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J wrote:Cos weigth hopping encourages cherry picking and not clearing out divsions and fighting the best fighters at their best weights thats why.

Hatton moved up to fight PBF remember?

Now pac is moving down....your argument doesnt make sense mate.

Terence wrote:P4P is nonsense. So is weight hopping your way to that title. Sugar Ray Leonard started it, and he was gifted his SMW title to help make up the numbers. Oscar De La Hoya won more titles than Hagler, at more weights, but was he consistently the #1 in his division? No. Judging P4P claims requires lateral thought, that is why some people will never get it.

Chambers2 wrote:

J wrote:Cos weigth hopping encourages cherry picking and not clearing out divsions and fighting the best fighters at their best weights thats why.

Hatton moved up to fight PBF remember?

Now pac is moving down....your argument doesnt make sense mate.

Obviously the quality of the opponents the fighter's faced has to be taken into consideration as well.

Pac is a natural superbantam who is fighting at LightWelter, surely that has to be taken into consideration.

If Pacman stopped at superbantam and featherweight and ruled the division for 6 years he'd be higher in the P4P rankings than if he'd have moved through the weights, surely that can't be right

J wrote:Asterix,
yeah but do we know for sure pac can make lightwieght now perhaps light welter is his best weight now.................who knows outside the pac camp?

J wrote: Chambers are you being deliberatly daft here mate?

he isnt anatural super bantam / feather or anything else anymore he moved up to lightweight cos he couldnt make superfeather. If anything Id say pac would operate at lightweight these days. So the move to l welter isnt exactly that much of an issue is it.

its like saying oscar is a super feather when now he is a natural light middle (not a wleter that was proved vs pac)....its no different.

Chambers2 wrote:I don't think I'm being daft at all

Did Pacman move up in weight because he couldn't make the feather or superfeatherweight limits or is it because he'd fought and beat the best in the division (MAB, Morales, Larios, JMM) and ran out of challenges. It's the latter IMO

Chambers2 wrote:

J wrote: Chambers are you being deliberatly daft here mate?

he isnt anatural super bantam / feather or anything else anymore he moved up to lightweight cos he couldnt make superfeather. If anything Id say pac would operate at lightweight these days. So the move to l welter isnt exactly that much of an issue is it.

its like saying oscar is a super feather when now he is a natural light middle (not a wleter that was proved vs pac)....its no different.

I don't think I'm being daft at all

Did Pacman move up in weight because he couldn't make the feather or superfeatherweight limits or is it because he'd fought and beat the best in the division (MAB, Morales, Larios, JMM) and ran out of challenges. It's the latter IMO

Asterix wrote:

Chambers2 wrote:I don't think I'm being daft at all

Did Pacman move up in weight because he couldn't make the feather or superfeatherweight limits or is it because he'd fought and beat the best in the division (MAB, Morales, Larios, JMM) and ran out of challenges. It's the latter IMO

Sorry Chambers, he moved up because of weight issues.

J wrote:

Chambers2 wrote:

J wrote: Chambers are you being deliberatly daft here mate?

he isnt anatural super bantam / feather or anything else anymore he moved up to lightweight cos he couldnt make superfeather. If anything Id say pac would operate at lightweight these days. So the move to l welter isnt exactly that much of an issue is it.

its like saying oscar is a super feather when now he is a natural light middle (not a wleter that was proved vs pac)....its no different.

I don't think I'm being daft at all

Did Pacman move up in weight because he couldn't make the feather or superfeatherweight limits or is it because he'd fought and beat the best in the division (MAB, Morales, Larios, JMM) and ran out of challenges. It's the latter IMO

pac cant make s/feather anymore Roach has more than said that. No offence mate ill take his word over yours.

Chambers2 wrote:

J wrote:[
I don't think I'm being daft at all

Did Pacman move up in weight because he couldn't make the feather or superfeatherweight limits or is it because he'd fought and beat the best in the division (MAB, Morales, Larios, JMM) and ran out of challenges. It's the latter IMO

pac cant make s/feather anymore Roach has more than said that. No offence mate ill take his word over yours.

trig wrote:ive posted a thread like this on another forum.

hattons insulting peoples boxing intelligence,the one's that understand that is.
manny is going through 4 weights!!has beaten 2 prime mexican legends thats p4p status,hatton is another challenge a bigger man the best at his weight the fm of the 10 stoners theres know shame if he loses to hatton.
hatton boxed up at welter was lucky against collazo,found out by mw who wasnt considerd a dangerous puncher at 10-7 hatton trying to surpass other brits by fighting a midget is taking the pee its another feat 4 manny when he takes hattons scalp.4 hatton to be considerd p4p he'd haft to beat the best of the welters(no chance)

J wrote:Cos weigth hopping encourages cherry picking and not clearing out divsions and fighting the best fighters at their best weights thats why.

Hatton moved up to fight PBF remember?

Now pac is moving down....your argument doesnt make sense mate.

J wrote:

DG GROW UP YOU FOOL B4 I OWN YOUR ASS AGAIN..

Chambers2 wrote:



You're (unusually) snappy today J, having a bad un?

trig wrote:your right hatton is a naturall welter,its amazing how he boils down.ive noticed that he has become to tire in fights now i know he never in the malinaggi fight but he never had nothing infront of him.
hatton does struggle with southpaws & speed & i believe manny has a better engine & could cut hatton to bits,but i do fancy hatton to win the fight which should live up to the hype im sure.

trig wrote:your right hatton is a naturall welter,its amazing how he boils down.ive noticed that he has become to tire in fights now i know he never in the malinaggi fight but he never had nothing infront of him.
hatton does struggle with southpaws & speed & i believe manny has a better engine & could cut hatton to bits,but i do fancy hatton to win the fight which should live up to the hype im sure.

J wrote:what fight was pacs last at?

im not asking his normal fighting weight im asking a straight questions so answer the question idiot?

perhops if you joined in the context of the conversation you would understand though i doubt someone as challenged as yourself can hold your attention for longer than two seconds so this maybe doubtful.