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Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:13
by chinny
Good on Dolan for putting himself in the mix like this so early. I'll watch him again for sure. He doesn't lose anything being involved in fights like this.

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:14
by whatashambles
Was a 116-109 scorecard possible? Two knockdowns in one round and another knockdown in another round would mean a 10-7 round and a 10-8 round, therefore he would have lost 5 points straight away?

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:15
by black panther
Bloody Hell how many knockdowns in that fight altogether? Thanks for the rbr fellas - fight sounded a cracker!

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:18
by n1ebf
whatashambles wrote:Was a 116-109 scorecard possible? Two knockdowns in one round and another knockdown in another round would mean a 10-7 round and a 10-8 round, therefore he would have lost 5 points straight away?
It's all possible.........I only saw my first 5 minute 10 second round last week in the Urango fight. :roll:

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:19
by Old bones Ian
Pongsaklek wrote:116-109 to the winner in a fight he gets knocked down in two different rounds and a total of three times is very creative scoring. Dolan won at least four rounds imho. :lol: :lol:
Couple of the KD's were debatable, so maybe the judges didn't score them

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:23
by Horse
Old bones Ian wrote:
Pongsaklek wrote:116-109 to the winner in a fight he gets knocked down in two different rounds and a total of three times is very creative scoring. Dolan won at least four rounds imho. :lol: :lol:
Couple of the KD's were debatable, so maybe the judges didn't score them
How can they not score them?

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:29
by Andrey
I wish, I saw this fight. Hopefully it will be on Yourtube.

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:30
by Asterix
Dioufy wrote:
Asterix wrote:Does anyone know anything about Enad Licina?
I have only seen him once, on the Huck Vs Battelo undercard. He looked okay, although he did get put over, but he did recover quite quickly and stopped his man later in the fight with some great shots. I will keep my eye out for him in future fights.
Thanks. I saw the Huck vs Battelo fight but must have missed Licina.

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:32
by Old bones Ian
Horse wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:
Pongsaklek wrote:116-109 to the winner in a fight he gets knocked down in two different rounds and a total of three times is very creative scoring. Dolan won at least four rounds imho. :lol: :lol:
Couple of the KD's were debatable, so maybe the judges didn't score them
How can they not score them?
Well i don't know the rules exactly, but i thought the judges are lead by the ref, but do not always have to agree, i could be wrong

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:34
by steve689
I didn't see the fight but I must confess that given Norton-Steeds I expected this would be a stinker and gave it a wide berth. However, it turned out to be one of the best rbr's we have read here :TU:

Whoever mentioned Enad Licina...seen him 3 or 4 times now and he has nice skills, good basic boxer but seems fragile and I reckon he would fold like an envelope if you "stuck it up him" so to speak! Not convinced he's top level material and Sauerland will match him carefully.

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:36
by Asterix
steve689 wrote:I didn't see the fight but I must confess that given Norton-Steeds I expected this would be a stinker and gave it a wide berth. However, it turned out to be one of the best rbr's we have read here :TU:

Whoever mentioned Enad Licina...seen him 3 or 4 times now and he has nice skills, good basic boxer but seems fragile and I reckon he would fold like an envelope if you "stuck it up him" so to speak! Not convinced he's top level material and Sauerland will match him carefully.
It was a good fight. I'm more of a fan of higher level boxing, but it was really good.

Thanks for the info on Licina. He's got a nice rating for someone to take then.

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:38
by Dioufy
Sexy fight - I had it 112/111, which is a bizarre score. And didn't that second KD in the 4th come from a head, not a punch?

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:40
by Asterix
Dioufy wrote:Sexy fight - I had it 112/111, which is a bizarre score. And didn't that second KD in the 4th come from a head, not a punch?
It was a punch. The angle from the corner made it look like a head, but another angle showed Norton's chin was hit right on the tip.

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:41
by Horse
Dioufy wrote:And didn't that second KD in the 4th come from a head, not a punch?
I thought so.

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:42
by Dioufy
I have seen the angles Sky have produced and I'm certain a punch didn't land - if it did then I apoligise.

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:48
by Hagler2002
Dolan was very small in there tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if he could make SM

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:50
by Asterix
Hagler2002 wrote:Dolan was very small in there tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if he could make SM
It's funny, he looked small at Heavyweight but looks just as small at Cruiser. Maybe Light Heavy should be his next target.

In all seriousness though, Dolan looked quite slow tonight and showed very, very little head movement. Big step backwards from Prizefighter, imo. :(

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:51
by Hagler2002
Asterix wrote:
Hagler2002 wrote:I was going to have a decent size bet on Dolan @ 5/4 until I seen this thread :(

Norton it is then.
I think Dolan will win.
Mr Bilton could stop a moving train, I'm glad I seen this thread before getting involved :TU:

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:52
by Asterix
Hagler2002 wrote:
Asterix wrote:
Hagler2002 wrote:I was going to have a decent size bet on Dolan @ 5/4 until I seen this thread :(

Norton it is then.
I think Dolan will win.
Mr Bilton could stop a moving train, I'm glad I seen this thread before getting involved :TU:
Now you see why I don't bet real money. :lol:

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:58
by Hagler2002
Old bones Ian wrote:Both boxers look up for this, Norton looks in great shape.

I've left work at 9.45, and it was all going a bit pete tong there, had to break up a cat fight, and the local dope dealer was trying to get in the project.
Do you work at the 'Jockey'

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 20:04
by Old bones Ian
Hagler2002 wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:Both boxers look up for this, Norton looks in great shape.

I've left work at 9.45, and it was all going a bit pete tong there, had to break up a cat fight, and the local dope dealer was trying to get in the project.
Do you work at the 'Jockey'
No mate :lol:
I do a part time job as a youth project worker, i'm no doorman and if you saw me you'd know why, i'm not exactly imtimidating.
But i know when to get involved, and by god those girls can pull hair, :o

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 20:04
by Hagler2002
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Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 20:05
by Hagler2002
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Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 20:14
by forcefraser
Good fight. The second knockown on Norton was a peach. His powers of recovery are immense.

I agree that Norton edged it, but no way was it 116-109, that judge must have been watching a different fight.

Young Mutley looked in decent shape as well

Re: Dolan all set

Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 21:57
by whicker
whatashambles wrote:Was a 116-109 scorecard possible? Two knockdowns in one round and another knockdown in another round would mean a 10-7 round and a 10-8 round, therefore he would have lost 5 points straight away?


10-7 is only given when a fighter clearly totally dominates the oppoent and puts him down several times, eg Enzo Maccarinellis first round V Matthew Ellis.

A judge does not actually HAVE to give 10-8 or 10-7, if for example he feels that fighter knocked down slipped, or simply they were incidental/flash knockdowns etc.

If the guy knocked down clearly wins the round, then I think it is scored 10-9 (against him) , but I'm not 100% sure of this.

So a score of 116 could suggest that the ref felt he lost those rounds as 10-8s, but either won or drew every other one, or that he actually won a round in which he was knocked down.