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granberry wrote:Lester Bromberg called the decision in the Young-Ali fight "A travesty of a decision."

Bromberg scored the fight 11 rounds for Young, and 4 for Ali.

But what does Lester Bromberg know about boxing.

LOL

Is that the old FARTwho said Liston would drop Ali in one?


LOL

Dear Mod

Can you forbid granberry from further mischief in this thread?

collins(TheOne) demands that all grovel for Ali.

When they step outside the grounds of their Church of The Religion of Ali they will find that is not the case.

That disturbs them mightily.

LOL

granberry wrote:collins(TheOne) demands that all grovel for Ali.

When they step outside the grounds of their Church of The Religion of Ali they will find that is not the case.

That disturbs them mightily.

LOL

Au contraire. I was asking the mod to put an end to your intellectually vacuous and emotionally retarded repartee...

bump....I'll merge them eventually

BoxBuzz wrote:bump....I'll merge them eventually

Try not to screw it up this time, Buzz.

You know how granberry hates it when you mess with his posts.

And like Drake, he's not dead, only sleeping.

Gran is in his hammock till the great Armadas come,
(Capten, art tha sleepin' there below?)
Slung atween the round shot, listenin' for the drum,
An' dreamin arl the time o' Plymouth Hoe.
Call him on the deep sea, call him up the Sound,
Call him when ye sail to meet the foe;
Where the old trade's plyin' an' the old flag flyin'
They shall find him ware an' wakin', as they found him long ago!

Well, this topic seems to be an area where I disagree with Granberry.

He seems to think Jimmy Young would have an excellent chance against Smokin' Joe.

I think prime Frazier would hunt down and ultimately destroy Jimmy Young.

Cuteness only goes so far when your liver is being pulled out.

Agree with the earlier observation that Frazier is the worst possible matchup of all '70s heavies for Young.

Joe brought considerably more unrelenting pressure to the affair than Shavers, Foreman and the like.

Robinson wrote:This makes for a good match up prime for prime.
I think Frazier wears into Young, though hard to catch
for a head hunter, Frazier's body assaults takes away
Young's movement and guile.

I do not see Frazier stopping Young, but I do see good
exchanges and a pretty competitive match. Frazier wins
a good decision.

Thank you for the rational post.

Granberry made a lot of good points. He is a most persipacious fellow.

The Great John L wrote:

Robinson wrote:This makes for a good match up prime for prime.
I think Frazier wears into Young, though hard to catch
for a head hunter, Frazier's body assaults takes away
Young's movement and guile.

I do not see Frazier stopping Young, but I do see good
exchanges and a pretty competitive match. Frazier wins
a good decision.

Thank you for the rational post.

So are you saying it is irrational to believe that Frazier breaks Young down and stops him?

I reluctantly have to agree with Granberry because of the knowledge he gained by being an actual combatant in the squared circle.

FanOfTheGranMan wrote:Granberry made a lot of good points. He is a most persipacious fellow.

Is this the first time the word "persipacious" has ever been used on boxrec.com?

I bet yes.

yancey wrote:

The Great John L wrote:

Robinson wrote:This makes for a good match up prime for prime.
I think Frazier wears into Young, though hard to catch
for a head hunter, Frazier's body assaults takes away
Young's movement and guile.

I do not see Frazier stopping Young, but I do see good
exchanges and a pretty competitive match. Frazier wins
a good decision.

Thank you for the rational post.

So are you saying it is irrational to believe that Frazier breaks Young down and stops him?

No, but the previous discussion almost seemed like that was the only conclusion, and there just isn't enough evidence in their careers to support this as being anything other than a very competitive fight. Late stoppage by Frazier seems reasonable, but so does a close decision. Young at his best was very hard to hit let alone break down.

Granberry has weighed in on this subject. Granberry brings first hand knowledge to this topic. We should submit to his wisdom and foresight.

What does "foresight" have to do a discussion of a fight that would have happened 30+ years ago?

Prime Frazier beats prime Young. Joe puts too much pressure on him and breaks him down. Young did train at Fraziers gym and they may have sparred. I never saw it during the time I trained there. I did watch Young train for 3 months for Forman. He had a big 280 lb sparring partner all the time so he could practice the rope a dope like Ali used on Foreman.

yancey wrote:

FanOfTheGranMan wrote:Granberry made a lot of good points. He is a most persipacious fellow.

Is this the first time the word "persipacious" has ever been used on boxrec.com?

I bet yes.

and yet this particular participant was remarkably lacking in his perspicacious behavior, in as much as he could not even spell it correctly.

If one (like this "FanOfThGranMan") should decide to engage in such rare and valuable terminology...PLEASE look up it's spelling and it's meaning before making an attempt to utilize. Thus saving yourself needless painful and enduring embarrassment.

I'm afraid to hear what G.I. is going to say about this spelling calamity.

BoxBuzz wrote:

yancey wrote:

FanOfTheGranMan wrote:Granberry made a lot of good points. He is a most persipacious fellow.

Is this the first time the word "persipacious" has ever been used on boxrec.com?

I bet yes.

and yet this particular participant was remarkably lacking in his perspicacious behavior, in as much as he could not even spell it correctly.

If one (like this "FanOfThGranMan") should decide to engage in such rare and valuable terminology...PLEASE look up it's spelling and it's meaning before making an attempt to utilize. Thus saving yourself needless painful and enduring embarrassment.

I'm afraid to hear what G.I. is going to say about this spelling calamity.

I'm busy shaking my head over the mistakes in your post, Buzz. Not that I expect too much from someone unable to make the childhood distinction between, 'your,' &, 'you're.'*

*To be fair, I'd wager more adults than not also fail to make this most basic distinction.

Actually I'm on the cutting edge of evolving that particular rule, and willfully disregarding the additional use of the ' when "you are" can safely be assumed.

Were you struggling to decide what I meant? If so I can go primal and revert back to old ways for the dinosaurs in our midst.

It's my contribution to the green movement.

More double-talk & gibberish in the face of anything even vaguely reminiscent of criticism...how surprising

I look forward to your next post, I never know what's coming...whether it be musical stylings of the 60's, the space-time continuum & how quantam physics apply to the right hand of Bert Cooper, or anythign in-between --- only thing we can be sure of is it will be a tangent-riddled pile of steaming irrelevance, as per usual programming.

Only to offer contrast to your tightly focused, well researched, spot on color commentary AND dependable factual statistics.

It's all about honoring diversity and a rainbow of variety in both style and substance, right here at BoxRec BOTP.

Come to think of it, I don't want to miss this opportunity to Thank you for your loyalty and engaged availability when it comes to all things pugilistic.

BoxBuzz wrote:Only to offer contrast to your tightly focused, well researched, spot on color commentary AND dependable factual statistics.

It's all about honoring diversity and a rainbow of variety in both style and substance, right here at BoxRec BOTP.

Come to think of it, I don't want to miss this opportunity to Thank you for your loyalty and engaged availability when it comes to all things pugilistic.

It is quite touching to see the sincere respect and, dare I say, brotherly love that flows between GI and BB.

Wow, this thread was a turd bomb.

yancey wrote: It is quite touching to see the sincere respect and, dare I say, brotherly love that flows between GI and BB.

GI is a woman, right?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Wow, this thread was a turd bomb.

Only because you have yet to reveal the definitive answer to the query.