been a poor choice and I say why and you guys respond like your panties are In a twist.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 13 Jul 2008, 07:04
by fatboy2008
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 13 Jul 2008, 07:37
by twenty six
Nobjockey.
Presumably you have some tips for Rafael Benitez on how to win the Premiership if you've been watching footie for 4 years as well.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 13 Jul 2008, 17:18
by josh fg
Rawling eluded to Maskaev being the likely next opponent for Haye in the guardian on saturday but that may have come from boxrec sceduals.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 04:41
by bennie
Faded heavyweight names Hasim Rahman and James Toney meet in an overdue but frankly yawn-inducing rematch on Wednesday in California, scheduled for 12.
These two met in Atlantic City in March 2006 and battled to a quickly forgettable 12-round draw, with many feeling Rahman's more consistent work, in contrast to Toney's flashier bursts, gave him the edge. At stake was Rahman's WBC title but the Baltimore man lost it a fight later to Oleg Maskaev on a last-round stoppage and has struggled to impress since, although he's won four out of four. Last time out in November he forced a ponderous 10-round stoppage of the gutsy but feather-fisted Zuri Lawrence, who pushed him harder than anyone could have anticipated beforehand and was actually ahead on one of the cards at the stoppage.
Not to be outdone, Toney also looked awful in his last outing in May last year when he barely outscored New York clubfighter Danny Batchelder on a 10-round split decision. It was only his third appearance since the Rahman draw - and his only win. He lost twice to Samuel Peter, of course. Toney's cause going into this is hardly helped by a six month ban he copped for steroid abuse (again) after Batchelder.
He's not fought in the last 14 months.
You know, Toney hits 40 next month and such inactivity will obviously hinder a man whose conditioning never inspired anyone even at his best. Rahman is five years younger and looks to have more left, although he is clearly past his best himself.
Expect the man once heralded as "The Rock" to get home in an uninspiring, rather money-grabbing affair.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 04:48
by Autobarn
Who was Holyfield's heavyweight debut? Wasn't it a badly faded Pinklon Thomas who was clubbed mercilessly around the ring for 5 or 6 rounds.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 05:29
by stujones
Autobarn wrote:Who was Holyfield's heavyweight debut? Wasn't it a badly faded Pinklon Thomas who was clubbed mercilessly around the ring for 5 or 6 rounds.
It was James Quick Tillis I think.
But Thomas BADLY faded? Prior to his fight before he was considered the #2 Heavyweight and one of only two fighters that some US Journo's gave a hope of beating Tyson.
He was only 30.
Re: Maskeev for Haye
Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 05:33
by Max Molyneux
Yet you can't say what points are bullshit In my sentences?
Nobjockey.
Presumably you have some tips for Rafael Benitez on how to win the Premiership if you've been watching footie for 4 years as well.
I think I will post like I'm an expert to spite you Insecure mongs.
Unlucky for you I hate football.